Hive of Scum and Villany - [MAFIA]

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

3 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

did you even read my wc and understand not only it and the game we're in? FOR ME TO WIN WITH MAFIA TOWN HAS TO HANG 3 OTHER TOWN YOU IDIOT SO I CAN ONLY WIN WITH TOWN 

I understood it perfectly. It is not a town wc. And it only work if your numbers are correct. You don't care about my setup concerns. I do care about yours. You didn't proof your claim yet so you must bear me a but more.

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

seriously what did pod message you? go after ebon or something?

Why do you care about it? Would it change your thoughts about finishing this game after lynching LP?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

5 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

We would have to lynch town today, have a night kill, and lynch town tomorrow leaving us with the 2v2, as I don't think you're *all* that stupid to lynch 3 town I can only win with Town so I won't entertain this rubbish from pod and ovi anymore. Your arguments to lynch me are only valid if 3 town die and that is not the basis of a good argument to me 

I didn't vote you. All I tried to say is I don't give a **** about your opinions of check mating LP. 

You could be scum, also Pod also LP. I won't jump on LP just because you think he is. 

I would need to be sure that your kill has precedence over mafia one, for example.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

7 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I understood it perfectly. It is not a town wc. And it only work if your numbers are correct. You don't care about my setup concerns. I do care about yours. You didn't proof your claim yet so you must bear me a but more.

no no, that's an opinion, what I said is fact. are numbers are our numbers, unless you're not town? that's how the maths works out. and proof my claim? I breadcrumbed it from the start and it was my shot that was redirected to Gnips....

8 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Why do you care about it? Would it change your thoughts about finishing this game after lynching LP?

No not on LP but it certainly would be interesting 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I didn't vote you. All I tried to say is I don't give a **** about your opinions of check mating LP. 

You could be scum, also Pod also LP. I won't jump on LP just because you think he is. 

I would need to be sure that your kill has precedence over mafia one, for example.

who don't you buy then excluding me?

Cninja - Town Mason

Mads - Town Double Voter

Mando - Town Bus Driver

LTD - Town Reporter -dead

Cal - Town Cop - dead

Gnips - Scum Mason -dead

Pod - Messenger

LP - scum?

Ovi - ? 

Me - 3rd party survivor 

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

no no, that's an opinion, what I said is fact. are numbers are our numbers, unless you're not town? that's how the maths works out. and proof my claim? I breadcrumbed it from the start and it was my shot that was redirected to Gnips....

No not on LP but it certainly would be interesting 

Breadcrumb doesn't proof anything. I was able to build up a fake flavor to back up my play. People fake breadcrumbed fiahermans. Breadcrumb 3 party is like breath. 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I was able to build up a fake flavor to back up my play.

what're you then

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

what're you then

Why you need to know. Is it not game over?

You don't even need my vote and per you said Pod and me are not enough to lynch you anyways.

I think we agreed to use the day. Did you want us spend it with the arms crossed? I just try to figure things out. I am happy you are so sure about your 3rd party alignment but I am not. That's all.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

Why you need to know. Is it not game over?

You don't even need my vote and per you said Pod and me are not enough to lynch you anyways.

I think we agreed to use the day. Did you want us spend it with the arms crossed? I just try to figure things out. I am happy you are so sure about your 3rd party alignment but I am not. That's all.

Okay I get that, but if you want to work things out so do i.. as you said it was my point

So apart from LP who we're assuming scum, the only role we don't know is yours? You know mine weather you want to like it or not so fairs fair, and just assume for 5 minutes i'm telling the truth and look at the game.. please! Because what makes you so unsure?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

Okay I get that, but if you want to work things out so do i.. as you said it was my point

So apart from LP who we're assuming scum, the only role we don't know is yours? You know mine weather you want to like it or not so fairs fair, and just assume for 5 minutes i'm telling the truth and look at the game.. please! Because what makes you so unsure?

The fact that scum never had a chance. But every time I say that you dismiss that possibility. 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

The fact that scum never had a chance. But every time I say that you dismiss that possibility. 

But that was luck, LTD got flipped town and as i said i would I shot mad, mando then redirected than onto Gnips and got a 1 in a million hit on scum night2.

Because Ninja was a mason and revealed to us as such, and from the other roles we know by process of elimination we reach LP. I just don't get why you can't accept town had a good game, mostly in part to mandos redirect. The fact scum never had a chance is not only a good thing, but not a solid argument either.. I dismiss the possibility as long as mad double votes, the only 2 people without confirmed town roles is you and pod and you both look town... so why isn't it possible for scum to have an unlucky game?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

5 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

But that was luck, LTD got flipped town and as i said i would I shot mad, mando then redirected than onto Gnips and got a 1 in a million hit on scum night2.

Because Ninja was a mason and revealed to us as such, and from the other roles we know by process of elimination we reach LP. I just don't get why you can't accept town had a good game, mostly in part to mandos redirect. The fact scum never had a chance is not only a good thing, but not a solid argument either.. I dismiss the possibility as long as mad double votes, the only 2 people without confirmed town roles is you and pod and you both look town... so why isn't it possible for scum to have an unlucky game?

Pod is messenger.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Pod is messenger.

that's what you take from that, yes he is, but as said pages ago after LPs 99% scum, he's my 1% purely because vis was a scum messenger and if LP wasn't scum I wouldn't know where to look, but alas LP is

[EbonHawk 1,243]

5 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Pod is messenger.

also i know i got a message before you

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

Let's say I am bulletproof town. Do you still think they were just unlucky during the game and not since the setup itself?

The fact that ANYONE considered that to explain the lack of a second death made me wonder about such a weird setup where scum are whisperers and town just pure gold.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

also i know i got a message before you

You said I just corrected you in order to help you to be coherent with yourself. ?

[EbonHawk 1,243]

7 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Let's say I am bulletproof town. Do you still think they were just unlucky during the game and not since the setup itself?

The fact that ANYONE considered that to explain the lack of a second death made me wonder about such a weird setup where scum are whisperers and town just pure gold.

if you're bulletproof town you could be the reason there was no night kill, or it could just be the order or operations..

I haven't disagreed that the setup may favour town a little heavy, but scum aren't just whisperers they have their normal night kill, and getting a mason chat to win over a town as well, if things had been different (mando not redirecting) scum could've played a good game, gnips was certainly under the radar and would've had cninja for back up. All in all IMO town got lucky this game and that's it, regardless how simple an explanation that is 

[Madaghmire 7,274]

8 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Let's say I am bulletproof town. Do you still think they were just unlucky during the game and not since the setup itself?

The fact that ANYONE considered that to explain the lack of a second death made me wonder about such a weird setup where scum are whisperers and town just pure gold.

I for one, was counting on any town players who KNEW THEY WERE BULLETPROOF to let us know if that was a possibility. Hiding it after they shoot at you doesn’t help town, because its no longer hidden information to the scum, who would know who they targetted.

But if you are, in fact, a town bulletproof, then thats further evidence in Ebon’s favor.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

11 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Let's say I am bulletproof town. Do you still think they were just unlucky during the game and not since the setup itself?

The fact that ANYONE considered that to explain the lack of a second death made me wonder about such a weird setup where scum are whisperers and town just pure gold.

Also, your argument about the setup favoring town is difficult yo evaluate, because we dont know scums second role. We had a cop, if they have a godfather does the setup still favor town? 

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

I for one, was counting on any town players who KNEW THEY WERE BULLETPROOF to let us know if that was a possibility. Hiding it after they shoot at you doesn’t help town, because its no longer hidden information to the scum, who would know who they targetted.

But if you are, in fact, a town bulletproof, then thats further evidence in Ebon’s favor.

I don't know if they shot at me. All I have is Pod's love letter.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

4 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I for one, was counting on any town players who KNEW THEY WERE BULLETPROOF to let us know if that was a possibility. Hiding it after they shoot at you doesn’t help town, because its no longer hidden information to the scum, who would know who they targetted.

But if you are, in fact, a town bulletproof, then thats further evidence in Ebon’s favor.

FFG said i've used my weekly emoji quota laughing at pod laugh night(i actually cant use emojis atm to react ), but I like this in agreement 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I don't know if they shot at me. All I have is Pod's love letter.

but they could've is the point 

[Madaghmire 7,274]

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

I don't know if they shot at me. All I have is Pod's love letter.

You would only not know if you had infinite bulletproof. If you’re one shot then the mod should tell you when your protection expires.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

Just now, EbonHawk said:

but they could've is the point 

Yes they could. And I wouldn't have let you die based only on you being alive. But I want to know as I don't get messages telling me night attempts. 

[Madaghmire 7,274]

How much time is left?

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Just now, Madaghmire said:

How much time is left?

vis said 17:30 i think half time for a football game