"Talent"-less Force Users?

[Hoarder of Garlic Bread 2,556]

The N1 expansion does not have a Force power in its spread. Which raises the question: is it possible that I4 Anakin will be FFG's introduction of us to Force users who do not have the Force power slot? It would not be wholly unprecedented, as there are many uniques in the game--even on ships that do get elite talents--who do not get the talent slot.

[Scum4Life 542]

He might get a talent instead but most likely no talent or force ability

[Scum4Life 542]

He's literally never flown a spaceship, only podracers.

[GLEXOR 589]

5 minutes ago, Scum4Life said:

He's literally never flown a spaceship, only podracers.

Now this is podracing!

[GuacCousteau 2,012]

Yeah, I really wouldn't be surprised if kid Anakin doesn't get the Force power slot.

He's totally untrained at that point, and is unable to consciously use any powers. Luke at least has the advantage of his training on the Falcon, Obi-Wan yammering in his ear, the fact that Instinctive Aim is a Force power and is obviously what he does and that his card is probably meant to represent him over the whole OT era, whereas there's a much bigger time gap between Anakin in the N-1 and Anakin in the Jedi Starfighter. 

Whether or not he gets the talent slot remains to be seen, I guess. Again, I feel like he may well not as Juke + free evade + Force token sounds pretty strong. 

[Wiredin 3,459]

does he even get a force token?

[GuacCousteau 2,012]

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

does he even get a force token?

There's a token in the spread and he's the only card it could possibly go on. So yeah, he's presumably getting a Force rating of 1. 

[SpiderMana 2,606]

4 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

does he even get a force token?

He is an unnaturally good pilot, after all.

 

Semi-related, is he now the only character to have two completely different versions in the same faction? Like, two separate abilities and initiative. Obviously several pilots in the Rebel faction especially show up in more than one ship.

[PanchoX1 1,288]

2 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

He is an unnaturally good pilot, after all.

 

Semi-related, is he now the only character to have two completely different versions in the same faction? Like, two separate abilities and initiative. Obviously several pilots in the Rebel faction especially show up in more than one ship.

Dalan Oberos?

[GuacCousteau 2,012]

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

Semi-related, is he now the only character to have two completely different versions in the same faction?

Dalan Oberos in Scum. 

But that's intentional, and probably meant to show that one is actually an imposter and maybe even the guy who killed the original.

Anakin is the first time this has happened for someone who is clearly meant to be the same person within one faction. It's an interesting precedent. Presumaby their subtitles will be different, and that might open the doors for more variations, like a Red Leader version of Wedge or a young version of Boba on a Scum Slave One with Jango's paint scheme.  

[Wiredin 3,459]

8 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Dalan Oberos in Scum. 

But that's intentional, and probably meant to show that one is actually an imposter and maybe even the guy who killed the original.

Anakin is the first time this has happened for someone who is clearly meant to be the same person within one faction. It's an interesting precedent. Presumaby their subtitles will be different, and that might open the doors for more variations, like a Red Leader version of Wedge or a young version of Boba on a Scum Slave One with Jango's paint scheme.  

they did mention that being something they wanted to explore in the original keynote for 2.0. 

[SpiderMana 2,606]

Yeah, Oberos has different abilities because he’s actually not the same person, by my understanding.

Its not as if this is new, just the first time it’s shown up in 2.0 as far as I can come up with. Obviously the Resistance has plenty of instances of this when it was first released.

[theBitterFig 11,596]

Wouldn't surprise me if literal baby Vader doesn't have a Force Talent.  With Proton Torpedo and Instinctive Aim to go with his free Evade, he'd be pretty potent.  Now, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.  I'm not going to be surprised either way, or if he's got a different pilot ability.

[Hoarder of Garlic Bread 2,556]

26 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Wouldn't surprise me if literal baby Vader doesn't have a Force Talent.  With Proton Torpedo and Instinctive Aim to go with his free Evade, he'd be pretty potent.  Now, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.  I'm not going to be surprised either way, or if he's got a different pilot ability.

Yeah, instinctive aim would be potent on him. Spend a force, mod with a focus (or if KiR2-C4nos is equipped, spend the evade if you only need to fix one eyeball) on an I4 chassis. He's also going to last longer than most X-wing's, given that Full Throttle ability.

[theBitterFig 11,596]

7 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

He's also going to last longer than most X-wing's, given that Full Throttle ability.

Over a single round of incoming fire, the N-1 isn't any more durable than an X-Wing.  Only after living through a first round will Full Throttle maybe become better than an extra hull.

 

Technically, the N-1 is more vulnerable than an X-Wing, since it's possible for the Evade token to go unspent, but realistically, if a ship is rolling that many natty evades, it's going to live into multiple rounds.

[Vector Strike 622]

He'll get a midi-chlorian Talent slot. And only him. 

[Hoarder of Garlic Bread 2,556]

Well, nobody is going to just simply joust with their flankers! Over the course of a game, assuming it eats only 1 shot a round, the N-1 is more durable (and assuming that it isn't rolling natties at a silly rate.

[Managarmr 2,353]

Its ages ago I saw the hideous film in cinema back then, but wasn't it mostly R2 which immemsely helped fly the actual spaceship with completely different cockpit and controls in an vacuum 3D environment?

Whereas Little Ani, while having unnatural inept ability and the force, only has experience with (admittedly insane) ground based 2D flying podracers in air (on courses which where assumed to be unflyable by ordinary humans).

So calculate on Ani+R2

Edited February 14, 2019 by Managarmr
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[mazz0 2,910]

1 hour ago, Managarmr said:

Its ages ago I saw the hideous film in cinema back then, but wasn't it mostly R2 which immemsely helped fly the actual spaceship with completely different cockpit and controls in an vacuum 3D environment?

Whereas Little Ani, while having unnatural inept ability and the force, only has experience with (admittedly insane) ground based 2D flying podracers in air (on courses which where assumed to be unflyable by ordinary humans).

So calculate on Ani+R2

Pod-racing wasn't entirely 2D.  And Star Wars space isn't entirely 3D...

[mazz0 2,910]

4 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Presumaby their subtitles will be different

Shall we guess what it might be?  Off the top of my head:

• force prodigy
• chosen one
• podracer

[millertime059 1,228]

Little orphan* Annie

Annie are you Ok

Midichlorian monster

Space Steve Urkel (torpedo Shot ‘did I do that?’)

[Effenhoog 990]

Technically Corran Horn already pioneered this category, though he is still a Legends timeline character.

[Tyhar7 402]

14 minutes ago, Effenhoog said:

Technically Corran Horn already pioneered this category, though he is still a Legends timeline character.

 Also Kyle Katarn.

 

Edited February 15, 2019 by Tyhar7

[eMeM 3,188]

On 2/14/2019 at 10:14 PM, mazz0 said:

Shall we guess what it might be?  Off the top of my head:

• force prodigy
• chosen one
• podracer

"Another pathetic lifeform"

 

[Hoarder of Garlic Bread 2,556]

On 2/14/2019 at 6:47 PM, Effenhoog said:

Technically Corran Horn already pioneered this category, though he is still a Legends timeline character.

No more Daredevil, Elusive, or Predator for you then!