Krennic and Deathtrooper article up

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

56 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

In his defense I've said the same thing with regards to the rogue one stuff being released as I disliked the movie.

Even I liked that movie... It's the only new film I saw three or four times in the theaters and own. I believe I've described it as "needs a PhD dissertation in American Film History to adequately describe how awesome it was". So I'm certainly not against releasing R1 models. But I think the release order from FFG is wonky as heck. Though I've also said, so I should probably try harder to cut FFG some slack, that release schedules are often dictated by factors beyond the company's control. It can be as simple as, an artist gets sick, misses a deadline, and someone else's finished side project has to be sent into production instead, etc.

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If this "overlap" was a bothersome to others as it was to you, then WOTC and the D20 system would still be popular today

I don't see how that follows, or maybe I don't understand what you mean. Regardless of popularity, what I recall from the time of cancellation was that Hasbro decided Lucasfilm was charging too much for the Star Wars miniatures license and dropped them. Hasbro seemed to be penny-pinching that game into the ground though, what with the quality of the sculpting and painting getting generally worse instead of better as time went on. The rules were problematic: too simple in theory, too convoluted in practice. It still had a good run as minis games go, nothing lasts forever.

 

30 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

Honestly it just sounds like @TauntaunScout is more interested in more diverse models to paint.

And models that lend themselves to assorted backstories, broad categories of play styles, and the like. Ie, it would have been more interesting to me if the first cheap generic commander had been released before the third expensive unique commander.

I all seriousness though if nothing else is forthcoming I'll probably convert a squad of the Death Troopers into imperial-hired "armored bounty hunters". Put rebel heads on them. Sell the headless rebel corpses on eBay for cheap? But it's going to be a very long time, in the world of hobbies, before these actually hit store shelves, so who knows. By then actual mercs of some sort may be announced.

Edited December 3, 2018 by TauntaunScout

[thepopemobile100 977]

1 minute ago, TauntaunScout said:

I don't see how that follows, or don't understand what you mean. Regardless of popularity, what I recall from the time of cancellation was that Hasbro decided Lucasfilm was charging too much for the Star Wars miniatures license and dropped them. Hasbro seemed to be penny-pinching that game into the ground though, what with the quality of the sculpting and painting getting generally worse instead of better as time went on. The rules were problematic: too simple in theory, too convoluted in practice. It still had a good run as minis games go, nothing lasts forever.

Is that what happened? I wouldn't have known as it as a good deal before my time

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

5 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

Is that what happened? I wouldn't have known as it as a good deal before my time

Yeah it died off 8 years ago, that was what I recall reading at the time but I may have read an inaccurate story on it. I didn't exactly dig too deep on the matter. I had so many zillions of the wee plastic blokes that I wasn't interested in keeping up with the new releases any more. And the nature of the rules kept it relegated to a sub-interest of mine. It did have the advantage that, like Heroscape, my wife would play it. Availability of an opponent is perhaps the most important factor in any game.

[thepopemobile100 977]

1 minute ago, TauntaunScout said:

Availability of an opponent is perhaps the most important factor in any game.

It really is. Interest in miniature games, including warhammer, is nonexistent here so I play whoever regardless of the state of their army

[VadersToothbrush 20]

Speaking of availability, when do you all think they will get around to releasing them?  Late January?

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

5 hours ago, Derrault said:

 

They’re support personnel or Naval Officers. Who are quite unlikely to get into a non-ship combat scenario.

 

We left "likely" and "unlikely" to appear behind, very early in this game's release schedule.

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

5 hours ago, Indy_com said:

Serious question:

Are you going to complain about everything released that isn't the original trilogy?

Serious answer: It depends. Some people seem to think the squad of wookies aren't OT enough but I liked them. Whereas some OT stuff I would still be annoyed by (commandos) due to their repetitive nature with previous figures. I really like the AT-RT model even though it's obviously not an OT thing. I painted 3 of them. The background of it really sells it for me.

It's all about getting good variety of literally and figuratively colorful stuff at this early stage of the miniatures line, for me. But, who knows what's going on behind the scenes.

Edited December 4, 2018 by TauntaunScout

[azeronbloodmoone 189]

10 minutes ago, VadersToothbrush said:

Speaking of availability, when do you all think they will get around to releasing them?  Late January?

current time line looks like this as far as their releases are plan by my guess
december: all about them wookies
january: support units
february: rebel release rogue one

march: imperial release rogue one.

[FlyingAnchors 4,600]

1 hour ago, thepopemobile100 said:

Early opinion is yes, but keep them away from most other spec ops, snipers and commanders that can actually fight

Just like the movie! 

Baze/Cassian took them out with ease, but they were terrifying to your average trooper.

[FlyingAnchors 4,600]

22 minutes ago, azeronbloodmoone said:

current time line looks like this as far as their releases are plan by my guess
december: all about them wookies
january: support units
february: rebel release rogue one

march: imperial release rogue one.

Well, given the holiday special, Wookiee’s celebrate life day at Christmas time in our universe, so a December release seems rather accurate. 

I wonder if rogue one content is the last hurrah for OT stuff for awhile, before they begin fleshing out clone wars stuff for legion, because by March/April it will have been almost a year since announcing clone wars for legion and X-wing, and only models for X-wing to show for it.

(I know the release schedule is actually rather fast compared to other game systems, especially with X-wing 2.0/ executor eating a lot of the production queue).

Edited December 4, 2018 by FlyingAnchors

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

38 minutes ago, VadersToothbrush said:

Speaking of availability, when do you all think they will get around to releasing them?  Late January?

Longer than that I'd guess. There's at least a half dozen other new items in the pipeline between us and them. Not counting supplementary things like gaming mats.

Edited December 4, 2018 by TauntaunScout

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

4 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

I wonder if rogue one content is the last hurrah for OT stuff for awhile, before they begin fleshing out clone wars stuff for legion, because by March/April it will have been almost a year since announcing clone wars for legion and X-wing, and only models for X-wing to show for it.

I think you're very smart to think of this. This might be the last GCW stuff we get for Legion for awhile, or at least the releases might slow down. I suspect Clone Wars will be debuted at Gencon (or somewhere similar) with two complete factions, ie, at least 6 products ready to sell at the event itself. 2 opposed commanders and corps, and 2 opposed-something-else. Support, extra commander, whatever.

[DarkTrooperZero 304]

I too also feel this may be the last bit of stuff for OT before clone wars.

The amount of releases and amount of units is pretty big already considering the games been out less than a year.

I could see some more iconic characters like r2d2 coming out but surely the releases schedule is set to slow down.

[Jabby 1,042]

Oh, the scuplts! Even better than the pathfinders 

[Jedhead 855]

31 minutes ago, Jabby said:

Oh, the scuplts! Even better than the pathfinders 

Yes, they are definitely bringing their A-game now as far as sculpts go.  The last few previews have been amazing compared to past releases.

As a Rebel player to the core, looking at "Ludicrously Lunging Leia" next to Krennic's simple yet elegant pose is liable to make me cry...

Edited December 4, 2018 by Jedhead

[VadersToothbrush 20]

Who knows, maybe they'll wait to see how clone wars does in X-wing first before taking the plunge in legion, maybe they'll hope to overwhelm people with enthusiasm. Although it might be a bit much for peoples pockets. FFG games are notably cheaper for what you get than some other brands, but they still aren't cheap. I was kinda hoping for some more vehicles like transports and shore or mud troopers, but hey im psyched we got death troopers that fast. Speaking of the Death Troopers, maybe I should learn to read. From the preview article:

"Look for the Director Orson Krennic Commander Expansion (SWL33) and the Imperial Death Troopers Unit Expansion (SWL34) at your local retailer in the first quarter of 2019. Pre-order your copy at your local retailer or online through our website here!"

So Q1 2019, January hopefully, Feb-ish probably.

