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We had a heated discussion with my friend can all abilities which trigger when in "arc" or "firing arc" can be used with mobile AND primary arc so, that you could cover two of the four arcs?

 

For example Jan Ors´ pilot ability, does "firing arc" include the turret arc in addition with the primary arc?

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

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1 hour ago, Pretty Green said:

We had a heated discussion with my friend can all abilities which trigger when in "arc" or "firing arc" can be used with mobile AND primary arc so, that you could cover two of the four arcs?

 

For example Jan Ors´ pilot ability, does "firing arc" include the turret arc in addition with the primary arc?

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Mobile arcs are firing arcs. A ship such as a Moldy Crow HWK has a forward arc and a mobile arc and any ship in either arc is considered to be in arc/in firing arc.

To take it a step forward, a ship with a bowtie arc facing sideways and forward arc munitions such as torpedoes as missiles has three active arcs covering more than 270 degrees, and anyone in any of those arcs is considered to be "in arc."

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45 minutes ago, nexttwelveexits said:

Mobile arcs are firing arcs. A ship such as a Moldy Crow HWK has a forward arc and a mobile arc and any ship in either arc is considered to be in arc/in firing arc.

To take it a step forward, a ship with a bowtie arc facing sideways and forward arc munitions such as torpedoes as missiles has three active arcs covering more than 270 degrees, and anyone in any of those arcs is considered to be "in arc."

Incorrect.

Arcs are defined as primary weapons on ship cards and upgrades (Only moldy crow for now), and all turret arcs. Non turret special weapons do not have active arcs for the purposes of whether something is in an arc or not.

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48 minutes ago, nexttwelveexits said:

To take it a step forward, a ship with a bowtie arc facing sideways and forward arc munitions such as torpedoes as missiles has three active arcs covering more than 270 degrees, and anyone in any of those arcs is considered to be "in arc."

that is not true. torpedoes wont give you the forward arc. see:

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5 minutes ago, Pretty Green said:

I´m a bit confused now. Isn´t the (primary) torpedo arc an arc too?

only primary and turret weapons contribute to your firings arcs. see my screenshot of "firings arcs" in the rules reference.

the torpedoes attack arc is not a firing arc.

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5 minutes ago, Pretty Green said:

I´m a bit confused now. Isn´t the (primary) torpedo arc an arc too?

Ships without a forward primary arc (e.g. YT-1300, K-wing) do not have a shaded forward arc. Equipping a torpedo allows you to fire out of the forward arc, but it does not turn the forward arc into a firing arc for the purposes of abilities that trigger when something is "in your firing arc."

Note that you can still fire equipped missiles and torpedoes out of your forward arc, even if it isn't classified as a "firing arc" for rules purposes.

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