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800 Empires (150th Legion scout detachment)

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Before the list I wanna give a little background, I went heavy into it and leaned into the Imperal side, I've only played a few games (I think I'm at 4 now) so I'm still trying to get my bearings. With that being said I have 3 people that I play with frequently, two Rebel players and one Imperal. The other Imperal player has a list in constant flux, but always runs an AT-ST, just one. The rebel side one plays a Speeder, and the other plays three AT-RTs and season to taste for the rest anywho I built this list cause I really like speeder bikes, I find they put in a lot of work for their point cost so that being said this is my list.

Darth Vader [200]
Force Push [10]
Saber Throw [10]
Force Reflexes [15]

Stormtroopers [44]
DLT-19 Stormtrooper [24]
Stormtrooper [11]
Impact Grenades [5]

Stormtroopers [44]
DLT-19 Stormtrooper [24]
Stormtrooper [11]
Impact Grenades [5]

Stormtroopers [44]
HH-12 Stormtrooper [34]
Stormtrooper [11]
Grappling Hooks [3]
Impact Grenades [5]
 
74-Z Speeder Bikes [90]
Long-Range Comlink [10]

74-Z Speeder Bikes [90]
Long-Range Comlink [10]

74-Z Speeder Bikes [90]
Long-Range Comlink [10]

Now after reading up on other people's list I know that Coms seem to be held in low regard, my thought process is that at least one of my bikes are hard flanking my  Opponent so the ability to give that ambush order to sneak up on them has worked key more than once and the hooks are just a point filler so please give me some thoughts.

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You won't need ComLink on all 3 Bikesquads. Usually when playing 3 Bike Squads one or two are inside your commandrange anyway in the early rounds, while they need to get assigned orders.

So just the one Squad which is placed farest away from your commander during deployment needs a Comlink if you want invest into them. (I for myself follow the philosophy of keeping units as cheap as possible and play without ComLinks)

If you get rid of some upgrades of your Troop Units (Grenades, Hooks) you get enough points (when counting the 20 points for the unessecary ComLinks) to buy another Trooper Unit.

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So, your list is pretty good and falls very well into the meta, from what I've seen. The common way to run is 3 bikes / 4 troopers (or 2 bikes / 5 troopers) based on preference. I think that would work a little better for you. Some suggestions to free up points for your 4th trooper unit (should be a trooper + DLT)

  • Ditch long-range comms on all bikes. That's 30 points right there. One option is to add Battle Meditation to Vader for 10 points, which allows you to issue at least one order to any unit on the battlefield. Not quite as much of a sure thing, but could work. If you opt for BM, I'd recommend removing Force Push. Same point cost, different move. I like Force Push too, but in reality I'm lucky if I use it once in a match, so I've removed it from my Vader. 
  • Slim down your Stormtroopers. Ditch the Impact grenades - they're nice to have but rarely NEEDED. The extra unit of Troopers would be better. Grappling Hooks as well - very very situational and you could free up points. 
     

If you remove the 30 points from long-range comms, the 15 points from Impact, and the 3 from Grappling Hooks you will free up 48 points. I'd suggest removing Force Push either way, unless you love it. There are 58 points. A DLT unit without the extra stormy costs 68, so to get a 4th DLT you'd have to remove one extra Stormtrooper from one Stormtrooper squad. 

This would leave you with Vader, 2 Bikes, and 4 DLT squads (2 with 1 extra trooper, 2 without). Pretty competitive list - a lot more point capture opportunity and less points spread around to things you will likely only use once or maybe twice per game.

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On 4/19/2018 at 8:19 AM, Copes said:

This would leave you with Vader, 2 Bikes, and 4 DLT squads (2 with 1 extra trooper, 2 without). Pretty competitive list - a lot more point capture opportunity and less points spread around to things you will likely only use once or maybe twice per game.
 

I would drop the 2 added extra troopers and add concussion grenades to all 4 groups, being able to kill stuff in cover with stormtroopers is nice

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