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Hi all, I have the week of Christmas off, and in addition to painting, I'm planning to start creating terrain for my board. I am very much in the planning phase and would love some feedback.

Since I will probably only use these at home, I'm aiming to create a few large "scenes" to sit on a 6x3 battlefield. This is also for a cinematic storyline I'm working on in my head with custom Operations.

I'm going to plan out 3 pieces, each measuring 12" x 18" which, side by side, would be 1/4 of the entire battlefield, allowing for some transition areas of clear terrain.

I wanted to plan each area piece to allow for units to move through them, but requiring more than 1 move to get through. Admittedly, the first here is designed to be a swamp, so it is very cluttered and difficult. Here is my early concept...

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Now to explain my scribbles. The full square dimensions are self explanatory, each Range is 6", while the movement tools are 3, 5, and 7", respectively. The piece will start as a rectangular foam sheet and I'll shape it into more of a peanut, for more natural transition.

The arrows signal the freedom of movement onto, within, and out of the terrain. There would ideally not be a clear LOS from one end to the other but that wasn't drawn well in my sketch.

—On the far left semicircle, a space for trees or foliage, with room for troopers to fit among it for cover.

—Top left, swamp water/dense foliage, cover but impassable for movement.

—Bottom center, foliage for cover, and room for troopers to get within.

—Top center, a crashed escape pod in swamp water. This is the central focus, something to block LOS, but also kind of the area where movement is funneled to/around. The "objective."

—Top right, trees for cover and space for troopers.

—Bottom right, boulders/dense foliage for LOS cover but impassable for movement.

 

Would love any feedback! Do you think the space would be too cramped, given the rough estimation of movement and range measurements? That is kind of the point of the piece, to be a thick, swampy area of intense cover/close range combat.

I am also working on sketches for two other pieces roughly the same size! They will likely be more "open" than this swamp.

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Interesting. I'm curious to see what that 'open space' is. ;)

 

On a more serious note, I don't think the spaces will be too cramped, albeit I'm the type that loves alot of terrain. HOWEVER, I always try to leave enough distance between bits to give the largest base the capable of getting through (in this case, the AT-ST and the Airspeeder)

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3 hours ago, Alino said:

Interesting. I'm curious to see what that 'open space' is. ;)

 

On a more serious note, I don't think the spaces will be too cramped, albeit I'm the type that loves alot of terrain. HOWEVER, I always try to leave enough distance between bits to give the largest base the capable of getting through (in this case, the AT-ST and the Airspeeder)

Haha "open space" was just free and clear for movement and cover. It would just be some basic grass flock.

 

I don't own the airspeeder or at-st! Do you happen to know the diameter of their bases? I would like to plan ahead for them as you say lol

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7 minutes ago, manoftomorrow010 said:

Haha "open space" was just free and clear for movement and cover. It would just be some basic grass flock.

 

I don't own the airspeeder or at-st! Do you happen to know the diameter of their bases? I would like to plan ahead for them as you say lol

I have 2 AT-STs and 2 Airspeeders, one moment. The bases are about 4 inches wide. :)

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2 hours ago, Alino said:

I have 2 AT-STs and 2 Airspeeders, one moment. The bases are about 4 inches wide. :)

thanks! hmm I measured the AT-RT and it was 4" wide as well, I thought the AT-ST and Snowspeeder bases were larger than that. I did plan to make room for the AT-RT so it sounds like I'm OK here.

I drew things out on a spare block of foam last night, to scale, and put some minis on, and I think I will have to either 1) go larger on the overall size, or 2) cut back on the "zones" of cover/difficult/impassable terrain to like 4, instead of 6.

 

Also, I don't have my escape pods from Imperial Terrain yet, when I get them, that could change my plan as well. I'm approximating its size based on their images in comparison with a trooper model.

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1 hour ago, manoftomorrow010 said:

thanks! hmm I measured the AT-RT and it was 4" wide as well, I thought the AT-ST and Snowspeeder bases were larger than that. I did plan to make room for the AT-RT so it sounds like I'm OK here.

I drew things out on a spare block of foam last night, to scale, and put some minis on, and I think I will have to either 1) go larger on the overall size, or 2) cut back on the "zones" of cover/difficult/impassable terrain to like 4, instead of 6.

 

Also, I don't have my escape pods from Imperial Terrain yet, when I get them, that could change my plan as well. I'm approximating its size based on their images in comparison with a trooper model.

One moment, I'm going to go see if they use the same base.

The AT-RT base is a bit under 3 inches. Are you going by Centimeters?

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My week was severely derailed and I didn't really get much of anything done, but I did manage to put together a little sniper's nest for commandos/scouts. This is the nest and I'll build the leg frames tomorrow, I think the platform will be exactly within height 1. You can fit 4 troopers in it, so it could hold 2 sniper strike teams, if you so choose, or stuff most of your squad in the nest.

Next steps are to add some camo netting and some flock/foliage. I'm gonna rely on that to blend it and not worry about painting.

To the posts above, I started on my swamp idea, but scaled it down dramatically. I did paint my crashed escape pod, though. I'll do some work on it and post some pics.

 

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Some updates on my sniper nest. Finishing up the top before adding the legs on.

First I bought some burlap woven ribbonn at the hobby store and hot glued it to the roof and sides.

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Then I used some foliage/ground cover to finish the camouflage netting. The pics here aren't dry, so it's a mess everywhere. I'll seal it later this afternoon and be done with the main platform.

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Might have to copy that sniper nest. I was hesitant when you first shared it but man that's great. My advice for future ones would be a brown wash over the entirety of the wood before applying flock and the like

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Just now, Alino said:

Might have to copy that sniper nest. I was hesitant when you first shared it but man that's great. My advice for future ones would be a brown wash over the entirety of the wood before applying flock and the like

It's balsa wood and it warps VERY easily, so I avoided putting any water based things on it. If you frame it like I did, it may not warp, but I didn't want to risk it. I'm going to make a 2nd, and I might try the paint on that one.

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4 minutes ago, manoftomorrow010 said:

It's balsa wood and it warps VERY easily, so I avoided putting any water based things on it. If you frame it like I did, it may not warp, but I didn't want to risk it. I'm going to make a 2nd, and I might try the paint on that one.

ah alright, I wasn't aware. I assume wood stain wouldn't work either if that's the case

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3 hours ago, manoftomorrow010 said:

You can paint balsa, but you have to do some work beforehand. I think you gotta do some sand and sealer, and that was just too much work for me 😅

Only if you're concerned about it remaining square, i.e. true to desired dimensions. For something like this a little warping wouldn't be such a bad thing, I think. You could always hit it with a wash before assembly, just so any warping doesn't create tension.

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If you want to model with wood, I'd recommend bass wood. It is easy to find (at most hobby stores), and if you get access to a laser cutter, you can really make the details pop. Even without, it will hold up far better than balsa.

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And here's my finished crashed escape pod. The scene is on a 12x12 piece of birch plywood. I'll paint the edges at some point but left them as is, no bevel or shaping because I plan to make more that you can sit next to one another in configurations to make a larger swamp.

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This was my first time using flock and liquid water. Definitely learned some lessons for the next pieces!

 

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On 2/3/2019 at 5:08 PM, manoftomorrow010 said:

And here's my finished crashed escape pod. The scene is on a 12x12 piece of birch plywood. I'll paint the edges at some point but left them as is, no bevel or shaping because I plan to make more that you can sit next to one another in configurations to make a larger swamp.

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This was my first time using flock and liquid water. Definitely learned some lessons for the next pieces!

 

It looks really AWESOME!!

How did you make that water? it even reflects, it's great

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