a4rino 107 Posted May 22, 2018 I'm thinking about getting back into the game with 2.0, and I want to convert over only my imperial ships and be just an imperial player. If I get 1 core + 1 imperial conversion kit, will I get all the upgrades from the first wave? Or will there be upgrades exclusive to the other faction conversion kits (besides faction-only uniques, of course)? Has FFG clarified this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frimmel 2,190 Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, a4rino said: I'm thinking about getting back into the game with 2.0, and I want to convert over only my imperial ships and be just an imperial player. If I get 1 core + 1 imperial conversion kit, will I get all the upgrades from the first wave? Or will there be upgrades exclusive to the other faction conversion kits (besides faction-only uniques, of course)? Has FFG clarified this? The scuttlebutt at present is that things like the Starviper are done and dusted in 2nd Edition. You won't need a Scum/Rebel/Imp/First Order/Resistance expansion for a single upgrade card to use elsewhere. 1 1 CaptainJaguarShark and a4rino reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,824 Posted May 22, 2018 They have said that going forward you will only ever have to buy ships from one faction to get all cards that faction can use. 3 1 Jyico, CaptainJaguarShark, a4rino and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainJaguarShark 1,824 Posted May 22, 2018 They've stated that playing mono-faction should be possible without buying into the other factions (with the exception that S&V has to buy a core set, which has really nothing for them outside of the damage deck, lined rulers, and extra tokens). We are not entirely certain how true this will be yet. There are some cards that look like they can work for multiple factions but which have not been explicitly stated for more than one. A couple of the astromechs, as the main example, and Maul (S&V only with caveat that Rebels can use him if they have Ezra Bridger in the squad). 1 1 a4rino and CoffeeMinion reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a4rino 107 Posted May 22, 2018 Okay that seems pretty unanimous then. Thanks everyone for the fast responses. I'm looking forward to getting back into this game. 4 Arttemis, BlackSunSyn, Bucknife and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icelom 3,385 Posted May 22, 2018 they also said not all upgrades might be available for all factions at once, you might have to wait for the next wave for an upgrade. 1 a4rino reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzywookie 2,145 Posted May 22, 2018 I got mono once. 2 4 1 imrandy85, BlackSunSyn, Bucknife and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a4rino 107 Posted May 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Icelom said: they also said not all upgrades might be available for all factions at once, you might have to wait for the next wave for an upgrade. I see. That's a rather important distinction, but nothing that can't be solved by patience and/or short-term borrowing from friends. Thanks for clarifying that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,824 Posted May 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, Icelom said: they also said not all upgrades might be available for all factions at once, you might have to wait for the next wave for an upgrade. I hadn’t heard that, where did they say it? 1 Red G reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icelom 3,385 Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Forgottenlore said: I hadn’t heard that, where did they say it? In an interview i have no idea what one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pewpewpew BOOM 1,245 Posted May 23, 2018 I think the kicker will be getting adequate quantities of certain cards if you want to run multiples. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelogicdump 60 Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Forgottenlore said: I hadn’t heard that, where did they say it? I haven't heard them specifically mention it for X-Wing (though I have heard others say it) but that is what they have stated for Legion. The upgrade cards will come "within reasonable time" to every faction. And for Legion they appear to not be releasing everything at one but dropping new releases every few weeks. So we won't know until we find out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herowannabe 4,314 Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) What everyone else said, but I'll add that regardless of what actually happens, if I were you I would start out with just the core and 1 imperial conversion set (and the TIE Reaper, of course), and then see how it plays out. Edited May 23, 2018 by Herowannabe 1 a4rino reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted May 23, 2018 It is the way the game was meant to be played after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a4rino 107 Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Herowannabe said: What everyone else said, but I'll add that regardless of what actually happens, if I were you I would start out with just the core and 1 imperial conversion set (and the TIE Reaper, of course), and then see how it plays out. This is exactly my plan actually. I'm also trying to track down some used first edition imperial ships for cheap to get a better return on my conversion kit. Ideally I would find someone local who wants to go mono rebels in 2.0 and trade them my unwanted rebel ships for their unwanted imperial ships. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffeeMinion 640 Posted May 23, 2018 2 hours ago, a4rino said: This is exactly my plan actually. I'm also trying to track down some used first edition imperial ships for cheap to get a better return on my conversion kit. Ideally I would find someone local who wants to go mono rebels in 2.0 and trade them my unwanted rebel ships for their unwanted imperial ships. I've kinda started doing this with my one buddy who plays mostly Rebel or Resistance with a little bit of Scum. I've gravitated a lot more toward Imps & Scum in the last couple years, with some splashes into FO. I like playing everything but it's not going to be practical for me to convert it all in one fell swoop. So in the meanwhile I'm snapping up his extra Imp ships that he's never used and likely never gonna use, because it pushes up the value and variations that I can get out of the Imp kit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DailyRich 3,346 Posted May 23, 2018 This might also mean those of us who buy everything may end up with several Proton Torpedo equivalents in 2.0. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herowannabe 4,314 Posted May 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, DailyRich said: This might also mean those of us who buy everything may end up with several Proton Torpedo equivalents in 2.0. I would much prefer that to not having enough of one particular upgrade card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucknife 1,372 Posted May 23, 2018 Indeed, mono. I was basically all Rebels before 2.0 was announced. Now, my wallet is happy to report I will only be buying Resistance from here on out. 1 Kyle Ren reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papy72 491 Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 1:40 PM, Frimmel said: The scuttlebutt at present is that things like the Starviper are done and dusted in 2nd Edition. You won't need a Scum/Rebel/Imp/First Order/Resistance expansion for a single upgrade card to use elsewhere. I wish I understood just how they were going to do this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucknife 1,372 Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, papy72 said: I wish I understood just how they were going to do this. My guess is that there will still be generic upgrades that "everyone" can use (like the new Crackshot), but that each faction will have a ship that comes with those upgrades. Each new wave will probably use the same rule: all the factions having one or two common upgrade cards that came out at the same time. Just my hunch, anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frimmel 2,190 Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, papy72 said: I wish I understood just how they were going to do this. What's not to understand? Something like Autothrusters won't be available in only a Scum expansion. You won't have to buy ships that aren't in the faction you want to play in order to get a particular upgrade card. There is a lot of other vagueness around this that we're all hearing differently but for the larger part there is agreement that you will be able to play 2nd Edition with only one faction if you so choose without requiring purchase of other faction's expansions to have access to all the goodies. Edited May 24, 2018 by Frimmel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papy72 491 Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Frimmel said: What's not to understand? The method by which they are going to sell the generic upgrade cards. I personally think @Bucknife nailed it really. There's going to be one or two generic upgrades with each wave, and those will be sold with each ships faction within the wave. But that doesn't mean FFG can't take a stand like "Hey, we're going to release this fancy new Autothrusters card over the next three waves, starting with the Scum ship in this wave". Technically speaking you don't HAVE to buy the Scum ship to get the card. You could wait, but only Scum has access to it until the next wave or two comes out. Or there's also the possibility that there won't BE any generic upgrades at all post-Core. Everything with be faction specific. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frimmel 2,190 Posted May 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, papy72 said: The method by which they are going to sell the generic upgrade cards. I personally think @Bucknife nailed it really. There's going to be one or two generic upgrades with each wave, and those will be sold with each ships faction within the wave. But that doesn't mean FFG can't take a stand like "Hey, we're going to release this fancy new Autothrusters card over the next three waves, starting with the Scum ship in this wave". Technically speaking you don't HAVE to buy the Scum ship to get the card. You could wait, but only Scum has access to it until the next wave or two comes out. Or there's also the possibility that there won't BE any generic upgrades at all post-Core. Everything with be faction specific. I tend to think Bucknife has a likely outcome for this. I find in un-likely there won't be generic upgrades. The bit where this wave only Scum gets authothrusters and Rebels or such gets it down the road would be technically correct. I don't think they're going to do that but you have a point that they could. I think they're going to want to keep those coming to 2nd Edition fresh able to just buy Rebel ships if they want to fly the new "meta" Rebel list. The sales increase in an endeavor like this is getting more of the on the fence folks to jump in. That means not needing something from the Fang Fighter to play a two T-65s and a U-wing list and not lose all your games horribly at Friday Night X-wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites