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As far as plausible civilian ships go this could be cool. its certainly the right size.

I assume it would be large base shuttle with an amazing dial and little else, which would be awesome.

A statline along the lines of 1/2/4/4, maybe with 2 crew, cannon, illicit, tech and a title that does something with illicits.

thats one thing the game doesnt have that makes perfect sense for scum, a fast, maneuverable transport for jetting around the galaxy quicker than the law. its both thematic and unexplored mechanically.

also holy **** does jabba need a ride

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So... something like this? 

 

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*DJ 

PS 8

0 Attack
2 Agility
4 hull
4 shields

Focus, Evade, Boost

Once per round, after you discard an [Illicit] Upgrade card, flip that card faceup.

Elite, System, Crew, Crew, Tech, Illicit

23 pts
 

 

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Dial: 

Speed 1: White turns, White banks, Green straight
Speed 2: Green turns, Green banks, Green straight
Speed 3: White turns, Green banks, green straight
Speed 4: White straight, Red Kturn

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

As far as plausible civilian ships go this could be cool. its certainly the right size.

I assume it would be large base shuttle with an amazing dial and little else, which would be awesome.

A statline along the lines of 1/2/4/4, maybe with 2 crew, cannon, illicit, tech and a title that does something with illicits.

thats one thing the game doesnt have that makes perfect sense for scum, a fast, maneuverable transport for jetting around the galaxy quicker than the law. its both thematic and unexplored mechanically.

also holy **** does jabba need a ride

I started typing before I saw your comment. 

I disagree with adding weapons to it. Especially a cannon slot. 

Other than that, yeah, we kinda agree on how the ship should look like. 

I think the title should do sth more interesting, but DJ can do stuff with Illicit stuff. Given his job and stuff. 

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3 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

So... something like this? 

 

 

If you’re giving it 0 atk it needs at least a cannon slot. Any ship in Star Wars is going to have some form of defense. Even palps shuttle pilot has offensive weaponry, and it’s essentially a space VIP bus.

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1 minute ago, FlyingAnchors said:

If you’re giving it 0 atk it needs at least a cannon slot. Any ship in Star Wars is going to have some form of defense. Even palps shuttle pilot has offensive weaponry, and it’s essentially a space VIP bus.

The presence of perma cloaked builds shows that there is a way to contribute to this game without dealing direct damage. If the ship has the tools to do so, and has enough incentives for supporting a playstyle like that, I think it is manageable. 

Also... DJ can technically use hot-shot blaster every round. 

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8 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

I started typing before I saw your comment. 

I disagree with adding weapons to it. Especially a cannon slot. 

Other than that, yeah, we kinda agree on how the ship should look like. 

I think the title should do sth more interesting, but DJ can do stuff with Illicit stuff. Given his job and stuff. 

One idea i had for the title was:

"you may use one of your (illicit upgrade slots) to equip a generic secondary weapon,  system, tech, modification, or  astromech upgrade. this upgrade costs twice its normal squad point price."

basically the idea that some rich jerk could throw whatever he wanted in for a price. I have a similar title i gave one of my custom ships, and it fits here. obviously all hypothetical but could be fun

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5 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

The presence of perma cloaked builds shows that there is a way to contribute to this game without dealing direct damage. If the ship has the tools to do so, and has enough incentives for supporting a playstyle like that, I think it is manageable. 

Also... DJ can technically use hot-shot blaster every round. 

what do you mean technically? i dont think this dudes in the game yet

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1 hour ago, Commander Kaine said:

Scum has a distinct lack of shuttles. And new era ships. They could use both. 

 

29 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

The great Jabba the Hutt will now listen to your pleas.

This is a point I will happily concede. The abject lack of non-Hounds Tooth two-crew scum ships makes me irreparably sad. If you could actually use Jabba in most games, then I think the cad could see some interesting use. Not to mention that I'd love to have other ways to get Maul+Outlaw Tech for endless shenanigans. 

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Jabba would have no interest in putting himself in danger nor is he some closet anti hero ready to shift the tide of battle. There is a reason his royal fatness is 6 tons of pure indulgence, he hires people to do his bidding staying faaaaaar away from conflict and taking advantage of lop-sided situations. You guys want him to have a light saber and force powers too? He has no business in a space battle outside of a capital ship.

 

Palp at least has legit reason and real power to affect a combat scenario. Still think the rebels could use a good 2 seater crew before scum get a pope modile for a fat coward.

Not trying to be salty just think there are far better options for scum leaders than a rich mafia boss that is basically morbidly obese to the point of being paraplegic. 

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2 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

Scum has a distinct lack of shuttles. And new era ships. They could use both. 

This is so true! but 50m... longer than the ghost... I think it is hopeless. Plus: This ship design have less than 3 sec onscreen. and in a way it is not even fully shown, better forget about it like I forgot the last indiana johnes

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1 hour ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Even palps shuttle pilot has offensive weaponry, and it’s essentially a space VIP bus.

It is a military space vip bus with both forward and backward facing canons an blaster. So ingame it is less offensive than in the "univers". my answer for a zero attack shuttle: ilicit ( or double ilicit!) slots designer to attack ( like the ilicit blaster or snapshot) or to push damage with other conditions than atacking ( rebel transport).

50 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:

Not trying to be salty just think there are far better options for scum leaders than a rich mafia boss that is basically morbidly obese to the point of being paraplegic. 

Jabba is in very good shape for a hut. I don't see why he should stay home when palp go fighting crime with two aces! My solution, errata on the card " hologram of palpatine, hologram of jabba.

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3 hours ago, LordFajubi said:

Jabba would have no interest in putting himself in danger nor is he some closet anti hero ready to shift the tide of battle. There is a reason his royal fatness is 6 tons of pure indulgence, he hires people to do his bidding staying faaaaaar away from conflict and taking advantage of lop-sided situations. You guys want him to have a light saber and force powers too? He has no business in a space battle outside of a capital ship.

 

Palp at least has legit reason and real power to affect a combat scenario. Still think the rebels could use a good 2 seater crew before scum get a pope modile for a fat coward.

Not trying to be salty just think there are far better options for scum leaders than a rich mafia boss that is basically morbidly obese to the point of being paraplegic. 

um who said x-wing battles were between willing participants? 

most fights involve an attacker and defender... who says jabba didnt get jumped in transit?

and why would the emperor be in a frigin tie-bomber? why would rebels fight other rebels? why can Vader dogfight Vader? it doesnt all make sense.

also, jabba died in a fight on a flying vehicle, so id say you might want to consider things from another angle

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5 hours ago, player2422845 said:

This is so true! but 50m... longer than the ghost... I think it is hopeless. Plus: This ship design have less than 3 sec onscreen. and in a way it is not even fully shown, better forget about it like I forgot the last indiana johnes

Uh, Quadjumper.

I like the @Commander Kaine idea with the @FlyingAnchors addition: 0 Attack, but the ability to arm itself.  It was the ship of an arms dealer, after all.

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8 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

So... something like this? 

 

 

So basically a large-base TIE Silencer with no guns?  I feel like DJ is too cheap for a ship with that dial, those upgrade slots, and a potential perma-Hot Shot Blaster.  26 points for a 3-dice turret at PS 8?  With a built in boost? Add Autothrusters and Dengar, and that's a really strong 31 points, with a bunch of free extras too.  I'd salivate for that as the anchor to a Thweek/Guri squad.

 

7 hours ago, player2422845 said:

This is so true! but 50m... longer than the ghost... I think it is hopeless. Plus: This ship design have less than 3 sec onscreen. and in a way it is not even fully shown, better forget about it like I forgot the last indiana johnes

Personally, I'm all in favor of saying "forget scale" and just make the thing a bit shorter than the Ghost model.  I'm not super excited for it in the game, though.

For screen time, interestingly, it shows up before DJ does.  It's landing on a platform in the approach shots to Canto Bight.  I mean, of course it is.  Whether someone likes it or not (I love it), folks have to admit that The Last Jedi was really tightly composed.

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6 hours ago, Vontoothskie said:

um who said x-wing battles were between willing participants? 

most fights involve an attacker and defender... who says jabba didnt get jumped in transit?

and why would the emperor be in a frigin tie-bomber? why would rebels fight other rebels? why can Vader dogfight Vader? it doesnt all make sense.

also, jabba died in a fight on a flying vehicle, so id say you might want to consider things from another angle

Um who said he would sit and fight? He’d most likely order any escort to cover his escape and hyper out as fast as he could. He’s obviously not a fighter pilot.

The same faction argument is old and kinda tired of seeing it but here we go. You can explain it with what if alternate realities but it changes nothing that it makes as much sense as ryu vs ryu in a fighting game. It’s still a fighting force vs a fighting force.

Lastly that flying vehicle you are referring to was close to the size of a football field and he was executed by a 90 pound girl while ******** his pants in a PANICED BAR FIGHT that was going **** up. Sorry but he is useless in a fight outside screaming save me.

Oh yeah and Palp can’t ride in the bomber bud, rules and such ?

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7 hours ago, LordFajubi said:

Um who said he would sit and fight? He’d most likely order any escort to cover his escape and hyper out as fast as he could. He’s obviously not a fighter pilot.

The same faction argument is old and kinda tired of seeing it but here we go. You can explain it with what if alternate realities but it changes nothing that it makes as much sense as ryu vs ryu in a fighting game. It’s still a fighting force vs a fighting force.

Lastly that flying vehicle you are referring to was close to the size of a football field and he was executed by a 90 pound girl while ******** his pants in a PANICED BAR FIGHT that was going **** up. Sorry but he is useless in a fight outside screaming save me.

Oh yeah and Palp can’t ride in the bomber bud, rules and such ?

youre really convinced your opinions are facts huh? the rules of the game say he can get in a ship, so he can.

in the EU and clone wars he is involved in multiple space battles. even if he wasnt, you are getting pretty nasty about something silly.

at the end of the day this is a 2 dimentional board game which treats little squares as spaceships. its incredibly fun but requires some suspension of disbelief. chill out

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Wow man, didn’t think I was being all that nasty about it but ok. You are correct he’s in the rules and it is what it is. Really couldn’t care less just find it silly and kinda dumb.

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