Are the newer IA miniatures the same size of legion

[mulletcheese 669]

I just opened the latest expansion and the miniatures are huge compared to the rest of the IA range. 

Has the size increased to match legion?

[a1bert 3,991]

They probably are not the same size, but the scale has crept up a bit during the last few waves.

 

[mulletcheese 669]

 the size has gone up by more than a bit.

 

[Master Wang 85]

Oh wow!  The cyborg is a giant!  Any chance of a shot of a storm trooper next to a death trooper?

[mulletcheese 669]

Here you go:

 

[mulletcheese 669]

Sorry about the picture quality. I'm using a kindle fire.

[thestag 597]

1 hour ago, mulletcheese said:

 the size has gone up by more than a bit.

 

Do you integrate those into Scythe? Instead of mechs you get IA heroes? Or do they replace the workers and the mechs are AT-STs, Rancors, etc? Probably need the large board expansion. ?

[a1bert 3,991]

Saska is a small woman like Jyn, and Tress isn't human. Death Troopers are selected to be tall.

(Compare Biv and Saska from the same boxed expansion.)

It doesn't really matter to me other than larger is easier to paint.

[mulletcheese 669]

It matters to me because I've avoided buying the legion models because of the size difference. If newer IA models are the same (or similar) scale to legion then I may have to buy some.

[sionnach19 121]

I've been wondering this about the new Legion Boba Fett model. The IA version is a little on the scrawny side, and if the Legion model doesn't look that outlandish I'd be tempted to use him instead. Anyone have a picture of the Legion Boba next to some IA figures (heroes, storm troopers, old Boba, etc.)?

[NeverBetTheFett 1,514]

3 hours ago, mulletcheese said:

It matters to me because I've avoided buying the legion models because of the size difference. If newer IA models are the same (or similar) scale to legion then I may have to buy some.

There's lots where I live. 50% off too!

 

4 hours ago, a1bert said:

Saska is a small woman like Jyn, and Tress isn't human. Death Troopers are selected to be tall.

(Compare Biv and Saska from the same boxed expansion.)

It doesn't really matter to me other than larger is easier to paint.

Size doesn't matter to me either.

Edited October 21, 2018 by NeverBetTheFett

[subtrendy2 2,923]

On 10/20/2018 at 6:37 PM, a1bert said:

Saska is a small woman like Jyn, and Tress isn't human. Death Troopers are selected to be tall.

(Compare Biv and Saska from the same boxed expansion.)

It doesn't really matter to me other than larger is easier to paint.

Yeah, I always thought comparing figures wasn't quite a scientific approach. Not all humans are the same size, after all. Just ask my wife, who's over a foot and a half shorter than me.

On 10/20/2018 at 8:08 PM, sionnach19 said:

I've been wondering this about the new Legion Boba Fett model. The IA version is a little on the scrawny side, and if the Legion model doesn't look that outlandish I'd be tempted to use him instead. Anyone have a picture of the Legion Boba next to some IA figures (heroes, storm troopers, old Boba, etc.)?

I'd imagine you should probably be okay. Figures like Vader or Fett should be imposing, anyway.

[Master Wang 85]

On 10/21/2018 at 6:13 AM, mulletcheese said:

Here you go:

 

Thanks.  Given the difference in stance, that’s maybe not a terrible difference.  Plus, them being a higher level trooper, I can understand them being a little bulkier.

[subtrendy2 2,923]

9 minutes ago, Master Wang said:

Thanks.  Given the difference in stance, that’s maybe not a terrible difference.  Plus, them being a higher level trooper, I can understand them being a little bulkier.

They are, the wiki confirms it.

[thePREdiger 44]

the scale is different - put Verena Talos next to Tress, unless Tress is a giant race or something. alone her head easily fits 3 verena heads

[bill_andel 75]

Two words: Wing Guard

[Spidey NZ 743]

the sculpts are now being done in the computer, i believe the molds  are 3D modeled and the minis are cast from that.  perhaps a critical scale thing with how small they can print.  

