Hoffburger 209 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I think these two lists might be decently competitive for Republic. I think another option is some form of 4 Arcs or 3 Arcs and a Jedi. Ahsoka is really good with her psuedo-free coordinate that she can give to herself, but I'm not sure if she's worth the price at PS3. Saesee is kinda bonkers if anything is < PS4 and 7Bs seem to me to be the way to go if you're gonna take a Jedi. Sense on Saesee can do really crazy things with his ability. Wolffe seems to me to be the clear best Arc pilot. Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 80 •Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (18) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 51 •“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Saesee Tiin - 68 •Saesee Tiin - Prophetic Pilot (44) R4 Astromech (2) Sense (6) Delta-7B (16) Total: 199/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder Or Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Luminara Unduli - 60 •Luminara Unduli - Wise Protector (44) Delta-7B (16) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 78 •Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60) Delta-7B (18) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Saesee Tiin - 62 •Saesee Tiin - Prophetic Pilot (44) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (16) Total: 200/200View in the X-Wing Squad Builder Thoughts? Edited with updated lists. Edited March 23, 2019 by Hoffburger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoffburger 209 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Changed the list from Luminara to Saesee. Saesee is an amazing flanker. ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 42 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 54 •“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51) •Clone Commander Cody (3) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Saesee Tiin - 62 •Saesee Tiin - Prophetic Pilot (44) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (16) ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 42 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) Total: 200/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder Edited with updated list. Edited March 22, 2019 by Hoffburger 2 K13R4N and Green Knight reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frimmel 2,593 Posted March 21, 2019 I like the theme you've got going with Anakin and Snips. I'd be inclined to drop the Delta-7B from Luminara and The ARCs and up the genrics to the Seventh Squadron Vets and give them Dedicated. I also like the idea of getting 7th Fleet gunners in there instead of the Delta 7B. But there are just so many decisions with these Republic ships. While I've flown three ARC lists three medium's plus a small base ship is a whole new kettle of flying fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K13R4N 344 Posted March 21, 2019 I've personally only ordered 2 arcs but for others this could work as luminara target locks then passes it on to a 104th. (44) Luminara Unduli [Delta-7 Aethersprite] (2) Synchronized Console Points: 46 (51) "Wolffe" [ARC-170 Starfighter] Points: 51 (42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter] (9) Seventh Fleet Gunner Points: 51 (42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter] (9) Seventh Fleet Gunner Points: 51 Total points: 199 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoffburger 209 Posted March 22, 2019 Updated the lists some. I'm finding that Anakin doesn't care if he has the bid or not because of his pilot ability. If he moves first it lets him K-Turn or Sloop with perfect knowledge and not get stressed. Also, Saesee is turning out to be a pretty baller pilot and Ahsoka, while nice, is a tad overpriced for what she does. It's hard to keep her close once the furball starts although the fact that she can coordinate herself is pretty nice. 1 K13R4N reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoffburger 209 Posted March 24, 2019 Modified the 2 Jedi + Arc list a little bit for the Hyperspace Trial today. Managed to get Top 8 and the list seems really fun and good, Palp can make the Jedi really really tanky and hyper accurate. Saesee + Anakin is an amazing combo if they both have R4 as well. ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 56 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) •Chancellor Palpatine (14) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Saesee Tiin - 62 •Saesee Tiin - Prophetic Pilot (44) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (16) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 80 •Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (18) Total: 198/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder 4 Sior, Greebwahn, FriendofYoda and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FriendofYoda 377 Posted March 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Hoffburger said: ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 56 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) •Chancellor Palpatine (14) How do you feel 7B Luminara or Wolffe compare with the Palp shuttle as the third ship to accompany Anakin and Saesee? Love the R4 combination you've got going, seems great fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoffburger 209 Posted March 25, 2019 11 hours ago, FriendofYoda said: How do you feel 7B Luminara or Wolffe compare with the Palp shuttle as the third ship to accompany Anakin and Saesee? Love the R4 combination you've got going, seems great fun Unfortunately it's really hard to fit 3 7B Jedi in the same list with Anakin. Luminara costs 60 points with 7B and you only have 58 points to play with if you don't want to bid (which actually isn't terrible since Anakin can outmaneuver Aces that move after him due to his ability). Wolffe fits and you can even put Cody on him (the only other crew/gunner in the faction that I like since 7th fleet tends to not work out so well). The only issue with Wolffe, which is also the reason I don't like 7th fleet gunner, is that Arcs die insanely fast. The Palp carrier can sometimes survive for a tiny bit longer since it can skirt the outer edge of the furball for a turn or 2. I would love to see if anything else can fit with Saesee + Anakin both with R4 and 7B, but I haven't found anything that works better than Palp yet. Try some things out and give me a heads up if you find anything that works better. A lot of people might suggest to go with CLT instead of 7B, but you really get force starved if you're playing Anakin and dodging arcs, so you don't have the luxury of doing anything with that focus half the time and I definitely had at least twice as many shots outside of bullseye than within. I also like the extra shields since green dice are very fickle without Autothrusters or 1.0 Palp. With a focus, evade, and a target lock (from Palp's flipside), the 7B dishes the pain and tanks really well. 1 pakirby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sior 4 Posted April 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 7:27 AM, Hoffburger said: Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 80 •Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (18) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 55 •“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51) Veteran Tail Gunner (4) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Saesee Tiin - 62 •Saesee Tiin - Prophetic Pilot (44) R4 Astromech (2) Delta-7B (16) Total: 197/200 This is the version which immediately sprang to mind. Unsure how I feel about having Palpatine on the table. Ahsoka without 7B is 5 points less and at a higher initiative. She may lack the firepower, but she also isn't flying around with a giant "KILL ME" sign like the ARCs tend to do. Still, I agree that Wolffe might be the best ARC pilot, especially with VTG if he can get someone in both arcs. But, again, giant "KILL ME" sign... 1 pakirby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pakirby 208 Posted April 24, 2019 I run Wolffe and VTG rarely triggers for me. And he vanishes pretty quickly with his single agility. 1 Sior reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Dude 7 Posted April 24, 2019 Does the Republic ARC 170 use the same dial as the Rebel version? I'm cheap and can only afford to get one ARC atm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sior 4 Posted April 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Spartan_Dude said: Does the Republic ARC 170 use the same dial as the Rebel version? I'm cheap and can only afford to get one ARC atm. I just checked and yes, the dials are the same. Just make sure you have enough bases. (I'm in the same boat. Could only afford one. At least I completed the wave!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drukona 32 Posted April 29, 2019 My current Hyperspace list is: ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 56 •“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51) Synchronized Console (2) •Clone Commander Cody (3) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Sinker” - 56 •“Sinker” - Wolfpack Veteran (54) Synchronized Console (2) ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 44 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) Synchronized Console (2) ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 44 104th Battalion Pilot - (42) Synchronized Console (2) Total: 200/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder Yes ARC's can die quickly, but when you have 4 flying in formation, all able to pass on Target locks should they not need to use it, Wolffe throwing a Strain token out for another to take advantage of and Sinker flying on the flank to offer re-rolls for everyone, I think it's a very formidable list ! 