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13 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

I think they're scared of flying pegs after the fallout from The Hunter Formerly Known as Fett.

Probably totally unrelated. With how far out they have to start working on stuff to get it through Disney, design choices are in place before similar models release. 

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2 hours ago, Robeck said:

Dewbacks could be released together with Jettroopers! For Imperial Assault they were released at the same time, too. They would fit thematicly very well and Jettroopers are perfect as imperial "veteran Troopers". 

Rebel Vets are good at defence, while Jets would be perfect for aggressive first strikes.

If that's the case I'm naming my Dewback Bennie.

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3 minutes ago, TalkPolite said:

Probably totally unrelated. With how far out they have to start working on stuff to get it through Disney, design choices are in place before similar models release. 

This is true, but as players not being privvy to design choices, we are filling our time trying to figure out what it will be, hoping our theory pans out.

25 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

They're not all equal in relevance for all pursuits. For a tabletop infantry wargame of 30-something mm scale, set (so far) in the GCW, designed (presumably) to reach out to a broad customer base, certain things are going to pull ahead. A lot more people have seen some of this media than others. Jaxxon and Duloks are canon. No one would have seriously suggested that makes them equal in consideration to Chewbacca and Stormtroopers. Then again, despite screen time and popular appeal, given the scale and scope of the game, AT-AT's are less likely to appear than a very niche troop type from a comic or cartoon.

I don't specifically think they WILL or WON'T release any given thing next. We pretty much only deal in uncertainties when we try to make these predictions.

Off the top of my head, I think the announced products will give us 7 stormtrooper items so far. Excluding characters, I think we only have 2 non-stormtrooper products. Given those proportions, pretty much anything from the stormtroopers is going to be less thematic variety than anything else.

The release waves aren't all quite so hand-in-glove as the tauntauns and veterans. Therefore, even if a dewback is next sandtroopers aren't an automatic inclusion. The ordinary stormtrooper sculpts would seem to preclude sandtroopers. But if this were true, Rebel Troopers would have precluded commandos and pathfinders. Instead it seems FFG gave a vaguely Scarif/Endor corps and support, then built on that with special forces and commanders specific to both visual themes. They also gave us Imperial corps that would work on both Scarif and Endor, then gave us a special forces and commander for both. We've also got an Endor heavy and support, but no such things for Scarif. Legion's not as symmetrical as it comes off sometimes.

Dewbacks would firmly nail down the idea that "Yeah, Legion has animals now" and the game does seem to follow to that sort of symmetry. Everyone gets droids at once, everyone gets a big vehicle at once, etc. So that doesn't make dewbacks seem terribly unlikely. I personally feel that "not unlikely" is about the most certain we ever get on this stuff. If it's as mirrored as the specialists boxes or big vehicles were, and as hand-in-glove as tauntauns and veterans or Palpatine and his guards, then yes. Dewbacks and Sandtroopers are the most likely. But not all releases are mirrored and not products within a release dovetail that closely.

Rebels just got riding beasts, imperials don't have any yet. Check one for dewbacks. FFG went out of their way to say "you can ride tauntauns on [dewback planet]." Check two for dewbacks.

I'd give it like 80% odds we'll get dewbacks next and if we do, a further 80% odds of a corps unit chosen from ANH. Which would almost have to be sandtroopers or navy troopers. I wouldn't think something more exotic like hired cantina thugs or a mixed bag of Death Star crew would fit the MO thus far for this game. I guess if anyone had the time to chart out all the previous releases up to now they could come up with actual odds for mirrory-ness of releases, and for how tightly allied releases match each other? Some of that might get dangerously subjective for such a small sampling size as we have though. 80% is good odds but still pretty fallible.

This is not about what I deeply truly want them to release. If I could have anything within reason, the next two SKU's would probably be a squad of nameless bounty hunters and a dewback rider, honestly. But I just got my two "must have" armies so... whatever, I'm fine. This release wave of Hoth stuff is THE models I've been waiting for since fully reading the WEG minis book at age 11. I'm 37.  WEG gave us far, far too few models, at too high of a price point, albeit for a proper wargame. WOTC eventually gave us enough, affordable, models but as poor pre-paints in a map skirmish game. SW: IA didn't even come close on any account. But now here we are! A good squad of paintable model Hoth rebels and a squad of tauntauns for a proper rulers and model field game!

@TauntaunScout, there is some hyperbole on your part there?   No one is suggesting duloks.  What I have suggested has apperared in visual entertainment media.   Movies, Animated shows, and video game respectively.  Now however, shows such as Rebels and Clone Wars ARE very important to a great many number of fans.  I would even say that those two shows have more importannce to Star Wars than anything WEG has ever done.   Do I have to point out that Sabine Wren is coming to the game?   She was from the “not as equal in relavance” media known as Star Wars Rebels.    Inferno squad, all the charcters therein, are probably more recignizable to many than imperial navy troopers.   

Just because we get dewbacks doesn't mean any corps unit has to come from a new hope, or even from the original trilogy.   There is now precedent, again with Sabine, to draw on popular media.   

 

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44 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

@TauntaunScout  I would even say that those two shows have more importannce to Star Wars than anything WEG has ever done.

Anything they've ever done? Cause the aurabesh alphabet people use came from not only WEG, but from its miniatures game, specifically. I would further put forth that, without WEG taking the gamble on a 1987 D6 licensing of Star Wars, we probably wouldn't have this whole ecoystem of Star Wars gamer-games that exist today. By 1987 Star Wars was seen as DOA. Taking that license was almost like someone walking around nowadays being all into Silver Spoons or something, it was seen as that offbeat. In those dark days, even many kids who had played with Star Wars toys themselves, had forgotten that it wasn't the same thing as Captain Kirk. West End did a ****ton to carry the torch for us all. Course luckily, they had their finger on the pulse of the nerd-zeitgeist enough to know it would work. It's not an accident that FFG themselves re-printed the WEG D6 core RPG rulebooks.

Duloks, for the record, were in television, books, and had action figures. And are still canon.

Clone Wars cartoons are probably much more relevant to SW:L after Clone Wars stuff comes out, than now.

Sabine Wren is not known outside of specific SW fans. I can't recall ever hearing of her before the product announcement. The OT has gotten itself up there with The Wizard of Oz in American culutre. People who have never seen the actual movies can identify the characters by name. Like Casablanca, people who have never seen the OT, will quote its dialog. Not so, the cartoon and comic book characters. I'd say squads and more heroes from those sources are coming but I'd be surprised if they are next, and not surprised if an OT squad is. I'll be unsurprised but confused if another R1 squad is next.

I am not saying they should not make units from cartoons and comics. I am saying that I find it unlikely we'll see the next wave of imperials drawn from them.

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Personally I'd really like to see Shore Troopers added, and I think they could fit as either a Veteran Core unit, and being "Coastal Defense Stormtroopers" they make sense in the same kind of entrenched defensive line role the Rebel Veterans seem like they'll play. Shores also to me would be easier to distinguish from Storms than Sand Troopers since they're armour has a lighter look like Scouts you could give them white dice and low profile. My hang up with them is aside from the E-22 I don't see much from them in terms of Heavy Weapon options.

Sand Troopers on the other hand while I don't see them being much different from Storm Troopers in their base form they are often seen with more weapons, the base troopers could all have T-21s with maybe black dice and suppressive or something like that. It also lets them bring in the RT-97 as a Heavy Weapon. And while not overly tied to them I could see their detachment then being a Probe Droid since in aNH they were in a search and recover role the Probe would at least tie into their role. Plus I think we all know Dewback is the Creature Trooper so they pair with that nicely hahah

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35 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Anything they've ever done? Cause the aurabesh alphabet people use came from not only WEG, but from its miniatures game, specifically. I would further put forth that, without WEG taking the gamble on a 1987 D6 licensing of Star Wars, we probably wouldn't have this whole ecoystem of Star Wars gamer-games that exist today. By 1987 Star Wars was seen as DOA. Taking that license was almost like someone walking around nowadays being all into Silver Spoons or something, it was seen as that offbeat. In those dark days, even many kids who had played with Star Wars toys themselves, had forgotten that it wasn't the same thing as Captain Kirk. West End did a ****ton to carry the torch for us all. Course luckily, they had their finger on the pulse of the nerd-zeitgeist enough to know it would work.

Clone Wars cartoons are probably much more relevant to SW:L after Clone Wars stuff comes out, than now.

