faceup province question

[Kazasaky 0]

I have a question when I read the unicorn pack spoiler.

I wonder if faceup province contains broken province.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Kazasaky

[sndwurks 1,257]

RRG, PG 14, Reveal: When a province is revealed by a card effect, it remains face-up until a card or game effect turns it face-down.

Breaking a Province (pg 3) does not mention turning a broken Province face-down.

Battle step 3.2 (pg 22) turns a facedown Province face-up. Battle step 3.2.5 (pg 22) does not turn a face-up Province face-down.

As such, the status of whether a Province is face-up or face-down is separate entirely from its status of whether it is broken or not. So, a face-up broken Province is both a face-up province and a broken province. These statuses are independent of each other, which means that a card COULD turn a face-up Province face-down. But no such card exists at present.

Mind you, a face-down broken Province would still be broken, and thus not a legal target for a Conflict. You could still reveal it through a Border Fortress, but if you did so, as a broken province its text would be inactive, and thus it could not activate any Actions on revealing it.

[Kazasaky 0]

i got it.

thank you for your guidance!

[Eisenmerc 27]

So just to clarify with Shiro Shinjo; does its reaction factor in broken provinces? Does the opponent 'control' a broken province?

If so this is a very powerful ability that can easily pull down 10 fate a turn.

[Schmoozies 1,374]

1 hour ago, Eisenmerc said:

So just to clarify with Shiro Shinjo; does its reaction factor in broken provinces? Does the opponent 'control' a broken province?

If so this is a very powerful ability that can easily pull down 10 fate a turn.

Yes nothing in breaking a province changes the state from controlled or face up so you would still claim fate from it as Unicorn.