1 pakirby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeonWolf 942 Posted April 29, 2019 I went 3-3 at the Denver System Open this past weekend flying this list. I'm not the best player (obviously) but if I can do this well then someone that is better than I am should be able to be rather competitive with this list. Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Mace Windu - 66 •Mace Windu - Harsh Traditionalist (46) R2 Astromech (4) Delta-7B (16) Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 82 •Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60) R2 Astromech (4) Delta-7B (18) V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 25 Gold Squadron Trooper - (25) V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 25 Gold Squadron Trooper - (25) Total: 198/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder Round 1 win vs Scum: Zuckuss/Seevor/Black Sun Assassin/Palob. Round 2 loss vs FO: Kylo/Tavson/Starkiller Round 3 win vs FO: Kylo/Tavson/Starkiller Round 4 loss vs Empire: Vader/Soontir/Whisper (11 point bid) Round 5 win vs CIS: Maul/5x Vulture Round 6 loss vs Rebel: Wedge/Braylen/Cassian/Blade Sqdn. Also played in a Hanger Bay pod on day 2 with a Triple ARC list. Went 1-2 but this was the first time I have put an ARC on the table. They take up a lot of room, especially if you are trying to utilize the side-arc abilities of Sinker and Jag. Kinda fun but definitely a high-skill list (or at least more skill than I have at the moment) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Sinker” - 71 •“Sinker” - Wolfpack Veteran (54) R2 Astromech (4) Shield Upgrade (4) Seventh Fleet Gunner (9) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 62 •“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51) R2 Astromech (4) Shield Upgrade (4) •Clone Commander Cody (3) ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Jag” - 66 •“Jag” - CT-55/11-9009 (49) R2 Astromech (4) Shield Upgrade (4) Seventh Fleet Gunner (9) Total: 199/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder 1 pakirby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealSpecter 22 Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, NeonWolf said: Round 5 win vs CIS: Maul/5x Vulture What was your tactic in this game? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comte Oseric 50 Posted April 29, 2019 16 hours ago, Comte Oseric said: Top 4 in a HS in my area with that list. Beat during the swiss both the Event Final winner and the fourth player of the Demi-Finale. Lose because I became too aggressive with a poor Obiwan that went in 1 round from 3hulls + 2 shields, to dead after receiving 7 success attack dices vs all blank green... (hate greenies).. not happy Obi.. On the first Cut round, went VS 4 ARCs. Lost my Anakin during the second engagement (well blocked!). Ended up winning despite the numerous blocks of my opponent. People basing their strategy on blocking their opponent tend to forget one very important thing... They are saving the "blocked" ship from an attack - and I am still getting my mod from the FORCE Jedi Aces are made for patient players.... I love them. Obi-Wan Kenobi (53) R2 Astromech (4) Delta-7B (17) Ship total: 74 Half Points: 37 Threshold: 3 Anakin Skywalker (60) R2 Astromech (4) Delta-7B (18) Ship total: 82 Half Points: 41 Threshold: 3 104th Battalion Pilot (42) Ship total: 42 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 5 Total: 198 View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=Galactic%20Republic&d=v6!s=200!278:,2,201,:;273:,2,201,:;341:,,,,:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron&obs= My match-up were: 1- Loss vs Poe-Bastian-Lulo-Talli 2- Won vs Guri-Han-Old T 3- Won vs Inferno Crack Tie Swarm 4- Won vs UU Dutch Wedge 5- Won vs Fel, Rhymer, Jonus SAver In cut: Won vs 4 Arc Loss to 4 Xwing (swarm tactic) I found Torrent to be overcosted at the moment. Can't get anything out of them that worth 25pts. I flew for several game only Ani+Obi. Was getting an 30-35% of success. So I was able to win with just 2 Jedis. Adding an ARC, was an excellent thing for me. Cannon power + ARC beef gives me what I needed to ensure the 2 Jedis can do their magic! I tried it with different VTorrent configuration and I was never able to get something good out of it. 1 pakirby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeonWolf 942 Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, RealSpecter said: What was your tactic in this game? Ignore Maul and eliminate the droids, basically. The Torrents were deployed basically in the middle of the board, then slow rolled until my opponent committed, then I used them to block if able. The Jedi would flank/dodge and kill droids before they got a shot off. If I remember (it was a long weekend) I sacrificed Mace to the first engagement (after he killed a droid) but I managed to kill all the droids and get half point on Maul. 1 RealSpecter reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
