librarian101 244 Posted December 13, 2018 So this is a generic force card. Can any force user use it? The card says on it the Dark Side, is there a dark side user only? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hippie Moosen 200 Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, librarian101 said: So this is a generic force card. Can any force user use it? The card says on it the Dark Side, is there a dark side user only? Each faction will be considered either Light side or Dark side. Currently the Light side is the Rebellion and the Resistance, with the Dark side being the Empire, First Order, and Scum & Villainy. We can guess that the Republic will be Light and the CIS will be Dark. Right now the only way to put Dark side cards on Light side ships is to use Maul on either Ezra or Kanan in a Rebel build. Edited December 13, 2018 by Hippie Moosen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayedubbleyoo 215 Posted December 13, 2018 Senator Palpatine likes this. 1 Bucknife reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiemfire 2,204 Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Hippie Moosen said: Right now the only way to put Dark side cards on Light side ships is to use Maul on either Ezra or Kanan in a Rebel build. Ezra must be part of the list in some fashion though (pilot or gunner). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 7,742 Posted December 13, 2018 So lets go to Scum & Villainy faction; would that be the Light side, or the Dark? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiemfire 2,204 Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Marinealver said: So lets go to Scum & Villainy faction; would that be the Light side, or the Dark? Realistically? Neither and both. Tropey as is often the case in most fictional stories (Star Wars included)? Dark since they aren't the "good guys"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gadwag 544 Posted December 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, Marinealver said: So lets go to Scum & Villainy faction; would that be the Light side, or the Dark? The only scum force user is Asajj, and she is a dark side user in the FFG app. 2 Bucknife and SOTL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderMana 1,184 Posted December 14, 2018 HaTiN’ kAnAn. That’s all. (Yeah Scum is presumably dark side, but I’m sure they’ll release a ruling before anything more questionable comes out.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakaydos 4,125 Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, SpiderMana said: HaTiN’ kAnAn. That’s all. (Yeah Scum is presumably dark side, but I’m sure they’ll release a ruling before anything more questionable comes out.) If Kanan was inside his own arc, this would be an amazing build. 3 1 SpiderMana, GILLIES291, Bucknife and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ccwebb 384 Posted December 14, 2018 4 hours ago, librarian101 said: So this is a generic force card. Can any force user use it? The card says on it the Dark Side, is there a dark side user only? Forgive me, I have been known to be dense before. I don’t understand you post here. Is there a new upgrade card called “generic force”? Also, I am only aware of Maul crew cars that states dark force cards. Am am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nspace 197 Posted December 14, 2018 There is a new Force card called "Hate" that is in the First Order Conversion Kit and looks like it will be in the Sith Infiltrator as well. It's deckbuilding restriction is "Dark Side". 1 JJ48 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderMana 1,184 Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Ccwebb said: Forgive me, I have been known to be dense before. I don’t understand you post here. Is there a new upgrade card called “generic force”? Also, I am only aware of Maul crew cars that states dark force cards. Am am I missing something? I know I saw at least one person wondering from the wording on Maul's card if there would be a new upgrade type for Dark Side, with a different symbol. I think that might be where your confusion is coming from. 2 hours ago, Rakaydos said: If Kanan was inside his own arc, this would be an amazing build. Shhh I'm still going to fly it 😜 And hey, maybe enough of it's pieces will get cheaper to make it viable for tournament play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RampancyTW 534 Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Rakaydos said: If Kanan was inside his own arc, this would be an amazing build. Dangit, just noticed that change from 1.0. Was about to go HAM with the Rebels theme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 7,742 Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, gadwag said: The only scum force user is Asajj, and she is a dark side user in the FFG app. ahem DARK SIDE IT IS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GILLIES291 530 Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Rakaydos said: If Kanan was inside his own arc, this would be an amazing build. But as is he still can't use it on himself which is more than half your squadron and therefore a garbage Ability. Sigh... we were so close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ccwebb 384 Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, librarian101 said: So this is a generic force card. Can any force user use it? The card says on it the Dark Side, is there a dark side user only? found my confusion. There is literally an upgrade card called “hate”! Makes so much more sense now. I thought you were saying “force hate”, as in “you hate the force” sorry my my stupidity. 