Sabine Wren is not known outside of specific SW fans. I can't recall ever hearing of her before the product announcement. The OT has gotten itself up there with The Wizard of Oz in American culutre. People who have never seen the actual movies can identify the characters by name. Like Casablanca, people who have never seen the OT, will quote its dialog. Not so, the cartoon and comic book characters. I'd say squads and more heroes from those sources are coming but I'd be surprised if they are next, and not surprised if an OT squad is. I'll be unsurprised but confused if another R1 squad is next.

I am not saying they should not make units from cartoons and comics. I am saying that I find it unlikely we'll see the next wave of imperials drawn from them.

Yes, more important.   The  aurabesh is an interesting font - and that is all it is, for the English alphabet.   I will concede that it is more useful than say, Comic Sans, but not important.  

Clone wars gave a whole generation characters to grow up with, relate to, root for, etc.  A font never did that.  

Sabine is not known outside of specific fans?  That may be true, but neither is WEG, and neither are the navy troopers.  I'm sure there are many that don't even remember the detention centre guards.   Just as some might not remember shoretroopers, admittedly.

We are not talking about the cultural impact of Star Wars, and even so, you are saying that the appearance of navy troops is just as significant as people quoting “May the force be with you”? 

Just because you don't know Sabine doesn't make her any less significant.  Just shows a gap in YOUR knowledge, not that the characters aren't important.  

We won't ever agree on this I think, I like a lot of the old, and most if the new, whereas you are submerging yourself in the past of WEG.    

I maintain that navy troopers have a place in the game, but as we only really see a handful at time (usually two?) they aren't the best choice for a corps unit.  At least with the rebel fleet troopers we see a dozen or so.  

 

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How about patrol stormtroopers and their C-PH patrol bikes. They're not as agile as the 74-Z, but they can handle more punishment with better armour, and really I just like the look of patrol stormtroopers. Could even make them a dismounted unit. I'd love them for city terrain tables 

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2 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

 

Clone wars gave a whole generation characters to grow up with, relate to, root for, etc.  A font never did that.  

When Clone Wars is released that'll matter for release predictions. And whole generation of us were rescued from a SW desert by WEG. Lucas made Zahn read the West End books. Fantasy Flight saw fit to re-print the West End books. I'm hardly the only person who has found them influential. The West End books probably directly impacted the content of those two shows, so saying that they're more important than anything West End did is a bit rash, to say the least. There is a ton of the SW universe that WEG either made from whole cloth, or, codified from obscure sources that would have been lost in the shuffle otherwise. The West End RPG is a real important moment in the entire franchise. It's what passes for a cultural watershed or bottleneck moment, in something as small and specific as a hobby/fandom.

In Star Wars products, what's happened in movies, shows and books matters. Specific to Star Wars wargames, what's happened in other SW wargames matters too. Game developers read and play a LOT of games besides their own.

Just trying to have a meaningful canon in any broader sense beyond what this writer or that said in a stand-alone work, really came out of WEG trying to create a consistent in-game universe. If nothing else it really created that sense of a cultural cohesion within the fandom.

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1 hour ago, BlueSquadronPilot said:

How about patrol stormtroopers and their C-PH patrol bikes. They're not as agile as the 74-Z, but they can handle more punishment with better armour, and really I just like the look of patrol stormtroopers. Could even make them a dismounted unit. I'd love them for city terrain tables

I'm very curious if/how/when Solo and/or Sequel Trilogy stuff will appear in Legion. It's a muddy timeline for sure and FFG will (presumably) have their hands full when Clone Wars comes out.

Edit: A bunch of Solo miniatures might be used to debut a single, messy, "neutral forces" faction?

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2 hours ago, Arbitrator said:

Navy Troopers are on the cover art of the Imperial Specialist box, no? Not to mention the comms officer, so it seems we'd likely get them sooner rather than later.

Yes, the comms officer is wearing a navy trooper uniform. Maybe that's the shape of things to come. Or maybe it's a fun way to include one for collectors, since they didn't want to do a whole squad of them. Always in motion, is the future.

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On 3/9/2019 at 4:57 PM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

The problem with sandtroopers is they are nearly identical to the basic stormtrooper, and you can visually make your basic stormies sandtroopers by an application of paint.(1)

Additionally, it would be easy to confuse an opponent due to theh similarity between sand and regualar stormtroopers.(2)

There is also the fact of new units and their sculpts will entice sales.(3)

Now I'm not saying we shouldnt get sandtroopers, but I think it makes more sense to keep them as a rerelease of the basic stormtrooper as multi piece varied pose expansion.   Same stats, just different visually.   I've been suggesting a army builder pack (with much more than just these models) that  would include reissued sculpts as detailed above to be sold along the other version of stormtroopers.  To me that is the best way to get sandtroopers, and leaves the myriad of other imperial troop types tombe sculpted and debut as their own units.(4)

1 - People keep saying this, but given Sandtroopers have backpacks, pauldrons, modified armour, and heavy blasters I don't know why they're saying it. "Painting your Stormtroopers dirty" is not the same as Sandtroopers.

2 - You mean, as opposed to Rebel Troopers and Commandos?

3 - Entirely subjective. I'd buy Sandtroopers or (modern style)Imperial Army in a heartbeat, and I have zero interest in Beach Bros or Navy Mooks. I very much doubt I'm alone.

4 - Except, again, their equipment is different, as is their role. Sandtroopers are not just Dirty Stormtroopers, they're a distinct unit with a distinct role, and the fact that some people have a bad case of Newshiny Syndrome for the Beach Bros doesn't change that.

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I can agree and disagree with all the points made for Navy and Sandtroopers. 

Being that Sabine and Bossk have swap out parts. What if the Sandtroopers had Tatooine and Jedha backpacks??? They could easily match the Dewback when/if it’s released and the Occupier.  Thus filling a role in both on screen forces and a easily believeable “Veteran” squad. 

 

I’d really like to see that crazy commando squad of Stormtroopers from the comics I just don’t see them as a Corps unit. 

Shore-troopers I want them too but same as above their more of a Special Forces slot. 

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58 minutes ago, Yodhrin said:

1 - People keep saying this, but given Sandtroopers have backpacks, pauldrons, modified armour, and heavy blasters I don't know why they're saying it. "Painting your Stormtroopers dirty" is not the same as Sandtroopers.

2 - You mean, as opposed to Rebel Troopers and Commandos?

3 - Entirely subjective. I'd buy Sandtroopers or (modern style)Imperial Army in a heartbeat, and I have zero interest in Beach Bros or Navy Mooks. I very much doubt I'm alone.

4 - Except, again, their equipment is different, as is their role. Sandtroopers are not just Dirty Stormtroopers, they're a distinct unit with a distinct role, and the fact that some people have a bad case of Newshiny Syndrome for the Beach Bros doesn't change that.

Okay, first off lets look at what the StarWars.com (you know the official site) databank says about sandtroopers:

SANDTROOPERS

Stormtroopers dispatched to desert worlds wear specialized gear and are nicknamed sandtroopers. Sandtroopers wear standard stormtrooper armor augmented with cooling units, a helmet sand filter, and a survival backpack with extra rations and water. While hunting for the Death Star plans on Tatooine, sandtroopers used native dewbacks as mounts.

So.. visually they have backpacks, which the DLT stormtrooper heavy upgrade has.  And they all have pauldrons, which the stormtrooper leader has.  

So visually, yes, there are some differences, I concede that.  But they wear standard stormtrooper armour which has been upgraded with some environmental gear - which, hey, we have a 3 point upgrade in game for.   

Model wise, lacking backpacks, sure thing, but the aforementioned upgrade covers everything the sandtroopers armour is modified for.   Unless I am totally missing a water drinking mechanic in the game.. I always do my best to stay hydrated when I play.   

These troops on tatooine that we call sandtroopers, are seemingly called stomrtroopers by Old Ben..  

So I can't think of ANY mechanical difference a sandtrooper would have in game that cannot be accomplished, based on the differences listed in the databank, by adding the environmental gear upgrade.  

As to your second point, unless there is the mon cal, or pruneface model, I DO mix them up.   The poncho detailing/sculpt is not as good a differentiation in my opinion.  

Point 3 & 4; I've already discussed how, mechanically there isn't much difference between sandtroopers and stormtroopers.   Now the same could be said for the snowtroopers, but they have the advantage of a very different sculpt, which the powers that be decided to also give new keywords to differentiate them further.   But, since the same powers that be gave a pauldron to the stormtrooper leader and the backpack to the DLT upgrade seen on sandtroopers, it really seems they intend them to be one and the same as stormtroopers.   

