Glimpse of an Upgraded Nebulon B? Probably a Nebulon K!

[ImpStarDeuces 526]

Ok so maybe I'm just trying to through out some teasers because someone has to do it...but I like that ship (bottom left - not the junk...maybe we'll get the jink too?)

Edited May 24, 2018 by ImpStarDeuces

[svelok 6,487]

My brain really can't tell if I'm looking at one ship or, like, three different ships all closer/further away.

[ImpStarDeuces 526]

1 minute ago, svelok said:

My brain really can't tell if I'm looking at one ship or, like, three different ships all closer/further away.

Pic on the right is oriented sort of looking head on. Middle pic is more of a side shot. Hopefully the pic below will help to orient it a bit too...

[svelok 6,487]

3 minutes ago, ImpStarDeuces said:

Pic on the right is oriented sort of looking head on. Middle pic is more of a side shot. Hopefully the pic below will help to orient it a bit too...

Oh, yeah, that's a much better angle.

I like it. Armada when? The existing Nebs could use a task force title.

[draco193 491]

Which comic is this from?

[ImpStarDeuces 526]

4 minutes ago, draco193 said:

Which comic is this from?

Doctor Aphra

[Plessiez 18]

I wish we could get a Nebulon B-2

[Ewok on Stilts 109]

This has been on the internet for awhile. I wonder if it is still a Nebulon-K?

 

 

 

 

[ImpStarDeuces 526]

10 hours ago, Ewok on Stilts said:

This has been on the internet for awhile. I wonder if it is still a Nebulon-K?

 

 

 

 

I think we have a winner. It looks the part but the timeline doesn't really match up but I'm pretty sure the mouse doesn't give a shittery. Thanks for the info! I'm gonna update the OP.

Edited May 24, 2018 by ImpStarDeuces

[melminiatures 2,664]

But... but... that deviantart design was fan made. They have used a fan made design for an official comic.

[ImpStarDeuces 526]

2 minutes ago, melminiatures said:

But... but... that deviantart design was fan made. They have used a fan made design for an official comic.

I think Lucas and/Disney actually has a history of using fan made designs. They probably liked it, made contact, and got a contract on it.

For an example, check out the Bellator...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bellator-class_dreadnought

[Ewok on Stilts 109]

11 hours ago, ImpStarDeuces said:

I think we have a winner. It looks the part but the timeline doesn't really match up but I'm pretty sure the mouse doesn't give a shittery. Thanks for the info! I'm gonna update the OP.

No problem! Thats cool.

[dominosfleet 1,819]

I think it looks great. But you and I both know this game is dead and that'll never happen

[thecactusman17 3,192]

On 5/23/2018 at 7:46 AM, ImpStarDeuces said:

Pic on the right is oriented sort of looking head on. Middle pic is more of a side shot. Hopefully the pic below will help to orient it a bit too...

I read all that alien's lines as if they are spoken by Roberto.

[TallGiraffe 3,447]

12 hours ago, melminiatures said:

But... but... that deviantart design was fan made. They have used a fan made design for an official comic.

I want one. 

[strikenowhere 84]

52 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

I read all that alien's lines as if they are spoken by Roberto.

Now stand back I've gotta practice my stabbin'!

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18 hours ago, ImpStarDeuces said:

I think Lucas and/Disney actually has a history of using fan made designs. They probably liked it, made contact, and got a contract on it.

For an example, check out the Bellator...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bellator-class_dreadnought

Maybe. It's possible that comic artist just took that design off the net, put it in the comic and Lucasfilm okayed it without foreknowledge that this was fan made. It would be bad if this was the case but stuff like this does happen.

I hope at least the guy who did the fan design was asked by the comic artist if he could use it, then got the approval from LFL. I can see that happening, since I think this is just a random ship, not the Nebulon-K (despite the original artist's intentions) so in this case using a fan design is not out of the realm of possibility. The other thing too is the timeline doesn't match. Aphra is set in the OT era and the Neb-K is closer to a sequel trilogy ship.

[calamity_si 3]

Hi all, I'm Calamity_Si. I'm the creator the the Nebulon-K design. My deviant art page is https://www.deviantart.com/calamitysi. 

I just came across this forum today and wanted to state officially that nobody contacted me about using my ship design. The first I knew of this was when someone on Twitter posted a picture of my ship appearing in the comic. 

Needless to say,  I thought this theft of my design to be rather rude to say the least! 

 

[Piratical Moustache 762]

On 11/7/2018 at 6:17 PM, calamity_si said:

Hi all, I'm Calamity_Si. I'm the creator the the Nebulon-K design. My deviant art page is https://www.deviantart.com/calamitysi. 

I just came across this forum today and wanted to state officially that nobody contacted me about using my ship design. The first I knew of this was when someone on Twitter posted a picture of my ship appearing in the comic. 

Needless to say,  I thought this theft of my design to be rather rude to say the least! 

 

If it's any consolation I think your design is better than most of the new ships from the Disney owned Lucasfilm.

[Bakura83 1,054]

On 11/10/2018 at 11:55 PM, Piratical Moustache said:

If it's any consolation I think your design is better than most of the new ships from the Disney owned Lucasfilm.

I wish republic navy clone war ships had looked more like yours and less like evolutionary missing link Star Destroyers.