2 CaptainJaguarShark and Marinealver reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 7,742 Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Ccwebb said: found my confusion. There is literally an upgrade card called “hate”! Makes so much more sense now. I thought you were saying “force hate”, as in “you hate the force” sorry my my stupidity. I'm pretty sure mentioning The Last Jedi as an upgrade card would invoke the same confusion. 2 mcintma and Ccwebb reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyxen 1,317 Posted December 14, 2018 19 hours ago, Hippie Moosen said: We can guess that the Republic will be Light and the CIS will be Dark. FROm My PoInT oF ViEw ThE JeDi ArE EvIl!! 1 1 Hippie Moosen and Marinealver reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icelom 3,156 Posted December 14, 2018 19 hours ago, Hippie Moosen said: Each faction will be considered either Light side or Dark side. Currently the Light side is the Rebellion and the Resistance, with the Dark side being the Empire, First Order, and Scum & Villainy. We can guess that the Republic will be Light and the CIS will be Dark. Right now the only way to put Dark side cards on Light side ships is to use Maul on either Ezra or Kanan in a Rebel build. Where is any of this listed in any rules? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderMana 1,184 Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Icelom said: Where is any of this listed in any rules? It’s not yet, apparently. But the app confirms it. 1 CaptainJaguarShark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
player3010587 655 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) MAUL PILOT. MAUL PILOT! Let's consider the other 3 force pilot in the game, Vader. Part of the fun of him is conserving his force charges to make the most of his ability. Maul on the other hand, will deplete them easily in 1 round due to his ability and mods. Even if you use it opportunely (which you did not sink all those points for), you will be losing 1 charge per turn net, leaving you dry for the round you really want that ability (double-tap by spending 2 force after attacking [can only attack the same target if you did not hit]). So he is interested in recharging. His ability is negative synergy with cloak (weapons disabled, but I am sure he will have nifty tricks with cloak, a la phantom movement shenanigans), which means when he attacks, his agility will be a paltry 1. He also has a lot of health. What does the game say about a lot of health and 1 agi? They bleed like crazy. But the card Hate silver-lines--in some cases rewards you--for bleeding out damage. And for a hyper-jouster like Maul, that is an amazing ability. Conceivably, he will be able to double-tap every turn, and I daresay that he will be very likely double-tap every turn that he either misses his first target or has 2 targets in arc. And come on! This is hyper-thematic. Darth Maul is powered by his overflowing hatred, moreso than any of the movie Siths, to the degree of self-damaging to fuel his power. And let us also consider the *garbage for Maul* alternative force powers: Supernatural Reflexes: out of the question with base size Predictive Shot: **** with large-base bullseye Brilliant Evasion: **** for most builds considering native 1 agi Heightened Perception: he is I5, does he need to jump further in line for shooting, drowning his ability's charges? Sense: meh. Instinctive aim: those torps otta be good with him having a 3 die primary and force! -Edits: Bonus round, let's see the additional advantages!- The threat of recharging Maul's hate will have a Quickdraw-like effect. Of course, the objective is to shoot him, but caution must be taken. Even without using the ability, you basically become Skywalker in recharging force being shot at. Most shots incoming will do damage. Edited December 14, 2018 by player3010587 1 SpiderMana reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lace Jetstreamer 238 Posted December 15, 2018 So how does an Empire only player get Hate? Oh, I have to wait until wave 5 or 6? Starting to feel a lot like autothrusters in 1.0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderMana 1,184 Posted December 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said: So how does an Empire only player get Hate? Oh, I have to wait until wave 5 or 6? Starting to feel a lot like autothrusters in 1.0. Psh, probably wave 4. 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
player3010587 655 Posted December 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said: So how does an Empire only player get Hate? Oh, I have to wait until wave 5 or 6? Starting to feel a lot like autothrusters in 1.0. Autothrusters were an autoinclude. Hate is a weird flex, but ok. 1 JJ48 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites