xanderf 6,788 Posted February 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, jmswood said: The visuals are fantastic. I’m still hoping all the talking points are part of a massive misinformation campaign. The relationship between Han & Chewie. the ownership history of the Millenium Falcon. The Kessel Run. The mystery surrounding these things is part of their appeal. The premise of the film is the very same mistake Lucas made with the prequels. Eh...no. The premise of the prequels, and indeed the overall arc of them, was a LOT more interesting than even the OT was. By a long shot - the prequels were telling a vastly more interesting story. And the added detail really improved everything, even about the existing movies. What let the prequels down was casting choices (the actors given Anakin's role needed to be...a lot better) and the writing of dialog (which Lucas has always struggled with, all the way back to '77 - the first drafts of Star Wars were not good). 3 1 FTS Gecko, SabineKey, Rexler Brath and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SabineKey 6,348 Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said: Perhaps this new TIE variant is a trainer craft? A flight instructor sits in the off centre pod. Possibly. If we are seeing Han go to the Academy, that might be some sort of special training exercise. There are a couple of possibilities that I can think of for the ship, but they are based on the assumption that the "clouds" are something dangerous, like a nebula or the interior of a gas giant. 1 Phoenix5454 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mithril2098 674 Posted February 5, 2018 Gif of the ISD and new fighter sequence. https://imgur.com/gallery/YuTzh 3 SabineKey, Odanan and Wiredin reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rexler Brath 173 Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, xanderf said: Eh...no. The premise of the prequels, and indeed the overall arc of them, was a LOT more interesting than even the OT was. By a long shot - the prequels were telling a vastly more interesting story. And the added detail really improved everything, even about the existing movies. What let the prequels down was casting choices (the actors given Anakin's role needed to be...a lot better) and the writing of dialog (which Lucas has always struggled with, all the way back to '77 - the first drafts of Star Wars were not good). Eh...no. The actors of the prequels are truly talented individuals. Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, and yes even Jake Lloyd. The problem wasn't casting, the problem was direction and bad dialog. So I agree with you that Ep 1, 2, 3 had bad dialog but I disagree that Ep 4, 5, 6 had bad dialog. Primarily because Lucas wasn't 100% in control of the dialog in the OT. 2 horsepire and Malasombra reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SabineKey 6,348 Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, mithril2098 said: Gif of the ISD and new fighter sequence. https://imgur.com/gallery/YuTzh It appears that there is only one of the new fighter, and the rest of the fighters dropping are standard TIEs. That seems to match the idea of it being a prototype and/or special use. 2 Odanan and KCDodger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deimos 122 Posted February 5, 2018 I am going to agree with those saying some sort of advanced sensors package/communication relay boost for wherever they are traveling. It'd explain why we don't see them in the other OT movies as the specialization of the craft would preclude the need for it to show up in the other battles. 2 SabineKey and Odanan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animewarsdude 3,639 Posted February 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, xanderf said: Eh...no. The premise of the prequels, and indeed the overall arc of them, was a LOT more interesting than even the OT was. By a long shot - the prequels were telling a vastly more interesting story. And the added detail really improved everything, even about the existing movies. What let the prequels down was casting choices (the actors given Anakin's role needed to be...a lot better) and the writing of dialog (which Lucas has always struggled with, all the way back to '77 - the first drafts of Star Wars were not good). Part of it was actors, or in my mind more Hayden Christensen since I think he only had tv work before then, though most of it was writing and direction. Lucas has never been a person who is good at direction people to give performances or writing human like dialogue. There is a reason he is associated with the direction "Faster and more intense" that he gives his actor. What he is good at is world building, big picture ideas, and pushing the boundaries of film making and special effects. I personally feel the prequels are hit and miss, I actually enjoy TPM aside from the overly long pod racing segment, I find ATOC mind numbing aside from Obi-wan's parts and the battle of Geonosis, and I decently like most of ROTS. However, what I really love about those films is their contribution to the lore bringing memorable planets, building on ideas and expanding the galaxy. I even don't mind Naboo being a relatively clean world, sure the galaxy is lived in but that doesn't mean there aren't places people will want to look clean at least on a surface level, just compare Coruscant at the upper floors compared to the lower ones. Still, what really makes that era for people I think is the Clone Wars, be it the show and its introduction of Ahsoka and depth, making Anakin likable, or giving the clones personality, or be it the Clone Wars Multi-media project of books and comics that were made in the lead up to episode three. 3 SabineKey, Azrapse and Alpha17 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Managarmr 2,353 Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Rexler Brath said: Do you have any citations for this 'slap-slick' idea? Sounds like propaganda to me. The reports that I have read claim 'creative differences' like here: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-how-the-han-solo-movie-directors-reporte/1100-6451196 IE, how the directors were actually doing their job and not the content of the movie. No citations, but the directors have on their track record the Lego movie (which was hilariously fun) and raining meatballs. Not exactly tragedies or high content drama... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KommanderKeldoth 3,141 Posted February 5, 2018 https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-how-the-han-solo-movie-directors-reporte/1100-6451196 Article also states that Lawrence Kasdan (the writer of Empire Strikes Back) was not pleased with how things were progressing. Don't have to put it all on Kathleen Kennedy. Sure, Disney's Star Wars is by no means perfect, but I'll take it over George's un-checked direction (no one saying no to him during the prequels) any day. 5 1 BlodVargarna, impspy, KCDodger and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odanan 5,439 Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said: Perhaps this new TIE variant is a trainer craft? A flight instructor sits in the off centre pod. Are Jawas working as flight instructors? Because that second pod is very small... 1 Phoenix5454 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminus-Est 71 Posted February 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Rexler Brath said: From what I have read, they were fired because they didn't bow down to Kathleen Kennedy and her SJW agenda. Crazy thought here, but maaaaybe comments like the above suggest Rexler's [citation needed] complaints aren't being made in entirely good faith. Seriously, there has to be some kind of Godwins Law corollary that applies here. 2 1 Jarval, Rexler Brath and KommanderKeldoth reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 24,135 Posted February 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Rexler Brath said: Phil Lord & Christopher Miller haven't made a bad movie yet... Well, considering the only films they've directed are The Lego Movie, Cloudy With a Chance Of Meatballs and the two Jump Street movies, that's not really saying much, is it? 2 1 Phoenix5454, Rexler Brath and RufusDaMan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 11,041 Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Terminus-Est said: Crazy thought here, but maaaaybe comments like the above suggest Rexler's [citation needed] complaints aren't being made in entirely good faith. Seriously, there has to be some kind of Godwins Law corollary that applies here. That's why it's best to take Rexler's star wars criticisms with an entire salt shaker rather than any singular grain of salt. 4 1 KommanderKeldoth, Terminus-Est, Phoenix5454 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tam Palso 232 Posted February 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said: I'm thinking either scout/command/control or gunner pod for a heavy cannon. Porg carrier. 2 1 Odanan, Phoenix5454 and KommanderKeldoth reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That Blasted Samophlange 6,923 Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Odanan said: Are Jawas working as flight instructors? Because that second pod is very small... No, the average TIE is quite spacious inside. Remember they can fit a Lasat, Twi’lek and a Mandalorian. The pod to the side will, yes, compared to the main cockpit be small, it could possibly fit a human sitting down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbilo 255 Posted February 5, 2018 13 hours ago, Odanan said: :/ Guys that's just the TIE shuttle modification title card 1 Wiredin reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animewarsdude 3,639 Posted February 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gibbilo said: Guys that's just the TIE shuttle modification title card "Oh no, the Imperials are seeing less play, quick make it so you can take Palpatine as crew on an Academy Pilot!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eMeM 3,188 Posted February 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Gibbilo said: Guys that's just the TIE shuttle modification title card TIE Shuttle in most sources looks just like TIE Bomber, in TESB noone knows exactly but it's more like this: 3 RufusDaMan, Kyle Ren and Odanan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix5454 334 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, eMeM said: TIE Shuttle in most sources looks just like TIE Bomber, in TESB noone knows exactly but it's more like this: The TIE shuttle is depicted on the title card in game, it's just a TIE Bomber by appearances but (I imagine) with the ordnance pod having seats in it instead of, you guessed it, ordnance! Although I wouldnt mind launching imperial crew cards at other ships, could be an interesting game mechanic *sarcasm* Edited February 5, 2018 by Phoenix5454 Auto correct spelling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eMeM 3,188 Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Phoenix5454 said: The TIE shuttle is depicted on the title card in game, it's just a TIE Bomber by appearances but (I imagine) with the ordinance pod having seats in it instead of, you guessed it, ordinance! Although I wouldnt mind launching imperial crew cards at other ships, could be an interesting game mechanic *sarcasm* Yeah, that's how most sources do it, although: 2 Odanan and Kyle Ren reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timathius 2,152 Posted February 5, 2018 Full trailer is up now 1 2 SabineKey, Odanan and Boom Owl reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Deathrain 5,232 Posted February 5, 2018 Is it just me or does the actor just not look the part? I feel like I'll be having trouble identifying Han in the movie. 2 Alpha17 and KCDodger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patox 2,020 Posted February 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, eMeM said: TIE Shuttle in most sources looks just like TIE Bomber, in TESB noone knows exactly but it's more like this: 3 eMeM, Kyle Ren and Odanan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlodVargarna 4,041 Posted February 5, 2018 9 hours ago, xanderf said: The premise of the prequels, and indeed the overall arc of them, was a LOT more interesting than even the OT was. By a long shot - the prequels were telling a vastly more interesting story. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RufusDaMan 2,299 Posted February 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Phoenix5454 said: The TIE shuttle is depicted on the title card in game, it's just a TIE Bomber by appearances but (I imagine) with the ordinance pod having seats in it instead of, you guessed it, ordinance! Although I wouldnt mind launching imperial crew cards at other ships, could be an interesting game mechanic *sarcasm* http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ordinance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites