Why is a leg of my Vader brown?

[Ken on Cape 263]

Started to paint up my minis.  I primed Vader in Army painter black spray primer.  I got a little too much primer on the left leg. I used a paper towel to wipe of most of the extra while it was still wet. I painted over it in black, but it shows brown. I tried a couple more coats and its still brown.  Any ideas how I can get ride of the brown? 

 

[Indy_com 1,144]

@Ken on Cape I'd love to help answer your question, but Photobucket has taken your image ransom and I unfortunately cannot see it.

[Ken on Cape 263]

How do I add an attachment? I've done it before. I can see under my profile the attachments/ pics I added. But there does'nt seem to be a place to add more. I'm not at my limit, either. 

[Indy_com 1,144]

22 minutes ago, Ken on Cape said:

How do I add an attachment? I've done it before. I can see under my profile the attachments/ pics I added. But there does'nt seem to be a place to add more. I'm not at my limit, either. 

If you're using Photobucket, you need to purchase the ability to embed your image in other forums.

I'd recommend creating an imgur account and re-uploading it there.

After that, just copy the image URL into your post.

[Ken on Cape 263]

 

Hows that? 

[Indy_com 1,144]

29 minutes ago, Ken on Cape said:

 

Hows that? 

Thanks.

The only possibility I can think of for what happened there is that your wash built up and has become plainly visible.

I'll tag in @Sorastro to answer this question.

[Ken on Cape 263]

Thanks but it was primer, I have'nt put my wash on it yet. Just in case that matters.

[NukeMaster 248]

Can you try and get more light on legs. Not that I have any great insight for you but I really can't distinguish the brown in your picture.

[BigBadAndy 640]

I’m not an expert in this area but it looks to me like the texture is really different there.  Blacks are always hard to match and if that leg has a lumpy semi-primed undercoat and the rest of the model is a smooth even application that would explain a difference in appearance.  When you cleaned up the overspray with a paper towel you might have left a very textured surface behind.

If it was my model I would probably just soak it in simple green or whatever your preferred model stripping solution is and start over.

[Sorastro 1,822]

Hi Ken! 

That's a curious issue for sure, but I'm with Andy - I'd probably strip the paint and start over (I could be wrong but it looks like the primer is also a little thick on the face too).  If it was a trooper I might not be so bothered, but as it's Vader, well..

[Ken on Cape 263]

Thanks everyone. So just regular simple green? How long does it usually take to strip?

Edited May 10, 2018 by Ken on Cape

[Bohemian73 161]

primer is not meant to be or provide a heavy coat for a mini. light is better. too much primer and you will lose details on the model.  Primer is used so that the real paint adheres to the model.

[Dash Two 309]

2 minutes ago, Ken on Cape said:

So just regular simple green? How long does it usually take to strip?

 From my experience, having gone to the Strip a Model movie ...

Dilute the Simple Green tiny bit

Let set for a few hours

Take an old tooth brush and lightly brush the model.  I do this for a minute and, then, run the model under some running water

Repeat this several times

I may or may not have scratched a model brushing too hard; broken a piece by scrubbing too hard or left something in pure SImple Green too long and essentially ruined it.  

 

 

[BigBadAndy 640]

I generally dilute the simple green 50/50.  I haven’t done any of the Legion models, only Imperial Assault but be prepared for it to effect the glue as well.

if you just leave it sitting it takes 24-72 hours for a fully painted model.  The primer is somewhat resistant sonyku May have to scrub a few times with a soft brush.  Just be careful not to scrape the model up too badly.  I have a sonic jewelry cleaner which will greatly accelerate the process.  So I run that for 20 minutes or so and it works great

Edited May 10, 2018 by BigBadAndy

[Ken on Cape 263]

Will this cause the mini to become unglued from the base?

[BigBadAndy 640]

1 minute ago, Ken on Cape said:

Will this cause the mini to become unglued from the base?

Probably.  I have heard that Simple green will eventually breakdown superglue although I admit I haven’t tried it.  FYI I edited my reply above slightly, upon reflection.

[Ken on Cape 263]

Well yesterday I got some simple green, got a glass, filled it with half water, filled the rest with the simple green for 50/50.  I put Vader in, been about 24 hours, some stuff has come off but not much change. Should I give more time or take it out and brush with old toothbrush?

[Brightguy 130]

I would recommend brushing.  When I've used SG it will soften, but it won't actually dissolve the paint off the mini.  Some physical assistance is necessary to remove it.  Take off what you can and then resoak. This will allow the SG solution to get to underpaint and crevasses better.  Ultimately you may need the point of a toothpick or a similar small pointy thing to get it out of deep recesses.  

[Bohemian73 161]

on old lead miniatures, I repeated the process three times and was satisfied the third time that enough paint had come off to repaint them. I don't think it would hurt to try another overnight, and yes an old toothbrush does help.

[BigBadAndy 640]

On 8/8/2018 at 3:07 AM, Ken on Cape said:

Well yesterday I got some simple green, got a glass, filled it with half water, filled the rest with the simple green for 50/50.  I put Vader in, been about 24 hours, some stuff has come off but not much change. Should I give more time or take it out and brush with old toothbrush?

Any kind of friction should work.  A soft bristled brush is great but even a sponge or rag should work.  I have used a toothpick to get at nooks.  Just don’t scratch the plastic too much.