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Hi guys!

I often play with friends or my girlfriend and most of the time i used vader as commander but i notice is turning harder in the last month so i'm here to take some advices. What is the best list right now to play with vader?

I have the following: 

2 core sets. 1 snowtrooper. 1boba. 1scout troopers and 1 veers.

I started playing vader with 4 troops and atst with good results but now this is not playable. My most played list is vader, snow flamers, 4 troopers with at least 2 dlt and then i try to maximize points (now with scouts and strike team).

We (girldfriend and me) have a match score table and we are like 12-7 haha vader doesn't work but i love him so can't change my mind...

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As of right now I feel Vader is just too slow to field reliably unless you want to sink a lot of points into him with Force Push and Lightsaber Throw.

Once the Royal Guard unit releases they will be able to soak a lot of shots aimed at Vader to allow him to get into melee.

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I ran this earlier against a 11 a t rebel list and had fun.  You could swap the missing snows out for a set of scouts. I had fun using vader as its normally veers instead.

 


++  Standard (Galactic Empire) [789 Points] ++

+ Commander +

•Darth Vader [225 Points]: Force Reflexes, Saber Throw

+ Corps +

Snowtroopers [68 Points]: Flametrooper

Snowtroopers [68 Points]: Flametrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [44 Points]

+ Support +

74-Z Speeder Bikes [90 Points]

74-Z Speeder Bikes [90 Points]

+ Command Hand +

Command Hand: •Ambush, •Implacable, ••New Ways to Motivate Them, ••Push, •••Assault, •••Master of Evil, ••••Standing Orders

++ Total: [789 Points] ++

Created with BattleScribe

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Changed the list to fit what your army has in it.


++  Standard (Galactic Empire) [793 Points] ++

+ Commander +

•Darth Vader [225 Points]: Force Reflexes, Saber Throw

+ Operative +

•Boba Fett [140 Points]

+ Corps +

Snowtroopers [68 Points]: Flametrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

+ Special Forces +

Scout Troopers [88 Points]: DLT-19x Sniper

+ Command Hand +

Command Hand: •Implacable, •Whipcord Launcher, ••New Ways to Motivate Them, ••ZX Flame Projector, •••Master of Evil, •••Z-6 Jetpack Rocket, ••••Standing Orders

++ Total: [793 Points] ++

Created with BattleScribe

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On 10/15/2018 at 4:27 AM, The captn said:

Changed the list to fit what your army has in it.


++  Standard (Galactic Empire) [793 Points] ++

+ Commander +

•Darth Vader [225 Points]: Force Reflexes, Saber Throw

+ Operative +

•Boba Fett [140 Points]

+ Corps +

Snowtroopers [68 Points]: Flametrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

Stormtroopers [68 Points]: DLT-19 Stormtrooper

+ Special Forces +

Scout Troopers [88 Points]: DLT-19x Sniper

+ Command Hand +

Command Hand: •Implacable, •Whipcord Launcher, ••New Ways to Motivate Them, ••ZX Flame Projector, •••Master of Evil, •••Z-6 Jetpack Rocket, ••••Standing Orders

++ Total: [793 Points] ++

Created with BattleScribe

I tried this list today against a han-leia + swarm troopers with good results. I didn't put my money in vader+boba due to the amount of points in 2 figures but this really work fine. +1 victory point due to bounty give me the game! And that thing cause a splitt fire into vader and boba so both could survive.

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1 hour ago, naitsirk said:

I tried this list today against a han-leia + swarm troopers with good results. I didn't put my money in vader+boba due to the amount of points in 2 figures but this really work fine. +1 victory point due to bounty give me the game! And that thing cause a splitt fire into vader and boba so both could survive.

Glad it worked out for you. Ill give it a chance this weekend if we get to play. Boba is a nice addition  on the list and can be a target that just wont die.

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I played against Boba for the first time this weekend and he was a total badass.  He's a lot of points to field with Vader, but the idea that I'd have to split fire among them is a tough one.  I would just have to kill troops if I had those two facing me on the table.

 

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Hey man! I don't love the options you have at your disposal - I would suggest buying 1 extra Snowtrooper and trying to run this Vader list. You can replace the 2nd snowie with a Stormtrooper, but I think it will be less impactful. I was running this Vader list until recently when I switched to a Veers / Weiss list. 

http://tabletopadmiral.com/legion/empire/p03u0du0au09p05u07uEMuEMuEMp05u07uEMuEMuEMp05u07uEMuEMuEMp07u24u22uEMu1ep07u24u22uEMu1ep02uEMp02uEMc08

If you prefer, you could replace Force Push and have enough points to add some Blast grenades to your Stormtroopers, which is great for routing units in cover on objectives. Gives both your corps units Impact and Blast. 

The above list isn't perfect, and is weaker with now than it was when I was running it due to new units that have come out. However, it's not awful!

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I don't think Vader is worth it without force push, reflexes, and saber throw.  He is actually faster than most units because he is able to move twice every turn, take a dodge every turn and Saber throw every turn if he is able.  2 speed 1 moves is faster than 1 speed 2 move.  So most troops that have to stop moving and use an activation to attack he will be able to close distances fast as long as you keep him in cover, especially with the Implacable card command card.  You have a good set there.  I would go for Vader with the 3 upgrades I mentioned (235), 4 stormies with DLTs (272), 2 Snows with Flame throwers (136), and Boba with Hunter (146).  This gives you 8 beefy activations that should be able to handle more, less potent activations.

 

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