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2nd Faction: Should I or Shouldn’t I

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When Legion first came out, I was heavily invested in xwing and didn’t see an end to that game in sight. Between the cost of running two factions and everything else, I opted for the faction that appealed more to me (Empire).

Fast forward nearly a year, and my xwing budget really doesn’t exist - I kept the things I already had and converted them, but even more factions on top of the 4 I have doesn’t appeal to me. Legion, on the other hand, is gaining steam for me. I’ve been playing at league night for our FLGS whenever I can make it out.

With the Clone Wars in Legion news, I was sure to buy one of those factions. The basic rebel trooper doesn’t excite me much. That said, I’m really liking some of the Rebel characters and that new landspeeder is super cool.

What makes sense most? Buy rebels for a full GCW board when I can get someone without minis to show? Buy one prequel faction and stick to one per era? Which if so (and would either look cool against Imps).

Lastly, what would you Rebel players define as the must haves for someone who literally has Luke (no reason to keep them at the time so I traded stuff out). 

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I originally had no intention of buying Rebels, but eventually built an army so I had a spare, and because I wanted more painting projects.  

That said, if it came down to it, I would definitely hold out for the Clone Wars releases, or at least the announcement, whenever that is, and then make your call. 

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I think it depends on your available opponents, both with and without Legion armies. More opponents/friends without Legion armies I think favors buying Rebels, so you have a spare army for friendly games. More opponents/friends with Legion armies favors holding out for Clone Wars.

Also depends on your terrain collection. Some terrain really works best in one era or the other.

As far as must have units for Rebels. Consensus seems to be Rebel Troopers and Fleet Troopers are both good. Leia works well with Luke. After that it seems to come down to preference.

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10 hours ago, Proton Torpedo said:

I think it depends on your available opponents, both with and without Legion armies. More opponents/friends without Legion armies I think favors buying Rebels, so you have a spare army for friendly games. More opponents/friends with Legion armies favors holding out for Clone Wars.

Also depends on your terrain collection. Some terrain really works best in one era or the other.

Currently, most of my opponents have armies. A lot of this is coming from building a loaner/second army so I can set up a full board experience without assistance. It’s a “future proofing” aspect as well as giving me more painting hobby time. I could see either direction - polling my opponents most of them aren’t going into prequels. A handful of them may buy “the other side” of GCW era stuff.

Terrain - it’s whatever I make for myself. I have a 3d printer, and my home board is a mixture of old school hobbying and printed. I’d say most of it is pretty non-specific and could work for either era. I do have a tie wreck that is clearly GCW though.

I think my question is “will a prequel army fighting my imperials make sense?” 

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7 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I think my question is “will a prequel army fighting my imperials make sense?” 

 

Depends on how you mean.  In terms of gameplay, we really don't know, as the CW armies haven't even been revealed.  If you mean in terms of lore, it's easy to come up with a scenario for the armies overall, if not necessarily individual characters.  Empire vs CIS easily equates to Separatist holdouts that ignored the shutdown order, or were reactivated, and are determined to try and hold off the Empire.  There's precedent in both the EU and in Disney's Canon.  Empire vs Republic could either be clones that disobeyed Order 66, or could be early Imperial troops staging a coup against the Emperor.

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22 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

If you mean in terms of lore, it's easy to come up with a scenario for the armies overall, if not necessarily individual characters.

Yeah, was thinking more lore and if it would work thematically with both my armies. In an established group of gamers, that matters less as we just want to play with our armies. For hooking a new person in, I’d want something that looks good visually as well as fun.

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Armies don't have to be a huge ongoing commitment that you budget for every month or so. Paint a core set or two worth of rebels and add whatever you like the look of until you have an 800 point loaner army. When landspeeders come out, add those too.

Since you are already "following" Imperials, you'll have the latest interesting gear, grenades, generators, comms, etc. that your rebels can use to stay halfways "current" if you decide to play them in the stores.

If it were me, I'd paint two core sets of rebels (dirt cheap) plus Chewbacca and whatever 2nd commander you think is coolest: for me that would mean painting two core sets and Chewie while awaiting the generic commander boxed set of 4 figures.

That's 800 points and then some, not terribly expensive, there's lots of fun ways to paint them, and when Landspeeders come out you'll already have a playable force to plug them into.

If you really feel the itch to chase the meta when list building, then I'd paint a 3rd core set just to give you maxed out corps troops and to finagle your AT-RT weapon combos (3 of a kind, 1 of each, etc.) but don't worry about the latest and greatest expansions like commandos cause there will always be a later-greater one. That's how armies jump from being a one-time purchase, into being a monthly budget item.

Edit: I just plugged this into Tabletop Admiral. 2 core sets using Z6's, a mix of RT guns, plus Leia and Chewie, is 858 before any sort of force powers or other things.

Edited by TauntaunScout

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On 1/15/2019 at 9:35 AM, ScummyRebel said:

Currently, most of my opponents have armies. A lot of this is coming from building a loaner/second army so I can set up a full board experience without assistance. It’s a “future proofing” aspect as well as giving me more painting hobby time. I could see either direction - polling my opponents most of them aren’t going into prequels. A handful of them may buy “the other side” of GCW era stuff.

Terrain - it’s whatever I make for myself. I have a 3d printer, and my home board is a mixture of old school hobbying and printed. I’d say most of it is pretty non-specific and could work for either era. I do have a tie wreck that is clearly GCW though.

I think my question is “will a prequel army fighting my imperials make sense?” 

Based on your situation it seems like getting 2 GCW armies is better than 1 from each era. Of course, you may change your mind once Clone Wars comes out, but that can't be helped regardless.

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1 hour ago, Proton Torpedo said:

Based on your situation it seems like getting 2 GCW armies is better than 1 from each era. Of course, you may change your mind once Clone Wars comes out, but that can't be helped regardless.

Yeah, my thinking is that GCW releases will slow down (not stop, just not rapid fire) while they roll out Clone Wars to catch them up. If that’s the case, I can pick and choose with an informed knowledge of the options my secondary army rather than “one or more of all the things!” 

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