[MAFIA] Escape from Thabeska - Day Three

[BrobaFett 4,209]

Good game town - I was for sure thinking I was deserving of a lynch - but you can read in scum chat I was just..... bad this game in general for both sides haha.

Sorry again for that.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, BrobaFett said:

Good game town - I was for sure thinking I was deserving of a lynch - but you can read in scum chat I was just..... bad this game in general for both sides haha.

Sorry again for that.

No worries, I'm just glad my reads of you being scum were true ahhaah

Hopefully see you in the next one, townmarining  

[EbonHawk 1,243]

If Broba nad Jabba die early in the game it wasn't me.... unless pod dies N3 then probably is me 

[BrobaFett 4,209]

11 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

No worries, I'm just glad my reads of you being scum were true ahhaah

Hopefully see you in the next one, townmarining  

I'll have to think long and hard about it.

 

My wife has been out of town for this entire game, and I figured that would make things easier on me since no hassling me about being on the phone (the primary reason I can't play). Vastly underestimated the increase in my childrens neediness with only 1 parent though.

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

5 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

If Broba nad Jabba die early in the game it wasn't me.... unless pod dies N3 then probably is me 

I'm actually ready to mod the next one, unless anyone else is interested?  With this game fresh I worry you guys will kill me way quicker.  Imagine if I actually draw Cop...

[clontroper5 4,232]

Man this is a long thread. Lol ok gave up following it like 300 posts ago!

[Caldias 2,209]

Thanks guys!  Had fun modding!

[Lord Preyer 556]

I’ve vented my spleen in Observers so will try to be more... restrained here  as I reflect my own lessons learned for Town:

- killing when there’s nearly a full 48hrs left without waiting for a response/defence from the player is both bad strategy and poor etiquette!

- if a player is pushing an immediate lynch (including with a vote at the very start of the day!) when there is that much time left that push should be judged as suspicious - not as an invitation for Town to race to a lynch

- trying to win by ‘maths-ing’ it out alone is not advisable. There are too many variables (docs that can self heal multiple times, Godfathers, even the potential for moderators to change rules mid game). I confess to being guilty of this not just in this game but quite frequently and will try to learn accordingly.

- A better approach is to read the players posts and make reads on scuminess versus towniness (cf. Jabba vs LP ) and use the maths element to support the case or strategy - but don’t depend on a logic/elimination path alone 

- Speaking of which, if a player has gone to the time and trouble of compiling huge post lists it is a good idea to use them! Had this been done then Jabba’s outright inconsistency of claimed scans would have been noted! (And again, if you don’t want to reread it yourself, then perhaps wait for the person who did the repost and reread to comment ) 

- and finally, for all of that, the sheer chutzpah, the wonderous braggadocio and the killer speed of @The Jabbawookie are to be admired, feared and learned from. Congratulations Scum. 

Thank you @Caldias for a twisted game! We would expect nothing less from you sir!

[PodRacer 1,077]

I think the biggest mystery in all this is weather @BrobaFett shaves his chest north to south or east to west...

 

I guess we may never know!!

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

14 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

Jabba’s outright inconsistency of claimed scans would have been noted!

Where was this slip?  My fumbling attempts to kill Matt after ruling him to be town?

[Lord Preyer 556]

13 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Where was this slip?  My fumbling attempts to kill Matt after ruling him to be town?

You claimed you scanned Mads at one point then you claimed you scanned other players later on

[EbonHawk 1,243]

37 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

I’ve vented my spleen in Observers so will try to be more... restrained here  as I reflect my own lessons learned for Town:

- killing when there’s nearly a full 48hrs left without waiting for a response/defence from the player is both bad strategy and poor etiquette!

- if a player is pushing an immediate lynch (including with a vote at the very start of the day!) when there is that much time left that push should be judged as suspicious - not as an invitation for Town to race to a lynch

- trying to win by ‘maths-ing’ it out alone is not advisable. There are too many variables (docs that can self heal multiple times, Godfathers, even the potential for moderators to change rules mid game). I confess to being guilty of this not just in this game but quite frequently and will try to learn accordingly.

- A better approach is to read the players posts and make reads on scuminess versus towniness (cf. Jabba vs LP ) and use the maths element to support the case or strategy - but don’t depend on a logic/elimination path alone 

- Speaking of which, if a player has gone to the time and trouble of compiling huge post lists it is a good idea to use them! Had this been done then Jabba’s outright inconsistency of claimed scans would have been noted! (And again, if you don’t want to reread it yourself, then perhaps wait for the person who did the repost and reread to comment ) 

- and finally, for all of that, the sheer chutzpah, the wonderous braggadocio and the killer speed of @The Jabbawookie are to be admired, feared and learned from. Congratulations Scum. 

Thank you @Caldias for a twisted game! We would expect nothing less from you sir!

Tbf I did make the case for both scum from D2 and it fell on deaf ears town wise...

Chalk this one up as a bad game and hope for better towning and worse scuming next one

[EbonHawk 1,243]

14 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Where was this slip?  My fumbling attempts to kill Matt after ruling him to be town?

the slip was claiming cop at all, how no one else picked you up for it...

I feel sorry for the next late counter claim ahahah

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, EbonHawk said:

the slip was claiming cop at all, how no one else picked you up for it...

I feel sorry for the next late counter claim ahahah

That's only a mistake if you can tell me any other way out of L-2 with a claim request and under an hour on the clock.

But yeah, next time I claim cop first haha

Edited November 14, 2018 by The Jabbawookie

[Madaghmire 7,274]

I just wanna share this, cuz Jabba had the same reaction I did after seeing my condition in observers. This is my pm to cal after d2;

On 11/10/2018 at 9:07 PM, Madaghmire said:

Oh **** this is awesome. Part of me wants to pay them all back for letting me live by outing Jabba, who is obviously lying. But I think they’ll nail him anyway and waste time killing me instead of listening if I come back.

##sign Black Suns Contract

 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Just now, The Jabbawookie said:

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That's only a mistake if you can tell me any other way out of L-2 with a claim request and under an hour on the clock.

The slip was on you for a 2nd cop claim, the mistake is from town for not lynching when I called it 

[Madaghmire 7,274]

1 minute ago, The Jabbawookie said:

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That's only a mistake if you can tell me any other way out of L-2 with a claim request and under an hour on the clock.

Closed setup right? Watcher.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

Just now, EbonHawk said:

The slip was on you for a 2nd cop claim, the mistake is from town for not lynching when I called it 

Yeah I thought for absolutely certain when that claim dropped it was over for Jabba. And I was pissed at the time cuz I had thought the train might still find its way to LTD.

[Lord Preyer 556]

On 11/12/2018 at 3:14 PM, Lord Preyer said:

  On 11/11/2018 at 12:33 AM, The Jabbawookie said:

Scum read on Matt, btw.  I couldn't get any read on Mads.

Here’s the Mads scan claim that gets replaced with other claims later. 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

On 11/10/2018 at 4:33 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

Scum read on Matt, btw.  I couldn't get any read on Mads.

 

On 11/11/2018 at 9:39 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

Nice, a freebie!  The voices in my head say Ebon is scum.  Don’t listen to them. 

Although we do need to talk about Ebon.  If we don’t kill him we’re at lylo right now.  Which might be okay given what we have to work with.  Process of elimination says scum is Broba and LP, but I’d personally like another night so we can scan them both.  CV, what did you turn up?

 

On 11/13/2018 at 11:03 AM, The Jabbawookie said:

LP got a "town" reading.

 

On 11/13/2018 at 12:26 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

Oh, and each result:

You: scum

Matt: scum

LP: town

I claimed to have 4 reads total: a pregame on Mads (no read), then Matt (scum), Ebon (scum) and LP (town.)  Mads was left out at the end because he was confirmed to be what he said he was.  That might have been a poor choice to exclude, but I would have done the same thing had I been telling the truth.

The pregame, no read working out was dumb luck.  I'm a pretty terrible liar under pressure, but GNiPs and Ebon provided the reasoning.  That's one for LP's list: don't put words in a suspect's mouth.  They'll know what you believe to be most plausible.

Edited November 14, 2018 by The Jabbawookie

[PodRacer 1,077]

##vote Jabba

[EbonHawk 1,243]

52 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

 

 

 

I claimed to have 4 reads total: a pregame on Mads (no read), then Matt (scum), Ebon (scum) and LP (town.)  Mads was left out at the end because he was confirmed to be what he said he was.  That might have been a poor choice to exclude, but I would have done the same thing had I been telling the truth.

The pregame, no read working out was dumb luck.  I'm a pretty terrible liar under pressure, but GNiPs and Ebon provided the reasoning.  That's one for LP's list: don't put words in a suspect's mouth.  They'll know what you believe to be most plausible.

Just proves what I said at the time, late claims should always be a policy lynch. Otherwise town wastes valuable time, and it sets a dangerous precedent for future games to allow scum such planning when fake claiming.

[Caldias 2,209]

Thanks to Mads for modding!

[Lord Preyer 556]

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

Just proves what I said at the time, late claims should always be a policy lynch. Otherwise town wastes valuable time, and it sets a dangerous precedent for future games to allow scum such planning when fake claiming.

 But you believed him enough to vote with him later on! ?

[Lord Preyer 556]

38 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Thanks to Mads for modding!

Thank you Mads! The only player to play as Town whilst being third party who also helped kill Town and then ascended to Modhood all in the same game!