shaothing 1 Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Relentless: "When you declare an attack targeting a figure within 3 spaces, that figure suffers 1 Strain" No Quarter: "When an Imperial figure declares an attack targeting a hero who has suffered 2 or more Strain, apply +1 Surge to the attack results" If a Trandoshan Hunter declares an attack on a hero that already has 1 Strain, the hero would have 2 Strain during the Declare Attack stage of the attack. Does this trigger No Quarter (i.e. the attack gains +1 Surge)? On a side note, this seems to be the inverse of the interaction between Oppression ("When a hero who has suffered 2 or more Strain declares an attack, apply +1 Evade to the defense results") and Strain-imposing abilities that are used during the Declare Attack stage (e.g. Diala's Precise Strike). I suppose the ruling is similar for both cases? Edited December 13, 2018 by shaothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1bert 4,115 Posted December 13, 2018 Performing an ability seems analogous to paying the cost to perform an ability - it doesn't cause the original trigger to be re-evaluated: 1. Declare a valid target (in line of sight) if the target is hero who has suffered 2 or more strain, No Quarter triggers if the target is a figure within 3 spaces, Relentless triggers. If both No Quarter and Relentless triggered, they triggered at the same time and you can choose the order in which they are resolved. If only Relentless triggers, it is performed. If only No Quarter triggers, it is performed. If neither trigger, neither is performed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaothing 1 Posted December 13, 2018 So if the hero had only 1 strain when attack was declared, No Quarter will not trigger, even if Relentless causes the hero to have 2 strain during the rest of the attack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1bert 4,115 Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Right. When the attack was declared, the hero had less than 2 strain. It would be different if No Quarter was instead: "When an Imperial figure declares an attack, if the target is a hero who has suffered 2 or more Strain, apply +1 Surge to the attack results", the trigger would be "when declaring an attack" and the ability would always trigger on imperial attacks, and the target and strain would be checked when the ability is resolved. Edited December 13, 2018 by a1bert 1 shaothing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaothing 1 Posted December 14, 2018 What about Prey Upon Doubt and Oppression? i.e. if the Rebel hero is at 1 Strain, Imperial player exhausts Prey Upon Doubt and Rebel player chooses to take the strain, would this trigger Oppression? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1bert 4,115 Posted December 14, 2018 No, Prey Upon Doubt + Oppression is completely analogous to the Precise Strike + Oppression case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites