4th Cycle - The Circle Undone

[Khudzlin 734]

39 minutes ago, Veve7 said:

Also move the enemy, not Rita, I think.

Nope, Rita moves, not the enemy.

[davilesroses 7]

Rita Young

After evading an enemy, deal 1 damage to that enemy or move it to a connected location. Limit once per round.

Arcane efect: +2 Until the end of the round ignore the limit of Rita´s ability.

 

The Spectral Watcher

Ancient One · Spectral · Elite

Alert. Hunter.

Forced.- When The Spectral Watcher is defeated. Instead of discard it, heal it all damage, disengage it from all investigators and exhaust it. The Spectral Watcher does not ready during Upkeep phase.

 

This is the translation of the two full cards you can see on the image.

 

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[Soakman 987]

I'm sort of expecting Rita to have deck restrictions close to Mark's. Sitting at 13 stat points and a 9/5 spread, I think her deck is going to be heavily restricted.

Maybe 0-5 survivor & Neutral, lvl 0 Tricks. Just a guess. It seems like versatility is typically balanced with less overall stats, so I'm expecting a pretty limited spread of options for her. That being said, she seems awesome anyway.

[Network57 561]

4 hours ago, Khudzlin said:

Nope, Rita moves, not the enemy.

The text says "muévalo", not "muévate". "Move it", not "move yourself".

[Khudzlin 734]

2 minutes ago, Network57 said:

The text says "muévalo", not "muévate". "Move it", not "move yourself".

Then the Spanish translation is incorrect (since the box is publicly announced, I can say I playtested it).

[Network57 561]

55 minutes ago, Khudzlin said:

Then the Spanish translation is incorrect (since the box is publicly announced, I can say I playtested it).

Fantastic news! Thanks for the insight! It's also possible on such low-res that we're all misreading the Spanish but that definitely looks like an L to me, not a T.

[Khudzlin 734]

2 minutes ago, Network57 said:

Fantastic news! Thanks for the insight! It's also possible on such low-res that we're all misreading the Spanish but that definitely looks like an L to me, not a T.

It's too blurry for me, too, to be honest. In any case, Rita is a track runner, so it makes more sense for her to move herself rather than enemies.

[rsdockery 537]

It'd also play weirdly with some scenarios, like Blood on the Altar, since there's no traits in there. Forced movement of enemies normally excludes Elites.

[Mep 2,291]

You say muévalo, I say muévate ......

Good to see Rita making her entrance in this game and survivor fits her. She really is just a one trick pony despite her stat lines. She'll need help to either fight or investigate. As a typical survivor though, she can go either way.

[Jobu 720]

I am liking Ritas ability.  It creates some synergies with underused cards that allow automatic evades with enemies you aren't engaged with.

[Duciris 1,347]

Someone said the Spanish page claimed it would have 6 investigators.  I am thinking that we will indeed see Charlie Kane and that he will be neutral.  It should be pointed out that he was in the Sanctum of Twilight expansions for MoM2, the one most like The Cycle Undone.  I am thinking that he will have an ally-centered ability.

Guessing at Charlie Kane, I further guess that we'll see Lily Chen in this cycle.  The two of them have always released together (AH:BG: Kingsport expansion, Elder Sign: Omens of Ice, Eldritch Horror: Core, & the aforementioned MoM2: Sanctum of Twilight).

Guessing that she'll be our guardian, further that her deckbuilding with prohibit firearms (martial artist and whatnot), and that she'll benefit from having free hand slots.  No real reasoning other than her profession, martial artist.

 

[Veve7 35]

So predictions of users :

Guardian- Lily Chen

Rogue- Daniela Reyes

Mystic- Diana Stanley(this is sure)

Survivor- Rita Young (sure)

Neutral- Charlie Kane.

The only question is: Who is the Seeker ? Harvey, Amanda, Mandy, Kate, George or Norman ?

Or other? I love to speculate...

[zooeyglass 327]

@Duciris it's this bit, from the spanish site: 

Contents: 6 investigator cards, 10 small cards [assuming 4 for the prologue characters], 91 scenario cards, 59 player cards and 1 campaign guide.

CONTENIDO

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6 cartas de Investigador, 10 cartas pequeñas, 91 cartas de Escenario, 59 cartas de Jugador y 1 guía de campaña.

