Survey: Favorite Lightsaber Build

[ErikModi 450]

That's part of what inspired us to fiat that lightsaber pikes could collapse for easy carrying.  Basic lightsaber pike stats, just with what she added during the crafting and attachment process.

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

 

I'm planning to get 2 lightsabers from vader's vault for my son's 5th birthday (he's currently 10 months and 8 days 12 hours and 40 minutes old)

My son, Samuel L. ... would get this made windu-dish saver

 

And I'd get this next one for myself so that we could duel.  And I'm planning a 5th birthday star wars costume party around my son getting his first lightsaber and me in my RotS screen accurate obiwan costume taking my son (wearing a kid's mace windu costume) to be my padawan learner.  There'd be either a Darth vader or death star pinata...

Favorite crystal is a fully modded dragonite gem, custom grip, this plan stabilizer coil, superior 

[TheSapient 596]

8 hours ago, EliasWindrider said:

 

I'm planning to get 2 lightsabers from vader's vault for my son's 5th birthday (he's currently 10 months and 8 days 12 hours and 40 minutes old)

My son, Samuel L. ... would get this made windu-dish saver

And I'd get this next one for myself so that we could duel.  And I'm planning a 5th birthday star wars costume party around my son getting his first lightsaber and me in my RotS screen accurate obiwan costume taking my son (wearing a kid's mace windu costume) to be my padawan learner.  There'd be either a Darth vader or death star pinata...

Favorite crystal is a fully modded dragonite gem, custom grip, this plan stabilizer coil, superior 

Beautiful.  VV makes great stuff.  You were going to go with Ultrasabers before, yes?  You are making a good choice, IMO.  Not that I own any.  I just look at the pictures and dream.

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

3 hours ago, TheSapient said:

Beautiful.  VV makes great stuff.  You were going to go with Ultrasabers before, yes?  You are making a good choice, IMO.  Not that I own any.  I just look at the pictures and dream.

I looked at more videos, and understood why VV holds up so well and ultrasabers doesn't (the bit about the chasis), the fury elite isn't exactly a replica of Mace Windu's saber

but it is reasonably close, and it's quite a bit thinner than the electrum wind from ultrasabers which will make it easier for my boy to hold/duel with as a child, and then there are plecterpixels (two strips of rgb LEDs in the blade as opposed to the base effectively being a LED flashlight, plecterpixels enable an extending retracting ignition effect, and avoid base flairing) which are an option for vader's vault but not (yet) for ultrasabers. The net (everything) difference in cost is basically 2x but it won't break.

Edited June 1, 2018 by EliasWindrider
Stupid auto mis-correct

[TheSapient 596]

8 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:

I looked at more videos, and understood why VV holds up so well and ultrasabers doesn't (the bit about the chasis), the fury elite isn't exactly a replica of Mace Windu's saber

but it is reasonably close, and it's quite a bit thinner than the electrum wind from ultrasabers which will make it easier for my boy to hold/fuel with as a child, and then there are plecterpixels (two strips of rgb LEDs in the blade as opposed to the base effectively being a LED flashlight, plecterpixels enable an extending retracting ignition effect, and avoid base flairing) which are an option for vader's vault but not (yet) for ultrasabers. The net (everything) difference in cost is basically 2x but it won't break.

NeoPixel (or plecterpixel) blades are definitely the future.  If I ever pull the trigger, it will include be for one of those.  

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

4 hours ago, TheSapient said:

NeoPixel (or plecterpixel) blades are definitely the future.  If I ever pull the trigger, it will include be for one of those.  

They get about 40 minutes of use per battery, and it depends on color... purple and cyan are shorter lived then rgb because they are combined colors, and white (my preferred color) uses the most energy and gets the hottest  genesis custom sabers has an efficiency (60% power) 

Edited June 1, 2018 by EliasWindrider
Stupid auto mis-correct (energy=> every)

[Demon4x4 222]

I ordered one through Saber forge not too long ago. Hopefully it arrives soon.

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

33 minutes ago, Demon4x4 said:

I ordered one through Saber forge not too long ago. Hopefully it arrives soon.

It looks cool, better than most of the ultrasabers designs but if read worse things about quality/reliability/ruggedness than ultrasabers, here's to hoping that you don't encounter any problems with it

 

[StriderZessei 948]

My Juyo Berserker is loving his Lightweight, Superior, Extended-Hilt, Reflex Grip Saberstaff*. The GM allowed a custom saber crystal that has the same stats as a Krayt Dragon Pearl, but with one "Innate Parry +1" mod and one "Innate Reflect +1" mod instead of two of the "Vicious +1" mods.

 

*He got two triumphs on the crafting, and applied Tinkerer from his Armorer tree to it, so it has 6 HP.

Edited September 4, 2018 by StriderZessei

[LordBritish 1,016]

My Atuari striker is actually as basic as it gets. Ilium Crystal, fully modded. 10 damage, crit 1. Vicious 2, a curved hilt, a magnetic tever and a pommel with a few free hardpoints because of intuitive improvements. I haven't managed to get anything that has caught my eye yet in terms of upgrades and the crystal is fairly basic because it's something he took from the very first inquisitor he killed. So far, so reasonable?

Factor in assassin, Atari Hawk Strike and A Lesson with a 5 in intellect. A standard critical injury is at plus 50 and can easily ramp to much higher and 5 ranks in lightsaber. Thus even the slightest nick is potentially really fatal. Really goes to show that with absolute mastery; even the simplest most humble of crystals can be effective. 

That being said I usually pull my punches unless it's one of those uber critical sessions to keep it easier for my DM to manage. It's a bit of a balancing act given my PC is much more effective then most NPC's he will ever meet, aside from his old master that he is chasing, a Sith Spirit called Havod that has processed an individual that is seeking something under the Jedi temple for his own needs. Thus while I know full well I could pretty much defeat anyone I met by citing them to death; I generally don't so I can have more engaging encounters.

[HappyDaze 10,108]

I'm a fan of using two sabers with Corrupted Crystals for two free dark pips on all Force use.  Oh, and they're not too shabby at slicing up people too. Might as well pt them in a pair of double-bladed sabers, and go full helicopter if you can with the Inquisitor hilts! 

[Corvax Curze 5]

My personal favorite is using the new warrior source book. 

I run a Great Lightsaber which gives a flat +1 Damage, a Corrupted Krayt Dragon Pearl which maxed out gives 12 Damage, Crit 1, and Vicious 7. Then throwing in Superior Saber for the +1 Damage, Extended Hilt for +1 Damage and Vicious 1 . This comes to a total of: 

15 Damage, Crit 1, Vicious 8. 

Then add in the 2 ranks of Lethal Blows from Juyo Berserker and Juyo Savagery (Gives +5 for Crit Injury per Darkside destiny point). And lastly Embrace Your Hate (Spend 1 Destiny Point to add Damage equal to Darkside destiny points (Usable twice)) you’re looking at no less than 20 Damage outright then a ~80% chance to Crit them with instant death. 

[HappyDaze 10,108]

1 hour ago, Corvax Curze said:

My personal favorite is using the new warrior source book. 

I run a Great Lightsaber which gives a flat +1 Damage, a Corrupted Krayt Dragon Pearl which maxed out gives 12 Damage, Crit 1, and Vicious 7. Then throwing in Superior Saber for the +1 Damage, Extended Hilt for +1 Damage and Vicious 1 . This comes to a total of: 

15 Damage, Crit 1, Vicious 8. 

Then add in the 2 ranks of Lethal Blows from Juyo Berserker and Juyo Savagery (Gives +5 for Crit Injury per Darkside destiny point). And lastly Embrace Your Hate (Spend 1 Destiny Point to add Damage equal to Darkside destiny points (Usable twice)) you’re looking at no less than 20 Damage outright then a ~80% chance to Crit them with instant death. 

Stacking the benefits of two Crystals on a single lightsaber isn't legal. 

[Corvax Curze 5]

Just now, HappyDaze said:

Stacking the benefits of two Crystals on a single lightsaber isn't legal. 

The Corrupted Crystal is a modifier, it can be applied to any crystal. In my characters case, the pearl became corrupted by his dark side morality.

[HappyDaze 10,108]

17 minutes ago, Corvax Curze said:

The Corrupted Crystal is a modifier, it can be applied to any crystal. In my characters case, the pearl became corrupted by his dark side morality.

That is incorrect. Corrupted Crystsl is its own crystal type.

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

18 minutes ago, Corvax Curze said:

The Corrupted Crystal is a modifier, it can be applied to any crystal. In my characters case, the pearl became corrupted by his dark side morality.

Technically the corrupted crystal is it's own unique thing, but if your GM is fine with house-ruling otherwise, then it's all good.

[Corvax Curze 5]

1 minute ago, HappyDaze said:

That is incorrect. Corrupted Crystsl is its own crystal type.

All I can link is this my dude. 

http://star-wars-rpg-ffg.wikia.com/wiki/Corrupted_Crystal

[Corvax Curze 5]

2 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Technically the corrupted crystal is it's own unique thing, but if your GM is fine with house-ruling otherwise, then it's all good.

My understanding is that the book does the same thing that the lightsabers do where it’s based off the Ilum crystal. I was skeptical at first too but it makes sense from a lore/gameplay perspective with the new “bleeding” thing Disney made canon. 

[HappyDaze 10,108]

7 minutes ago, Corvax Curze said:

All I can link is this my dude. 

http://star-wars-rpg-ffg.wikia.com/wiki/Corrupted_Crystal

I would suggest using the original source. 