[Jedhead 855]

9 minutes ago, VadersToothbrush said:

Who knows, maybe they'll wait to see how clone wars does in X-wing first before taking the plunge in legion, maybe they'll hope to overwhelm people with enthusiasm. Although it might be a bit much for peoples pockets. FFG games are notably cheaper for what you get than some other brands, but they still aren't cheap. I was kinda hoping for some more vehicles like transports and shore or mud troopers, but hey im psyched we got death troopers that fast. Speaking of the Death Troopers, maybe I should learn to read. From the preview article:

"Look for the Director Orson Krennic Commander Expansion (SWL33) and the Imperial Death Troopers Unit Expansion (SWL34) at your local retailer in the first quarter of 2019. Pre-order your copy at your local retailer or online through our website here!"

So Q1 2019, January hopefully, Feb-ish probably.

End of March most likely.  The very end. 😁

Edited December 4, 2018 by Jedhead

[VadersToothbrush 20]

3 minutes ago, Jedhead said:

End of March most likely.  The very end. 😁

Don't do this to me.

[JediPartisan 810]

When the Deathtroopers finally come out, it’s going to be Scout Trooper who (with exception of sniper strike team)?

Do they have enough weapons?

E130 Granade Launcher Config (range 1-2, 1 red each, and taps)

Something that is a unique mini (only 1 per army) range 1-3 and becomes the leader of the unit

Another DLT range 1-4 with Impact

 Not to mention the three native weapons:

Melee: 1 red each

SE-14s: 2 white each, range 1-2 (making them better than Fleet Troopers)

E110: 1 black each, range 1-3

[thepopemobile100 977]

33 minutes ago, VadersToothbrush said:

Don't do this to me.

You can take it up with FFG if it'd make you feel better. But I believe that there's a phrase about beating a dead horse that applies here

[VadersToothbrush 20]

13 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

You can take it up with FFG if it'd make you feel better. But I believe that there's a phrase about beating a dead horse that applies here

Release schedule conjectures are built on hope.

[Jedhead 855]

22 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:

SE-14s: 2 white each, range 1-2 (making them better than Fleet Troopers)

 

At range 1-2 they will be strictly worse than fleets, will they not?  They will have identical damage output per model, but with a smaller unit size and a much higher point cost.  They will also suffer badly when hit by pierce from the scattergun.  They will certainly have durability in their favor, but I don't know that it would swing the results enough, particularly since they would be outnumbered almost 2-1 if the points were equal.

Fleet troopers will likely be more cost effective if they make it in and start trading blows with them at range 2. 

[azeronbloodmoone 189]

13 minutes ago, Jedhead said:

At range 1-2 they will be strictly worse than fleets, will they not?  They will have identical damage output per model, but with a smaller unit size and a much higher point cost.  They will also suffer badly when hit by pierce from the scattergun.  They will certainly have durability in their favor, but I don't know that it would swing the results enough, particularly since they would be outnumbered almost 2-1 if the points were equal.

Fleet troopers will likely be more cost effective if they make it in and start trading blows with them at range 2. 

upgraded fleet trooper 78-88 points either 12 white dice 1 black and ignore cover or 10 white dice and 2 red dice pierce 1. i put money on fleet winning that fight over D.T.

[thepopemobile100 977]

14 minutes ago, Jedhead said:

At range 1-2 they will be strictly worse than fleets, will they not?  They will have identical damage output per model, but with a smaller unit size and a much higher point cost.  They will also suffer badly when hit by pierce from the scattergun.  They will certainly have durability in their favor, but I don't know that it would swing the results enough, particularly since they would be outnumbered almost 2-1 if the points were equal.

Fleet troopers will likely be more cost effective if they make it in and start trading blows with them at range 2. 

I never bothered to bring that up as fleet troopers are the nigh undisputed kings of close combat and eat almost anything without fuss

[azeronbloodmoone 189]

4 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

I never bothered to bring that up as fleet troopers are the nigh undisputed kings of close combat and eat almost anything without fuss

i take your fleet against bobba or flame troopers :-D.