I also wish the separatist astetic had stayed more like Trade-Federation ships and not just various types of metal sausages.

[Ewok on Stilts 109]

On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 6:17 PM, calamity_si said:

Hi all, I'm Calamity_Si. I'm the creator the the Nebulon-K design. My deviant art page is https://www.deviantart.com/calamitysi. 

I just came across this forum today and wanted to state officially that nobody contacted me about using my ship design. The first I knew of this was when someone on Twitter posted a picture of my ship appearing in the comic. 

Needless to say,  I thought this theft of my design to be rather rude to say the least! 

 

Rude indeed.

It's within your rights to reach out to Lucasfilm about it. Sadly, they are likely to pull it - It's an awesome design and deserves more exposure. At the same time you deserve credit for your work.

I really like a lot of your work including the Ascendent Class. I would have rather seen that beauty at the end of Star Trek Beyond than what we got with the new 1701-A

[AllWingsStandyingBy 4,659]

13 hours ago, Ewok on Stilts said:

Rude indeed.

It's within your rights to reach out to Lucasfilm about it. Sadly, they are likely to pull it - It's an awesome design and deserves more exposure. At the same time you deserve credit for your work.

Is it, though?  I'm pretty far removed from the art world, so I'm curious.  I'd have thought that LFL/Disney would not not only be unlikely to compensate the artist for creating something unlicensed and un-commissioned using their IP, but would be more likely to follow-up with a C&D or the like?  Could be I'm just overly gun-shy from back when Games Workshop had a real habit of hitting fan-made materials and sites with C&D Letters. 

I think this is a lesson in why it's not a great idea to create content for free, especially content from IP you do not own... because the extent to which you can claim creative or legal control is probably pretty limited, and if there's anyway in which it's been monetized, I'd suspect you risk C&D or punitive action?



All of that said, it's a lovely design.  Has the right sort of aesthetic to it to fit within the world.

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by AllWingsStandyingBy

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38 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Is it, though?  I'm pretty far removed from the art world, so I'm curious.  I'd have thought that LFL/Disney would not not only be unlikely to compensate the artist for creating something unlicensed and un-commissioned using their IP, but would be more likely to follow-up with a C&D or the like?  Could be I'm just overly gun-shy from back when Games Workshop had a real habit of hitting fan-made materials and sites with C&D Letters. 

I think this is a lesson in why it's not a great idea to create content for free, especially content from IP you do not own... because the extent to which you can claim creative or legal control is probably pretty limited, and if there's anyway in which it's been monetized, I'd suspect you risk C&D or punitive action?



All of that said, it's a lovely design.  Has the right sort of aesthetic to it to fit within the world.

 

Caveat: IANAL.

Overall, it depends.  The flavor text on the image above would potentially be problematic, given it references things that are Disney's IP that he doesn't own - 'First Order', anyway, likely a trademarked phrase.  And certainly the First Order and Rebellion/Resistance (Star Bird) symbols are copyrighted.

All that said, the design of the ship itself is probably fine.  Just because something really looks like it would fit into an established universe, doesn't necessarily create any conflicts as long as you don't use any protected material in making it.  Star Trek ships are a pretty good example of that problem - making a ship of original design that is very obviously Klingon is perfectly fine...put the (copyrighted) Klingon language or Klingon symbol on the hull anywhere, and now you are toast.  At least, not without permission - you are effectively benefiting from someone else's work that they own, without compensation or agreement with them.

Double IANAL caveat: and what Disney did in the comic, here, is...hazy.  Thing is they didn't use the 3d model created by @calamity_si - what they did was have an artist draw something inspired by a design he came up with (and 'designs', generally, have no particular copyright/patent/trademark protection at all - where all that comes down to is most importantly implementation.  IE., his literal 3d model if the file was copied and used would be a problem.  Artists conception of it...?  It varies.)  Definitely it's in poor taste on Disney's part, anyway.  I'd certainly contact them and ask about it, if nothing else, or possibly the artist for these issues (might be easier to get in touch with)

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Do we even know that the Disney artist saw the design?

[Ewok on Stilts 109]

10 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Is it, though?  I'm pretty far removed from the art world, so I'm curious.  I'd have thought that LFL/Disney would not not only be unlikely to compensate the artist for creating something unlicensed and un-commissioned using their IP, but would be more likely to follow-up with a C&D or the like?  Could be I'm just overly gun-shy from back when Games Workshop had a real habit of hitting fan-made materials and sites with C&D Letters. 

I think this is a lesson in why it's not a great idea to create content for free, especially content from IP you do not own... because the extent to which you can claim creative or legal control is probably pretty limited, and if there's anyway in which it's been monetized, I'd suspect you risk C&D or punitive action?



All of that said, it's a lovely design.  Has the right sort of aesthetic to it to fit within the world.

 

Traditionally, american companies are far more lenient about fan content. As lng as you dont infringe on their copyright they dont give a flying forklift. We all know a popular 3D modeler who sells models for X-Wing and Armada that includes content from the latest movies. If Disney hasn't come down there, why would they come down on an artist who artwork was copied by one of their artist?

I'm pretty sure the original artist can claim fair use, and the comic using the design without acknowledging him is plagiarism.