[Corvax Curze 5]

Just now, HappyDaze said:

I would suggest using the original source. 

Ya know there’s a spot in the CRB where it says Fun First, Rules Second. Page 308. I’d suggest using that source before dicking on other people on the forums. But for the record, since the coworker who owned the original source moved, I’ve had to settle with what I got. Aight?

[HappyDaze 10,108]

28 minutes ago, Corvax Curze said:

Ya know there’s a spot in the CRB where it says Fun First, Rules Second. Page 308. I’d suggest using that source before dicking on other people on the forums. But for the record, since the coworker who owned the original source moved, I’ve had to settle with what I got. Aight?

You could be appreciative of those that correct a simple error rather than doubling down on embracing a mistake, but go ahead and find your fun in cheating the system if that's your bag. I'm going to ignore you now.

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

6 hours ago, Corvax Curze said:

My understanding is that the book does the same thing that the lightsabers do where it’s based off the Ilum crystal. I was skeptical at first too but it makes sense from a lore/gameplay perspective with the new “bleeding” thing Disney made canon. 

So here's the thing.  While the "corrupted crystal" in terms of the over all lore is based upon the "bleeding" of an Ilum crystal (first introduced in the Ahsoka novel and later codified in the Darth Vader comic series), in terms of the RPG, a corrupted crystal is considered to be it's own separate entity from all the other kyber crystal attachments, even having it's own rules with regards to when it's been "cleansed" and having a separate list of modification options than the Ilum crystal (notably it can't be modded to the full extent of an Ilum crystal even after it's been purified).

Thing also is that technically, going by the current state of the Disney canon, a kyber crystal is a kyber crystal is a kyber crystal, so variations such as Ilum, Dragite, Mephite, Dantari, Sigil, etc simply don't exist, and that there should really only be a standard set of stats for a kyber crystal installed into a lightsaber.  So in that respect, FFG is "breaking" from the current canon.  It's worth mentioning that prior to the KOTOR games, lightsaber crystals pretty much had the same stats no matter what used as a crystal (and Legends included a whole laundry list of possible sources for crystals that the new canon doesn't permit, with artificially grown crystals being a big one that's since been rendered non-canon).

So technically, if a non-Ilum crystal were to be "bleed" into a corrupted kyber crystal, then whatever stats that crystal had would be replaced by those of the Corrupted Crystal attachment as outlined in Disciples of Harmony, and whatever traits the crystal had beforehand would be lost as there's no such thing as a "corrupted Dantari crystal" or a "corrupted Krayt Dragon Pearl" or a "corrupted Mephite crystal."

But as I said in an earlier post, if your GM opts to run it differently, that's fine, especially if the group has a whole finds it fun and/or adds to the campaign's story.  These games are about having fun, so ultimately who cares what a bunch of faceless internet denizens say about how your GM runs things as long as you, the GM, and the rest of the players are having fun?

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

6 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

You could be appreciative of those that correct a simple error rather than doubling down on embracing a mistake, but go ahead and find your fun in cheating the system if that's your bag. I'm going to ignore you now.

You could also be less caustic about it.

This may come as a huge shock to your ego, but not everybody plays the game the same way you do.  I'm sure that the way I run my games would send you into a spastic fit, and I'm sure you do things in your game that I'd openly disagree with.  But since you're not a player in any of my games, and I'm not a player in any of your games, does it really matter?

After all, the RAW that you're so eager to harp on does say "Fun First, Rules Second (Page 308)."  As long as the GM is cognizant that they're doing is a house rule, no harm done.

And trust me, having played in games run by both Jay Little and Sam Stewart, both of them very much adhere to the "fun first, rules second" guideline and have tossed out bits (some small, some very large) of the RAW that got in the way of the players having fun.

[HappyDaze 10,108]

2 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

You could also be less caustic about it.

This may come as a huge shock to your ego, but not everybody plays the game the same way you do.  I'm sure that the way I run my games would send you into a spastic fit, and I'm sure you do things in your game that I'd openly disagree with.  But since you're not a player in any of my games, and I'm not a player in any of your games, does it really matter?

After all, the RAW that you're so eager to harp on does say "Fun First, Rules Second (Page 308)."  As long as the GM is cognizant that they're doing is a house rule, no harm done.

And trust me, having played in games run by both Jay Little and Sam Stewart, both of them very much adhere to the "fun first, rules second" guideline and have tossed out bits (some small, some very large) of the RAW that got in the way of the players having fun.

[StriderZessei 948]

Yeah, as a GM, I'm always ready to hear about custom weapons and abilities, as long as they're not game-breakingly OP and willing to earn them. 

One PC wanted a Kyuzo energy bow, but we reduced its damage rating to give it more HP. My aforementioned Juyo has a crystal with the same stats as a Dragon Pearl, but with mods that give ranks in Parry and Reflect instead of Vicious.