Fleet Troopers

[Jman444 82]

Its weird that they release tomorrow and there hasn't been a preview article for them to see the grenade launcher card. Hopefully today?

[Ghost Dancer 401]

2 hours ago, Jman444 said:

Its weird that they release tomorrow and there hasn't been a preview article for them to see the grenade launcher card. Hopefully today?

I said as much in a different thread - very odd.

[NeonWolf 942]

Maybe they saw that someone spoiled the Italian cards on FB and felt like they didn't need to bother with an article?

[Jabby 1,042]

45 minutes ago, NeonWolf said:

Maybe they saw that someone spoiled the Italian cards on FB and felt like they didn't need to bother with an article?

Nah. FFG never misses the opportunity to make articles about things people already know about from seeing them in other languages (ahem, Spanish) when it comes to Legion. 

[Tirion 2,223]

Does anyone have the point value if the grenade launcher?

[Mep 2,291]

They just hosted worlds. Perhaps the people that would write that article took some vacation.

[Shokupanman 63]

30 minutes ago, Mep said:

They just hosted worlds. Perhaps the people that would write that article took some vacation.

The cards and such were finalized and sent for production a good long while ago...if that article hasn't been sitting in a folder for weeks, if not longer espcially knowing Worlds were coming, then someone in the PR department there needs to re-think how they work.

[Orkimedes 592]

3 hours ago, Tirion said:

Does anyone have the point value if the grenade launcher?

33 points, exhaust, 2 white 1 black.  Blast, impact 2.

[stackeffect 528]

1 hour ago, Shokupanman said:

The cards and such were finalized and sent for production a good long while ago...if that article hasn't been sitting in a folder for weeks, if not longer espcially knowing Worlds were coming, then someone in the PR department there needs to re-think how they work.

Yeah! They owe us an article the day before the product is released just so we can see the cards one day sooner!

Rabble rabble rabble!

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by stackeffect

[TallGiraffe 3,447]

They posted info in the release article. Still think the MPL is too expensive. 

[Kubernes 736]

I think I'd still use it if I decide to play a squad of the fleet troopers. Just having a Blast weapon with range 3 for the rebels would prove very useful for certain maps and/or local tables. Otherwise, I just see myself using a squad for objective duty and I'd almost rather just use vanilla troopers for that. 

[NeonWolf 942]

I had this vision today of using at least a couple of fleet troopers with the MPL to rush across the board to try and eliminate enemy units that are in cover.  The blast and all the dice (12 white+1 black) should eliminate some models, especially ignoring cover. That is, if the white dice decide to bless you....

This may be a tactic that evolves with the game as more ground vehicles are added to provide mobile cover for the Fleet Troopers.

Edited May 24, 2018 by NeonWolf

[player2801864 38]

3 minutes ago, NeonWolf said:

I had this vision today of using at least a couple of fleet troopers with the MPL to rush across the board to try and eliminate enemy units that are in cover.  The blast and all the dice (12 white+1 black) should eliminate some models, especially ignoring cover. That is, if the white dice decide to bless you....

This may be a tactic that evolves with the game as more ground vehicles are added to provide mobile cover for the Fleet Troopers.

I feel play style is going to dictate how these are used. I've ordered two, would like to pick up two more. While Ready is fun and flavorful, I feel these can be played a bit more aggressively. And more dice = more swing. With the surge, the odds are comparable to a regular rebel trooper. And the grenade launcher might help knock out some of those **** speeder bikes. Blast at Range 3 is fairly exciting.  List building should be fun.

And they look nice. Hopefully, I can paint them before the next thing comes out.

[WAC47 1,796]

3 hours ago, NeonWolf said:

I had this vision today of using at least a couple of fleet troopers with the MPL to rush across the board to try and eliminate enemy units that are in cover.  The blast and all the dice (12 white+1 black) should eliminate some models, especially ignoring cover. That is, if the white dice decide to bless you....

This may be a tactic that evolves with the game as more ground vehicles are added to provide mobile cover for the Fleet Troopers.

You’re much better off using the scattergun for that purpose. 

[nashjaee 750]

Yeah, we ran the numbers on this the other day. @Orkimedes put up the full breakdown of the two heavy weapons vs either Stormtroopers or Rebel Troopers here:

In short, the scattergun is better than the grenade launcher in each of these cases except against Rebels in heavy cover and that is because the Precise keyword has diminishing returns when the defender has weak defense dice.

In my mind, your weapon choice depends on the role you want to fill: if you want to hunt armor or to "snipe" at range 3, take the grenade launcher; for any other role the scattergun is better. If your goal is to hit non-armor enemies with your full barrage of dice, the scattergun is the obvious choice as it statistically delivers more wounds.

[NeonWolf 942]

21 minutes ago, nashjaee said:

Yeah, we ran the numbers on this the other day. @Orkimedes put up the full breakdown of the two heavy weapons vs either Stormtroopers or Rebel Troopers here:

In short, the scattergun is better than the grenade launcher in each of these cases except against Rebels in heavy cover and that is because the Precise keyword has diminishing returns when the defender has weak defense dice.

In my mind, your weapon choice depends on the role you want to fill: if you want to hunt armor or to "snipe" at range 3, take the grenade launcher; for any other role the scattergun is better. If your goal is to hit non-armor enemies with your full barrage of dice, the scattergun is the obvious choice as it statistically delivers more wounds.

Not doubting your math, just curious how the 12white+1black stacks up against the 10white+2red against a unit in heavy cover with a dodge token.  Guess you have to make the distinction between Storm/Snowtroopers and Rebel/Fleet troopers due to the different defense dice.

[nashjaee 750]

11 minutes ago, NeonWolf said:

Not doubting your math, just curious how the 12white+1black stacks up against the 10white+2red against a unit in heavy cover with a dodge token.  Guess you have to make the distinction between Storm/Snowtroopers and Rebel/Fleet troopers due to the different defense dice.

Basically, the scatter gun starts with higher average damage rolled. And then, Blast doesn't quite do enough to compensate for that deficit against Pierce on the defensive end. With the exception of Rebel Troopers in heavy cover.

Just some quick and dirty calcs for example:

[shmitty 3,315]

36 minutes ago, nashjaee said:

Basically, the scatter gun starts with higher average damage rolled. And then, Blast doesn't quite do enough to compensate for that deficit against Pierce on the defensive end. With the exception of Rebel Troopers in heavy cover.

Just some quick and dirty calcs for example:

Yep, the grenade launcher doesn’t really pull ahead til you start shooting at Armor.  There, Impact 2 makes a big difference.   

What’s nice about the launcher is it is solid against vehicles, but Blast makes it useful, if not optimal, against Troops as well.  

[Darth evil 906]

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/24/spreading-hope/

 

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