[zooeyglass 327]

Which means.....
1    guardian investigator
2    seeker investigator
3    rogue investigator
4**    Diana Stanley
5**    Rita Young
6    neutral investigator
7    guardian sig
8    guardian sig
9    seeker sig
10    seeker sig
11    rogue sig
12    rogue sig
13**    Twilight Blade
14**    Dark Insight
15**    Terrible Secret
16    survivor sig
17    survivor sig
18    neutral sig
19    neutral sig
20    g1
21    g2
22    g3
23    g4
24    seek1
25    seek2
26    seek3
27    seek4
28    r1
29    r2
30    r3
31    r4
32    m1
33    m2
34    m3
35    m4
36    surv1
37    surv2
38    surv3
39    surv4
40    neutral/weakness
41    neutral/weakness
42    neutral/weakness
43    1/7
44    2/7
45    3/7
46**    Gavriella Mizrah 4/7
47**    Jeroma Davids 5/7
48    Valentino Rivas 6/7?
49    Penny White 7/7?
** = confirmed

Apologies for formatting getting ruined from my investigative document!

[CSerpent 520]

2 hours ago, Veve7 said:

So predictions of users :

Guardian- Lily Chen

Rogue- Daniela Reyes

Mystic- Diana Stanley(this is sure)

Survivor- Rita Young (sure)

Neutral- Charlie Kane.

The only question is: Who is the Seeker ? Harvey, Amanda, Mandy, Kate, George or Norman ?

Or other? I love to speculate...

I'd expect at least one more male in the bunch. 

I think when we do get Norman, it will be in the same cycle as Carolyn, and they'll all be investigators who aren't as focused on the main class.  Otherwise, you end up with a set that doesn't really have a Seeker or a Guardian.

[Eldan985 360]

Speculation on Norman:

He's very intersting for this cycle: His signature book is the Liber Ivonis, and, as Wiki quotes:

 

. . . The Book of Eibon, that strangest and rarest of occult forgotten volumes ... is said to have come down through a series of manifold translations from a prehistoric original written in the lost language of Hyperborea. 
—Clark Ashton Smith, "Ubbo-Sathla"

So. It's very old, it's written by a sorcerer of Hyperborea, Eibon. It is known to contain content about Pnath, in the Underworld, which is under the Dreamlands, Shaggai, the home plant of the insects who worship Azathoth (who has a secret name) and Tsatthogua. 

His weakness is The Harbinger.

 

Honestly, the Book of Eibon could fit this cycle very, very well. So I wouldn't say Norman is out of the question.

We haven't seen his normal backstory for Arkham yet, but it's usually about Stars vanishing and the scientific community laughing about him. While I don't really see a connection there to witches, there could easily be a connection to Azathoth.

 

So, my prediction for now is that it could indeed be Norman. And if he is, we will see this cycle take us into the Dreamlands, perhaps meet Nyarlathotep as the Black Man, then stop the arrival of Azathoth, in perhaps a way similar to how it works in Eldritch Horror, where Azathoth is not fought, but the Earth warded against his sight. 

 

Edit: good point about "no real seeker". Norman would make a lot more sense in a cycle with another investigator who turns into a seeker later, or is a secondary seeker. I can't see that for Lily Chen, Daniela Reyes, any of the proposed people. That's a strong point against him.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Eldan985

[Duciris 1,347]

I wonder what the backlash would be of releasing one of the novella characters before Marie Lambeau.  Also, releasing one of them before everyone could get their hands on it (who wanted it, and at a reasonable price) due to production and logistics.  I'm betting none of them - by which I mean only Silas, Norman, and Carolyn (b/c Jenny & Roland are just alts) - will release this cycle.  I'm not taking bets for their release after that.

Really surprised that Marie hasn't shown up yet.  It's been 2 years.  I wonder when "Ashcan" Pete will show up for the new Arkham 3.0, as he was the promo investigator at AN'18.

[Allonym 954]

3 hours ago, Veve7 said:

So predictions of users :

Guardian- Lily Chen

Rogue- Daniela Reyes

Mystic- Diana Stanley(this is sure)

Survivor- Rita Young (sure)

Neutral- Charlie Kane.

The only question is: Who is the Seeker ? Harvey, Amanda, Mandy, Kate, George or Norman ?

Or other? I love to speculate...

Speculation is fun!

If Daniela does come out here (and it seems likely) it seems that Rogue is a likely bet - it's her class in Arkham Horror 3e, and her investigator story in the deluxe rulebook has her tangling with the mob.

Charlie Kane the Neutral is the bookies' favourite, but I think you could argue he could be a support-focussed Seeker (for instance, the effect on Charles Ross, Esq. is pretty much spot on for how Charlie might work, and his best stat in Eldritch Horror is the investigation stat of Observation), or even a Guardian with the Leadership theme of the class (in Arkham Horror 2e, he's got a pretty mean right hook, with a max. base fight of 5).

