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[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

32 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

He is my Win condition but he can still die if he doesn't eat the Fruit I give him, if he eats it though he will be safe

My point is that could be a lie or otherwise incorrect.  Seeing as you believed you gave me fruit I didn’t get, and claimed to have given Ovino one more piece than he received.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

If Clon is telling true 100%

He started as Cleptomaniac. He changed to TT n1. He used his new power cause he got not only the role rather than also the win con. He lost the TT. The win con was kept but it is also added to each new TT so there is 3/4 who need me alive. The new TT is LP who, as town, didn't lie, but he wasn't. Neither victim is the TT so the TT is still in play. Clon got the FV from someone else who must be the TT now but LP's role was changed too and Matt couldn't do that cause he was  swapping TT<>FV. Also LTD said he was roleblocked and as town didn't lie. Mad could do that as per how LTD role works Mad did nothing. Again: WTF LP!!??

If Clon is lying he got the TT but never ever lost it. That would clarify the  LP issue but then how is he also the Fruit Vendor? He couldn't be at the beginning of Mad would be.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

2 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

My point is that could be a lie or otherwise incorrect.  Seeing as you believed you gave me fruit I didn’t get, and claimed to have given Ovino one more piece than he received.

One less.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

On the other side CNinja is the only one whith an unconfirmed role.

What's not 100% incriminating as per the number of people who cannot back him up anymore.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

If I ignore the LP thing for a while I can be sure about the following:

1. Clon says the true. The win con moves with the role. The role moved to CNinja as it never flipped. CNinja got the win con. CNinja cannot kill me.

2. Clon lies. The win con accessed the win con through the role but never got it. He is still the TT but he is also the FV somehow (??). Plausible explanation: he had two roles and Matt may only  swap one. He could still kill me and he even tried with fruit.

3. Same as two but getting the win con so he cannot kill me.

 

So...

We lynch Jabba. As dead he cannot be killed at night leaving only two targets to the remaining scum. Either one suspect dies or I do. If I die then Clon lies.

 

There is the chance of CNinja getting the TT but not the win con but that would be weird as the rules of role migration would look pretty random.

Does it have sense to you?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

Yes, sort of, but I really don’t feel good about lynching Jabba. 

Also, wtf, Folks have fruits, rabbits, time travel, and I get “Vigilate”. 

Now I know how Pod feels about me

Anyways, I’m cool with whatever you want Ovi, in my mind I won when I snagged Biggs. 

[PodRacer 1,077]

Rampant rabbit memes are strictly forbidden however - mod

[clontroper5 4,232]

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

If I ignore the LP thing for a while I can be sure about the following:

1. Clon says the true. The win con moves with the role. The role moved to CNinja as it never flipped. CNinja got the win con. CNinja cannot kill me.

2. Clon lies. The win con accessed the win con through the role but never got it. He is still the TT but he is also the FV somehow (??). Plausible explanation: he had two roles and Matt may only  swap one. He could still kill me and he even tried with fruit.

3. Same as two but getting the win con so he cannot kill me.

 

So...

We lynch Jabba. As dead he cannot be killed at night leaving only two targets to the remaining scum. Either one suspect dies or I do. If I die then Clon lies.

 

There is the chance of CNinja getting the TT but not the win con but that would be weird as the rules of role migration would look pretty random.

Does it have sense to you?

From my point of view I see this as 50/50 coin flip basically between Jabba and Cninja, and seeing that Jabba claims restless, as others have pointed out I agree he is the "Safest" bet.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

14 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

From my point of view I see this as 50/50 coin flip basically between Jabba and Cninja, and seeing that Jabba claims restless, as others have pointed out I agree he is the "Safest" bet.

So do you agree? Do we lynch Jabba, let CNinja kill you as he cannot kill me due to TT win con and then Jabba's spirit and me lynch him?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

“oh my god! lol” “they’re going after Cninj after he day killed biggs!” “they’re lynching the Vigilate!”

quotes from the observer doc in my mind.  

we deserve to lose if y’all lynch me after we snagged Ebon and Biggs. 

 

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

15 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

He also inturupted a important discussion which would have cleared no less then 3 town, (2 of which died that night) hmmm? I thought he was town but maybe not. I know Ebon LOVES Scum infighting to gain town cred, which is why Biggs attacked him so early day 1 and a possible reason Cnija used his ability against a teammate.

Although I still don't think he is a Scum (if he is he deserves a win) I am more suspect of jabba still. Let me reread your posts.

#vote clontroper5

This bugs me

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

36 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

“oh my god! lol” “they’re going after Cninj after he day killed biggs!” “they’re lynching the Vigilate!”

quotes from the observer doc in my mind.  

we deserve to lose if y’all lynch me after we snagged Ebon and Biggs. 

 

Hahaha

To be honest LP is what keeps my hand far from voting. I mean, no matter who is scum that piece never match 

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

You have a role that anyone submitted as far as we know and you're also a sneaky bastard.

Clon on the other side just made no sense. Too little sense to work as a decent scum cover. But **** it! It is working!

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

Bah whatever! I am actually tired so...

##vote Clon

But I am just 50-50 about it

@PodRacer I think it is hammer

 

[PodRacer 1,077]

@clontroper5 is called forwards by his peers.

Accused of being a fruit vending, time travelling little so and so.

 

Whats left of the mob descends on the hapless fruit vendor, frying pans in hand.

Clontroper5 has died, he was a mafia aligned fruit vendor.

Congratulations to town!

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Thanks guys.  For the record, my condition if you killed me is I would want to hammer Clon in the end.   I feel we’ve been led on a wild Bantha chase.

And if it’s somehow either of you... oh boy, have you earned it.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

gg folks

[PodRacer 1,077]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wljq-XUfK2_l9d16T0wWx78q9iquj12KSYP4yYSfom4/edit obs

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n6OehaZ_0zQrD65qr3vvRiDwlTC6aHPYLKU2MDZncu4/edit scumchat

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

I KNEW IT!   I KNEW THE LITTLE GUNDARK WAS THROWING THINGS AT THE WALL AND SEEING WHAT STUCK!

Clon, that was an impressive amount of misdirection.  I can’t wait to see us being called morons in the observers.

Good game everyone, it’s been a pleasure!  Thanks for setting this madness up Pod!

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

YOU NEVER SAID I WAS JOHN McCLANE!

 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Do we know who’s doing the next game?  I’ve got a scenario ready-ish, but I’ve taken more than my share of games lately so if any of you want to step up you should.

[PodRacer 1,077]

28 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

YOU NEVER SAID I WAS JOHN McCLANE!

 

I think given another 24-48 hrs setup time I would have gone a bit more flavour oriented in this one, but the mob was demanding to start ASAP!

 

[PodRacer 1,077]

How did you all enjoy the setup?

Would you submit super OP roles if it was to run again?

[Ginkapo 9,320]

I knew it was Clon and Ebon D1. Ebon for obvious reasons, Clon for his interactions with Ebon.

[Bertie Wooster 1,857]

3 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

“oh my god! lol” “they’re going after Cninj after he day killed biggs!” “they’re lynching the Vigilate!”

quotes from the observer doc in my mind.  

 

Yeah, I thought this game was going perfect for town, until clon was allowed to live longer than he should have.

Glad you guys got it in the end though!