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On page 300 in the Core Rulebook, Table 7-1, it talks about Attribute ranks for forfeiting honour.  I can't for the life of me find what that is referring to.  Can someone help me out?

Also, as an aside, if a PC refuses to bow to his daimyo when meeting to them for the first time, what kind of honour/glory loss would they be looking at?

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2 hours ago, TheBoulder said:

Also, as an aside, if a PC refuses to bow to his daimyo when meeting to them for the first time, what kind of honour/glory loss would they be looking at?

If they're aware who the Daimyo is and are actively refusing to bow - rather than just "who's that guy with the stupid hairdo? What? Oh, bugger" - then it's either "Directly Insulting someone of Higher Status" or "Directly Insulting your Lord" (depending on whether they're sworn directly to the Daimyo or 'their lord' is some intervening noble).

In the former case it's a Major Breach of Rei (Courtesy) - which would cost you about double your honour rank (so if you were honour 40 that's 8 points of honour - 16 for a Crane, 4 for a Crab or Unicorn), in the latter case it's a Massive Breach, worth triple your rank (24 honour for a Crane, 12 for most clans, 6 for Crab or Unicorn).

 

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