I'm holding out hope for (YA BOI) Preston Fairmont, who I dearly love, as a millionaire playboy is a good fit for the political intrigue and high society theme. He could be any of rogue (all the money), guardian (decent combat ability in Eldritch) or neutral, but I think when he does finally appear he'll necessarily have to have some unusual deckbuilding requirements to reflect his expansive pocketbook.

Tommy Muldoon seems like a strong possibility for guardian, since the campaign is about goings on in Arkham itself (at least to begin with). Particularly if we're presumably investigating the disappearances of the prologue investigators.

For the same reason, we coulf see Joe Diamond - Guardian, Seeker, even maybe Rogue? Tony Morgan is less likely, since he has a connection to Innsmouth and is more likely to appear then.

The Seeker is likely to be one of the Arkham/Miskatonic natives, Harvey would be my bet as a more respectable person, but Kate, Amanda or Mandy are all possibilities. Could even see Patrice as a seeker (or neutral?), simply on the basis of professional musician -> high society.

 

[Soakman 987]

^ I agree with much of this....

I'm thinking...

Guardian: Joe Diamond... or I suppose Tommy? Mostly because of handcuffs, which seemed like a fishy card for Forgotten Age. Or dare we get Carolyn's non-replacement? 
Rogue: Danielle (her story in the 3d rulebook mentions The Circle)
Survivor:  Rita (yay!)
Seeker: Preston Fairmont (I can see him allying w/ Charles Ross Esq... to be honest, Preston seems like a more naive and younger Charlie in a lot of ways. He seems well-educated despite the playboy archetype, but naive about the mythos and seeking answers about his families wealth. I'm hoping for a seeker with decent-to-good combat and lower will, just for variety.)
Mystic: Diana
Netural: Charlie (the political ties to the lodge and Arkham are just too strong)

[Allonym 954]

1 minute ago, Soakman said:

Or dare we get Carolyn's non-replacement?

I think Carolyn is very unlikely, since she's so strongly associated with the Dreamlands and I would be very surprised if this is the Dreamlands cycle (Dreamlands as a campaign seems inevitable but there's more than enough to fill up a campaign with just Silver Twilight Lodge, investigating missing persons, Arkham Witch Cult and whatever the Circle ends up being). On the other hand, she's the Guardian with low Combat and Diana is the Mystic with low (initial) Willpower, so maybe this'll be the cycle of investigators with unconventional statblocks and deckbuilding? But then, Rita has the very conventionally Survivor agility-and-evade focus, so probably not.

[CSerpent 520]

How about Darrell for the Seeker?  I mean, he's 100% a Seeker, right?  And rooted in Arkham itself.

Edited November 9, 2018 by CSerpent

[Soakman 987]

I'm not sure there won't be a Dreamlands through-line in this cycle. I really hope it DOES get its own cycle, but the witch house and the tarot cards to make me wonder.

[Allonym 954]

Despite the title of the story Dreams in the Witch-House, there's no real connection between the Witch House/Keziah Mason and the Dreamlands, so I'm not too concerned in that regard.

[Jobu 720]

2 hours ago, Soakman said:

^ I agree with much of this....

I'm thinking... 

Guardian: Joe Diamond... or I suppose Tommy? Mostly because of handcuffs, which seemed like a fishy card for Forgotten Age. Or dare we get Carolyn's non-replacement? 
Rogue: Danielle (her story in the 3d rulebook mentions The Circle)
Survivor:  Rita (yay!)
Seeker: Preston Fairmont (I can see him allying w/ Charles Ross Esq... to be honest, Preston seems like a more naive and younger Charlie in a lot of ways. He seems well-educated despite the playboy archetype, but naive about the mythos and seeking answers about his families wealth. I'm hoping for a seeker with decent-to-good combat and lower will, just for variety.)
Mystic: Diana
Netural: Charlie (the political ties to the lodge and Arkham are just too strong) 

Preston is most likely a rogue.

[Soakman 987]

2 hours ago, Jobu said:

Preston is most likely a rogue.

I'm curious about your take on this. He seems, to me, like a hands-off kind of guy, or at least that's what I imagine. Wealthy playboys rarely have to get their hands dirty and while getting to have fun with the byproducts of illicit activities, I don't see him being a real rogue at heart. Is it just because of the wealth = resources = rogue? I still don't see him as a good candidate thematically for cards like Streetwise, pickpocketing, burglary, etc. Some rogue cards make sense, while others seem odd to me. 

His backstory does mention that he wasted much of his fortune on gambling and women, but just going to a casino does not make one streetwise. What if he was a seeker with access to cards that gain resources? (Not that they need that with Milan Christopher, lol)  He may very well be a rogue, but then either Danielle would have to be a seeker (unlikely) or we'll be getting a different seeker... Can't wait to find out.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Soakman