There IS a possible way to get a middle ground for the stormtrooper/sandtrooper differentiations, and that is to release upgrades sculpts for the stormtrooper.   Now, I'm not suggesting they alter the existing expansion or a stormtrooper 2 expansion, that makes no sense.   But, a multipose/modifiable version could certainly be made availiable, and I'd to it with an expansion that includes other things than just the stormtroopers with new sculpt.   Some new heavies (t-21’s perhaps) a new commander, few other items as a sort of army builder box.  This, I feel, would be bought for multiple reasons - the commander, upgrades (heavies) for regular stormtrooper squads, AND the new customizable sculpts that let you visually make your stormtroopers look like sandtroopers.   A simple way to, as they say, have your cake and eat it too.  Everyone wins.   New sculpt, availiable only in the army pack, great for new players, current players will also buy it for the sculpts, despite probably owning 3-4 stormtrooper squads, as well as the new content, again ONLY in this box (leader/command cards, etc).  FFG sells more the basic stormtrooper card stays the same, they have to do minimal, relatively speaking, work on development, and just work on new multi-part sculpts.  It is a win/win for everyone.  

Call it a 501st boxed set for us fanboys as well and voila! It will sell itself.  

Clearly FFG is starting to embrace alternate sculpts so the groundwork is laid out.

I can't tell you what to like or not, but as I see it, there is no gear a sandtrooper has that either has bearing in the game, or cannot be simulated with the Environmental gear upgrade to warrent them being seperate.  While the basic rebel troop and the commmandos DO look the same to me, there is sculpt/detailing to seperate them, and even the rebel veterans are done up in the hoth gear to be visually different.   But as my stormtrooper squads always have a pauldron adorned leader, and at least one backpack, they strike me as being sandtroopers.  

For all we know, we could get an equivalent to the rebel veterans that adds in new sculpts for stormtroopers and upgrades to convert 3 other stormtrooper squads to have veteran status.   Include a squad of new sculpts/customizable poses, an personnel upgrade that gives them training slot, but requires a  training upgrade be equipped could also work quite well.  It becomes a must buy for the empire, whose stormtroopers are seen everywhere, and something everyone already has.

 

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1 hour ago, Thalandar said:

So, I hear a lot of people arguing that navy troopers don't fit the elite analogy. I would refer you to Wookiepidea: Death Star troopers, also referred to as Imperial trooper guardsand Death Star sentries, were elite Imperial Navy troopers chosen by Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin for placement on the first Death Star.  

As your, completely unnofficial wookipedia, link states, the death star troopers were elite versions of the navy trooper, which makes the navy trooper not suitable for the ite analogy.   You see, technically the death star troopers are different by your example..

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I'm not quite sure why everyone is so hung up on the notion of the next imperial corps having to be elite. The Rebel Veterans aren't 'elite', they're veterans, which means they are essentially blooded/experienced troopers, but they don't have elite training. Never mind the fact that military forces class what is and isn't an elite differently from one another. The sole requirement, in my opinion, for any kind of mirror match is that there be an imperial corps unit. If they need to be more specialised, then absolutely any imperial infantry unit from here on out counts as specialised for one purpose or another.

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1 hour ago, srMontresor said:

 The sole requirement, in my opinion, for any kind of mirror match is that there be an imperial corps unit. If they need to be more specialised, then absolutely any imperial infantry unit from here on out counts as specialised for one purpose or another.

This. All we can say with anything approaching certainty is corps and support. That's it. Very few "next releases" have been accurately predicted on these forums, so far as I can tell. Dewback riders and sandtroopers on foot are the most likely for a number of reasons, but hardly a certainty. I think second most likely is dewback riders and navy troopers. Regardless of anyone's personal feeling about what they'd like to play and collect, navy troopers make as much or more sense as anything else for a corps unit. FFG seems to love to release lots of special forces, so if they save the elite sandtroopers (these elite troops are drawn from the elite ranks of Vader's personal elites!) for special forces I won't be surprised.

9 hours ago, Yodhrin said:

1 - People keep saying this, but given Sandtroopers have backpacks, pauldrons, modified armour, and heavy blasters I don't know why they're saying it. "Painting your Stormtroopers dirty" is not the same as Sandtroopers.

Unlike all the other old movie stormtroopers, the Legion ST's have a commander pauldron, two heavy weapon choices, and a guy in a big backpack. It DOES seem as if they made them to be an either/or model. They ARE very similar. BUT...

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2 - You mean, as opposed to Rebel Troopers and Commandos?