[Rikalonius 854]

On 10/20/2018 at 9:08 PM, sionnach19 said:

I've been wondering this about the new Legion Boba Fett model. The IA version is a little on the scrawny side, and if the Legion model doesn't look that outlandish I'd be tempted to use him instead. Anyone have a picture of the Legion Boba next to some IA figures (heroes, storm troopers, old Boba, etc.)?

I have a picture of the two Boba next to each other, but no place to post it.  I guess I could go through and find all my posts with pictures and delete them.  Anyway, Boba, at first, looks a lot bigger in legion, but if you compare parts, like helmet to helmet, or EE3 to EE3, the size is not quite as big, but it is bigger.  Legion Boba has a full extended body where as IA Boba is hunched over.  

[angelman2 546]

20 hours ago, thePREdiger said:

unless Tress is a giant race or something.

Off topic, I know, but Tress is a female Devaronian, btw 

Edited November 15, 2018 by angelman2

[sionnach19 121]

4 hours ago, Rikalonius said:

I have a picture of the two Boba next to each other, but no place to post it.  I guess I could go through and find all my posts with pictures and delete them.  Anyway, Boba, at first, looks a lot bigger in legion, but if you compare parts, like helmet to helmet, or EE3 to EE3, the size is not quite as big, but it is bigger.  Legion Boba has a full extended body where as IA Boba is hunched over.  

 

I'd definitely be interested in seeing that comparison picture, when/if you get around to posting it! I'm curious how Legion Boba looks next to other Imperial Assault figures... whether his extended pose makes him tower over the other human-sized figures, or if it makes him suitably imposing.

[Rikalonius 854]

Here you go.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Rikalonius

[subtrendy2 2,923]

On 11/14/2018 at 11:51 AM, thePREdiger said:

the scale is different - put Verena Talos next to Tress, unless Tress is a giant race or something. alone her head easily fits 3 verena heads

I mean, put Brigitte Nielsen next to Rooney Mara.

 

That being said though, the head thing is interesting.  Wasn't Legion using the more Games Workshop style of exaggerated limbs, and IA wasn't?  Maybe we are now?  I definitely don't have the eye for detail for that kind of thing, but it could make sense.

[subtrendy2 2,923]

If we don't end up getting Rogue One stuff, I might have to consider some of these to add in...

 

 

 

 

Ironically, as I read it, Jyn Erso seems pretty similar to our Jyn Odan gameplay-wise.

Edited November 19, 2018 by subtrendy2

[Zrob314 734]

Let's do some like to like comparisons.  New IA Minis are bigger, but still not legion scale and would look weird on a legion table even if on a proper base. 

Legion minis will fit on an IA board (though they overlap the square) and can occasionally be used to great effect.  

In my heart of the empire campaign the first time they ran in to Vader (ever for that group) was in Diala's mission.  I used my IA vader and it was impressive (most impressive) for the tone and introduction.

Sorin, Thrawn and Veers

Kayne and a Legion Stormtrooper leader

Stormtrooper, Death Trooper and Legion Stormtrooper (I used the elite because they all have about the same knee bend going on)

Echo Base Trooper and Spotter from Legion FD.1 Cannon

[Fourtytwo 1,325]

1. There are two 'eras' of IA-minis with a very different sculpting style and scale: The pre-Bespin Gambit era, where the minis are distinctly smaller in scale and less well defined and clean in both sculpt and production, and the era satrting with Bespin Gambit, where a very clean, well-defined digital sculpting style was introduced which is used still these days, both in IA AND Legion, the difference being that for Legion the figures are generally made slightly taller and often bigger or 'wider'.

2. If you compare IA-figures from the pre-Bespin Gambit era to figures from Legion, you do not get any insight into how significant the scale difference is to the vast majority of IA-figures, namely from the era since Bespin Gambit.

3. There still are slight scale differences even within the range of figures for the same game - not all post-Bespin Gambit-figures for IA are 100% in scale to each other, and neither are all Legion models.