So Ved is not Juno

[X Wing Nut 2,235]

so does Ved really suck?

If you dial in a 1 straight or a 3 bank you can not use his ability?

does not make make 1 straight blue anymore?

is this true one of the players in our group has been flying him the way you would fly Juno from 1.0 but after reading the card it looks like this is not so.

Just when you think the tie advanced had a chance  

Edited November 22, 2018 by X Wing Nut

[thespaceinvader 15,738]

Ved works exactly the same as juno did. What makes you think otherwise?

[thespaceinvader 15,738]

While you execute a maneuver, you may execute a maneuver of the same bearing and difficulty of a speed 1 higher or lower instead.

Same bearing and difficulty different speed. So 2 straight blue becomes 1 straight blue 2 bank blue becomes 1 or 3 bank blue 2 turn white becomes 1 or 3 turn white etc.

Still in a terrible ship tho.

[X Wing Nut 2,235]

 

2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Ved works exactly the same as juno did. What makes you think otherwise?

"the same bearing and difficulty of a speed 1 higher or lower instead"

[muribundi 383]

1 hour ago, X Wing Nut said:

 

"the same bearing and difficulty of a speed 1 higher or lower instead"

Still fail to see how it is different then before?!? 

[thespaceinvader 15,738]

2 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

 

"the same bearing and difficulty of a speed 1 higher or lower instead"

The manoeuvre you execute shares the bearing and difficulty of the one you reveal. Its speed is the only thing that changes.

It's functionality identical to juno's ability just phrased in a differently confusing way.

[GuacCousteau 1,223]

Yeah, they really should have used the word 'at' there. 

"While you execute a maneuver, you may execute a maneuver of the same bearing and difficulty at a speed 1 higher or lower instead."

It still makes sense the way they wrote it, it's just less obvious there's a break in clauses there

"...you may execute a maneuver of the same bearing and difficulty; of a speed 1 higher or lower instead." Is how it should be read with the current wording. 

[muribundi 383]

It is not confusing, Speed 1 does not have a default bearing and difficulty !? The sentence is impossible to read and find a meaning if it was: "the same bearing and difficulty of a speed 1; Higher or Lower instead"

[thespaceinvader 15,738]

I understand the confusion, honest.

 

If you parse it this way:

While you execute a maneuver, you may execute a maneuver of the same bearing and difficulty of a [manouevre of] speed 1 higher or lower [from your dial] instead.

Which would be almost useless.

[Icelom 3,175]

9 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

so does Ved really suck?

If you dial in a 1 straight or a 3 bank you can not use his ability?

does not make make 1 straight blue anymore?

is this true one of the players in our group has been flying him the way you would fly Juno from 1.0 but after reading the card it looks like this is not so.

Just when you think the tie advanced had a chance  

well it works identical to juno...

The reason he sucks (and all none vader tie advanced) is because they need a TL to be good, and they have no good way to get one initially or change it latter in combat they end up giving up needed defensive or re positioning actions in order to make there offense not equivalent to a much cheaper tie fighter.

[Green Knight 8,251]

2 hours ago, Icelom said:

well it works identical to juno...

The reason he sucks (and all none vader tie advanced) is because they need a TL to be good, and they have no good way to get one initially or change it latter in combat they end up giving up needed defensive or re positioning actions in order to make there offense not equivalent to a much cheaper tie fighter.

There is always Jendon.

But yeah, the x1 wants to do many things at once, and doesn't excel at anything.

[X Wing Nut 2,235]

thanks for clearing it up guys

[Arma Quattro 440]

Try 3 ps2 Advanceds with FCS along whisper with vader...

After the first turn in which they will lock they become friggin' killing machines.