Guinuav 0 Posted November 3, 2018 So guys, you know that it has been like 2 years if i recall correctly since the last expansion for descent 2E. What should we expect from FFG and more important, what do we WANT ? For me, I want: 1) a campaign that uses all components from a variety of expansions. 2) shorter campaigns. (rumor quests just make the game last so much longer and you get confused with the different stories and travelling like from the city of Nerekhall to Trollfens' swamps etc, my friend and I tried campaigns without the use of rumor cards but in the end we figured out that they are needed for a balanced game) 3) At last FFG, plz correct your quest vault. Some map tiles appear fewer than they really are in the box. At the moment i wrote this topic, these 3 were the only ones i could find out i WANT. It would be nice for other descent players to also comment on what they want to see. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 4, 2018 A campaign book or two would be awsome I want a Druid class healer with morph abilities like in diablo 2 Werewolves as monsters Uthuk expansion More non human heroes 1 Watercolour Dragon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadgit 592 Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) Zaltyre, Painkeeper any myself are currently putting together a community expansion. We are in the play-testing stage at the moment. The working title is Weapons of War as it includes Zaltyre's great mini campaign of the same name. Weapons of War will be an expansion to D2e very similar to the official small box expansions (Trollfens, Lair of the Wyrm, etc.). It will include high quality, thoroughly play-tested components developed by the community. Obviously, we will not ship physical components. However, we will provide all the digital materials needed together with detailed instructions for how to obtain physical stuff (e.g. cards via printerstudio, minis from Reaper Bones, etc.). As we will not be able to add new map tiles, Weapons of War will include a new, challenging coop variant as an alternative play mode instead. This coop mode is called Road to Peril and will allow playing the Weapons of War and the Heirs of Blood campaigns without a human OL.List of components: 2 new heroes (1 healer and 1 mage) 2 new classes 2 new monsters 1 new condition 1 new mini campaign (Weapons of War) 1 new search deck components for Road to Peril 1 rule book Edited November 5, 2018 by Sadgit 10 2 tibia, any2cards, leewroy and 9 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerDelphi 265 Posted November 4, 2018 This sounds great :) Really looking forward to this. 1 Sadgit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watercolour Dragon 391 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sadgit said: As we will not be able to add new map tiles, .... It might be possible to do some printable maps if anyone has the digital art skills needed- I'm not sure I could do it as I work more with individual photos/images but there's certainly that possibility to make some maps to use instead of tiles (or of course where available tiles do fit and a map can be made from them using existing tiles) There would be two ways to do the art on such maps- either digitally drawing it if somebody's talented enough or you could photograph real world terrain and work that into map terrain although you'd probably need some other digital art skills to add what you'd need to make this work. I have some first edition tiles too- as these are no longer available scanning these could be another option for DIY map grids. Finally on new content I too am working on new stuff- quite a lot of it- going to take a couple of years as it's a massive undertaking (it's a full epic campaign taking in much of the lore of Mennara and it's entities and characters, in two forms - one for Descent and one for Genesys RPG). The plan is to work on one module at a time so it's released in stages over the next few years then after any feedback and playtesting info it can be refined into a final complete version- so there should be new stuff for Descent in future whatever FFG do with it! I've also been working on/ will be working on some ideas with some other forum users, such as developing and improving Rugal's 'Ascension of Margath' campaign based on that story from Runebound and some other possibilities such as bringing the Descent 1 campaigns I have into D2e with improvements where needed and other projects to port concepts and entities/characters from other Terrinoth games into modules for Genesys RPG or Descent adventures. Rugal's quite keen along with myself to develop something with the Uthuk as they've not popped up much in Descent or Genesys sessions. Whilst my projects are being designed to fit together as part of a whole with an over-arching storyline about Mennara's next darkness each module will be playable as a standalone so people can pick and choose what most appeals. My storyline's exploring a war-riven Mennara still divided and very much destroyed by years of conflict where it's a bit of a coming together of the evils of Tarakhe (plague and ill health), Waiqar (death and destruction) and the Uthuk (tainted blood and corruption). Can the heroes unpick the facts and fiction behind this 'next darkness' and save Mennara from its oncoming demise? If I can I'm going to have a seasonally apt module for Genesys RPG 'The Bleakest Winter' taking the heroes into the chill lands of Isheim out soon, which I then hope to convert to a Descent adventure as well. It will take longer to do the Descent conversions of these modules though due to converting things to work within the game (which they may not at first so there may be a need for some playtest tweaking for balance and enjoyable gameplay). I'm juggling quite a heavy home workload at the moment too, so bear with me if my projects take time, time can be more of an enemy than Terrinoth's fiercest adversaries! They are under development even when I'm not posting updates on my progress with the project. Edited November 5, 2018 by Watercolour Dragon grabbing some text to paste 2 alexbobspoons and DerDelphi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watercolour Dragon 391 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) A little teaser- who might this be acting as the heroes' guide and scout? https://adobe.ly/2yQAwxq Updated- realised earlier link was just for me! Edited November 5, 2018 by Watercolour Dragon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadgit 592 Posted November 5, 2018 It's really encouraging that the community will keep this outstanding game alive even if FFG seems to be no longer interested. Looking forward to your custom content, Watercolour Dragon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) On 11/4/2018 at 9:08 PM, Sadgit said: Zaltyre, Painkeeper any myself are currently putting together a community expansion. We are in the play-testing stage at the moment. The working title is Weapons of War as it includes Zaltyre's great mini campaign of the same name. Weapons of War will be an expansion to D2e very similar to the official small box expansions (Trollfens, Lair of the Wyrm, etc.). It will include high quality, thoroughly play-tested components developed by the community. Obviously, we will not ship physical components. However, we will provide all the digital materials needed together with detailed