Yup. FFG seems to have no compunction about releasing nearly-identical looking things with different stats. Rebel Trooper corps and a support RT pilot that look right for Scarif or Endor, followed by Endor special forces, followed by Scarif special forces. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they gave us almost-sandtrooper corps, followed by actual-sandtrooper corps or special forces someday. Personally I kind of hope it'll go down more like that: Our pre-existing stormtroopers with sand-like details (corps) plus dewbacks (support) plus actual sandtroopers (special forces) allowing a full and complete Tatooine themed 800 point imperial army. The announced heavies can plausibly deploy to sandy environments as well. As can some of the imperial commander models.

Maybe they'll do this up all themed, all the time though, going back and filling in the GCW gaps before CW comes out. They have nailed down woods and jungle beyond peradventure for both factions. Plus they have provided us very well for Hoth imperials, while basic rebel models are very useable for fully fleshed out desert themed armies. So if they were to provide the needed models to nail down the armies as they exist, I'd guess Dewbacks, Sandtroopers (or navy to mirror fleets?). Followed by Reikan and Kayn Somos, or aesthetically similar commanders. Perhaps like Hoth rebels, desert imperials are next. OR... something totally unpredictable, as is usually the case.

 

Has anyone tried to recreate a this theoretical army of Krennic, Deathtroopers, 3x e-webs (with logical or educated guesses as to upgrades), take that points total, deduct it from 800, and divide by 6? I have tried but I'm not competitive so I would add no upgrades or random upgrades, and I get numbers that indicate a snowtrooper-like level of expense. Taking those 5 things without upgrades brings us to 331 points. Divide the rest of your points by 6 gets you 78.16 points per corps unit. There's a lot of unkown variables but you can't even run 6 stormtroopers or snowtroopers with that. You can make 5 man squads with a heavy weapon and grenades and points leftover... if Krennic et al use no upgrades whatsoever. Food for thought.

The only thing besides "corps and support" we know is: if they release that little sand-jetski from the '97 ANH revision, instead of a dewback, some people will be very irate...

 

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2 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

As your, completely unnofficial wookipedia, link states, the death star troopers were elite versions of the navy trooper, which makes the navy trooper not suitable for the ite analogy.   You see, technically the death star troopers are different by your example..

They fit the analogy perfectly. People have been stating that naval troopers wouldn't compare to rebel veterans because they aren't veteran troops-however, death star troopers fit perfectly.  But, hey, what do I know? Everyone's guess is speculation.  I was offering my 2 cents into the mix, and throwing in that Death Star Troopers are an elite version of Navy troopers.  They fit the analogy perfectly.

Another point to add to this is that most peoples references to "Navy Trooper" talk about how we saw them fighting side by side with stormtroopers in RTJ, wearing black uniforms.  The black uniform was first worn by death star troopers, although other navy trooper adopted the black uniform later on (that is cannon, btw).

As this whole speculation is unofficial and every single person's opinion on this matter is speculation and unofficial, not sure what your statement about wookipedia is about. 

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9 minutes ago, Thalandar said:

 

They fit the analogy perfectly. People have been stating that naval troopers wouldn't compare to rebel veterans because they aren't veteran troops-however, death star troopers fit perfectly.

Yes. Four random Wookies drawn from the galaxy doesn't compare to the personal bodyguards of the head of state either. Not sure why people are so sure each release will be a guaranteed to be a a perfect statistical and thematic mirror image. Leia in Endor clothes was hardly a good pairing to ANH rebel squads. Etc. etc. etc.

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11 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Yes. Four random Wookies drawn from the galaxy doesn't compare to the personal bodyguards of the head of state either. Not sure why people are so sure each release will be a guaranteed to be a a perfect statistical and thematic mirror image. Leia in Endor clothes was hardly a good pairing to ANH rebel squads. Etc. etc. etc.

The way I see it is the Empires next Corps will have a training upgrade and a heavy weapon that is a detachment.  That's as far as the similarities would go.

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35 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Yes. Four random Wookies drawn from the galaxy doesn't compare to the personal bodyguards of the head of state either. Not sure why people are so sure each release will be a guaranteed to be a a perfect statistical and thematic mirror image. Leia in Endor clothes was hardly a good pairing to ANH rebel squads. Etc. etc. etc.

I think ffg is trying to keep play balance on one hand, and staying true to the star wars universe on the other. Sure, there are no perfect mirror images. Notice how empire only have entourage? Fleet troopers and snowtroopers fill 2 different roles

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