instructions for how to obtain physical stuff (e.g. cards via printerstudio, minis from Reaper Bones, etc.). As we will not be able to add new map tiles, Weapons of War will include a new, challenging coop variant as an alternative play mode instead. This coop mode is called Road to Peril and will allow playing the Weapons of War and the Heirs of Blood campaigns without a human OL.List of components: 2 new heroes (1 healer and 1 mage) 2 new classes 2 new monsters 1 new condition 1 new mini campaign (Weapons of War) 1 new search deck components for Road to Peril 1 rule book Need some help ? for heroes, have you made some with hero forge ? Edited November 6, 2018 by rugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watercolour Dragon 391 Posted November 6, 2018 Zaltyre and co: any teasers on where your adventures might be taking us or what we'll encounter on them (or are you being as secretive as FFG? ) No spoilers but just a taste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leewroy 132 Posted November 7, 2018 I'm particulary interested in what the new condition will be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zaltyre 1,701 Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) For starters, it's Sadgit and Co. I'm just along for the ride, he's doing the majority of the work. As far as teasers, check out the weapons of war mini campaign to get a look at a preliminary form of the quests (they're getting refined a bit). I'm a huge fan of the new classes. Edited November 7, 2018 by Zaltyre Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 7, 2018 Really curious to see the new classes, even if, of course, i'm already a big fan of my own druid's class ? but for the mage, I really want to see what it could be, i haven't found a good one myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadgit 592 Posted November 7, 2018 My feeling is the classes (especially the mage class) will still change quite a bit during play-testing. So no teasers here at this point. The expansion will have a desert theme. However, as we are not including an new map tiles, theme will be a bit limited. At the moment we are focussing mainly on the mechanisc aspects of the expansion and I think that no-one of us is really deep into Terrinoth lore. So, yes, we could need some help in this department. @leewroy Here you go: 1 leewroy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Fun idea but isn't it a bit strong ? Already missing on a "2" (and a X) is already really powerfull I'm not sure to be "deep" in Terrinoth lore, but I do have some knowledge about it, so I may be of some use Edited November 7, 2018 by rugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zaltyre 1,701 Posted November 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, rugal said: Fun idea but isn't it a bit strong ? Already missing on a "2" (and a X) is already really powerfull I'm not sure to be "deep" in Terrinoth lore, but I do have some knowledge about it, so I may be of some use Blinded is not supposed to be a fun condition to have. That being said, it's fairly simple to discard, and it can be completely ignored unless you're trying to attack. 2 Sadgit and Erik Burigo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davi 5 Posted November 8, 2018 Yes, and if you have some rerolls you can also risk an attack, which will have a significant chance of hitting. Very nice condition, very creative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
any2cards 2,508 Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sadgit said: My feeling is the classes (especially the mage class) will still change quite a bit during play-testing. So no teasers here at this point. The expansion will have a desert theme. However, as we are not including an new map tiles, theme will be a bit limited. At the moment we are focussing mainly on the mechanisc aspects of the expansion and I think that no-one of us is really deep into Terrinoth lore. So, yes, we could need some help in this department. @leewroy Here you go: I like the idea ... I just wonder how it will play out ... Especially with heroes with an Awareness of 1 ... it could be extremely difficult to get rid of ... I would be concerned of a NPE because of it. Thinking of Rendiel, Challara, Alys Raine, Grisban the Thirsty, and Sir Valadir. A value of 1 only has a 4 out of 36 chance of passing (11%). Not to mention the plethora of heroes with an Awareness of 2, which only has an 8 out of 36 chance of passing (22%). Obviously, the majority of Heroes that are Scouts will have little trouble passing. I will be interested to see what actual play testing finds ... EDIT: I actually wonder, thematically, if it would make more sense for it to be a miss on an X, 2, and 3 if your attack is ranged, but perhaps just a miss on an X and 2 if your attack is melee (it should be easier to hit something blinded when you are adjacent to it). And perhaps it is a miss only on an X if you have Reach. Just a thought. Edited November 8, 2018 by any2cards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watercolour Dragon 391 Posted November 8, 2018 Maybe there's a way to counter for weaker heroes- some way other senses could compensate, or find a roll that is balanced for all characters maybe not a test roll, just some thoughts. I've been delving very deep into the lore so can probably help with any questions. Descent 2 is certainly lacking certain landscapes- no desert tiles (going from memory having just searched for snowy ones) and only one snowy tile- so still thinking of trying to photoshop something, will have to get out with the camera if we get any snow this winter! Desert might be trickier in the UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 8, 2018 I had tought of a condition like this one about the "eye" test and like adding 3 range to hit the target, but it would be like giving stealthy to all monsters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadgit 592 Posted November 9, 2018 If Zaltyre agrees, I think it would be really good if someone into the lore could go through the introduction texts of the Weapon of War quests add a bit more to the desert theme that we are aiming for. We also need some shorter fluff text for the backsides of the hero sheets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 9, 2018 If you need someone, I offer myself, if you all agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadgit 592 Posted November 9, 2018 Great. PM sent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicrealm 57 Posted November 10, 2018 i give a new addon for descent 2 zero chance. I give a 3rd edition 33 % chance, but only 25% that this 3rd edition will be a good one 1 rugal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugal 583 Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, magicrealm said: i give a new addon for descent 2 zero chance. I give a 3rd edition 33 % chance, but only 25% that this 3rd edition will be a good one Same here ! Even if it's bad because I'm sure stuff does still exist for this game. The 3rd edition will have a heavy burden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watercolour Dragon 391 Posted November 11, 2018 I can help with filling in the lore too. Al-Kalim is the main desert location and there's plenty on it in the Realms of Terrinoth Genesys sourcebook which I have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites