Solo Trailer to Drop on SuperBowl

[Rexler Brath 173]

Gonna be another crappy Disney SW movie.

 

Interesting Fact: TLJ was removed in all theatres in China just after 2 weeks.  It bombed there bc its a bad movie.

[RufusDaMan 2,299]

1 hour ago, Schu81 said:

I have got a really bad feeling about this.

Might ruin the Han Solo character forever. There will probably be plenty of women making him look stupid. Then there will be a lot of Leslie Nielson like humor.

And the falcon is going to be used to rescue animals or something. Of course the falcon is going to have completely different look with without any reasoning why. Then we are going to ask ourselves how the falcon could be modified to get the look it had in Episode IV.

We should not care about such things though. Just buy the toys and shut up

 

New falcon! Yay!

Wookiees probably. So yes. Animals

[Vordyn 132]

2 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

So. When the scum falcon comes out and it will be the most op thing ever (almost sure of it) can we agree that the developers have giant boners for them?

Possibly, but the Jumpmaster was deliberately pushed ( acknowledged by the developers ) to try and get scum into the game ( to much so alas ), bombs/mines being pushed and stress shenanigans were supposed to give scum answers to token stacking untouchable aces and rebel regen to counter there general fragility ( Asajj excepted of course ).

[xanderf 6,788]

8 hours ago, Vordyn said:

But seriously if they do, it'll be a SWX06 repack/repaint ?, they won't do a third sculpt will they ?

Kinda looks like it'd need to be a new sculpt...

[xanderf 6,788]

Bah, double post...

Edited February 1, 2018 by xanderf

[RufusDaMan 2,299]

2 hours ago, Vordyn said:

Possibly, but the Jumpmaster was deliberately pushed ( acknowledged by the developers ) to try and get scum into the game ( to much so alas ), bombs/mines being pushed and stress shenanigans were supposed to give scum answers to token stacking untouchable aces and rebel regen to counter there general fragility ( Asajj excepted of course ).

Oh I see. Where is the imperial answer for scum? 

[Sekac 3,506]

2 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

Gonna be another crappy Disney SW movie.

 

Interesting Fact: TLJ was removed in all theatres in China just after 2 weeks.  It bombed there bc its a bad movie.

It's a bad movie only in China or it's a bad movie and only the citizens of China realize it?

 

[Rexler Brath 173]

2 minutes ago, Sekac said:

It's a bad movie only in China or it's a bad movie and only the citizens of China realize it?

The Chinese did not grow up with the OT so have no loyalty to the star wars franchise.  Because TLJ was a bad movie, it did poorly there since there isn't the star wars fanaticism driving people to the theatres.  It reviewed poorly there.
As for realising its a bad movie, I think the Rotten Tomatoes user review scores speak for themselves.

 

[Sekac 3,506]

11 minutes ago, Rexler Brath said:

The Chinese did not grow up with the OT so have no loyalty to the star wars franchise.  Because TLJ was a bad movie, it did poorly there since there isn't the star wars fanaticism driving people to the theatres.  It reviewed poorly there.
As for realising its a bad movie, I think the Rotten Tomatoes user review scores speak for themselves.

 

And yet the critics reviews don't. Kinda blows a hole in your star wars fanaticism is the only thing keeping it going theory. If star wars fanatics don't like it, how exactly is the fanaticism an ongoing benefit for the movie beyond opening week?

I never pay attention to user reviews, certainly not those of Star Wars fans. The general consensus I've seen is:

1) prequels were too different from OT and therefore sucked.

2) TFA was too similar to OT and therefore sucked.

3) TLJ was too Goldilocks and therefore sucked. 

Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again. When star wars fans in general come to terms with that, then maybe they'll start judging movies on their own rather than make constant comparisons.

Maybe then I'll consider their opinions worth something. 

Edited February 1, 2018 by Sekac

[Rexler Brath 173]

11 minutes ago, Sekac said:

And yet the critics reviews don't. Kinda blows a hole in your star wars fanaticism is the only thing keeping it going theory. If star wars fanatics don't like it, how exactly is the fanaticism an ongoing benefit for the movie beyond opening week?

I never pay attention to user reviews, certainly not those of Star Wars fans. The general consensus I've seen is:

1) prequels were too different from OT and therefore sucked.

2) TFA was too similar to OT and therefore sucked.

3) TLJ was too Goldilocks and therefore sucked. 

Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again. When star wars fans in general come to terms with that, then maybe they'll start judging movies on their own rather than make constant comparisons.

Maybe then I'll consider their opinions worth something. 

The critics were paid off by Disney.  That is my theory.

TLJ was a bad movie because 

• Major Plot Holes
• Internal Inconsistencies
• External Inconsistencies (with the other movies)
• Poor and almost non-existent Character Development
• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)
• The overall Plot is bad (doesn't make sense and is just very boring)
• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monster)

> Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

Strawman.  TLJ is a bad movie b/c its a bad movie, not because OT was great.

> George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again.

First of all, George Lucas didn't capture anything.  It was the team of people (writers, directors, actors, special effects, etc) that make the OT great.  George was just 1 part of that (and I would say the OT was great despite George).

George Lucas is not required to make a great movie.  There are 'great' movies still produced.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Rexler Brath

[TheVeteranSergeant 367]

5 hours ago, Dabirdisdaword said:

I know this feel.

"Solo trailer at superbowl"

Not American and not many sports fans amongst my star wars nerds. Doesn't seem like much crossover from my perspective. This weekend you say? Well hopefully non American non americanfootball fans get a trailer to watch on YouTube or something.

They debuted the long-form trailer for The Last Jedi during an NFL game earlier in the season.

 

Honestly, this is what I figured would happen.  With a Star Wars movie already in theaters, Disney didn't want to distract from TLJ's run.   They wait until this weekend, they get a massive audience for the Solo movie trailer.  And they still have three months until its release.  It's important to not to confuse the marketing calendar with any other Star Wars movie with this one.  They've never been released this close together.  It made sense to delay the marketing for Solo.  At least in context to the way they've marketed the other Star Wars films to date.  It's just on a compressed timeline because they didn't want to be marketing two Star Wars films at once.

 

Now, whether or not Solo will be any good, that's another story.  I kinda hope that the over-funny Buddy Comedy Humor garbage that tainted TFA and TLJ (even Rogue One to a small extent) might actually work in a story about Han Solo and Lando, who are... you know, buddies.

[KCDodger 11,041]

3 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

Gonna be another crappy Disney SW movie.

 

Interesting Fact: TLJ was removed in all theatres in China just after 2 weeks.  It bombed there bc its a bad movie.

[citation needed]

also
>Imperial player angry about something regarding Star Wars

why's it almost always you guys
 

9 minutes ago, Sekac said:

And yet the critics reviews don't. Kinda blows a hole in your star wars fanaticism is the only thing keeping it going theory. If star wars fanatics don't like it, how exactly is the fanaticism an ongoing benefit for the movie beyond opening week?

I never pay attention to user reviews, certainly not those of Star Wars fans. The general consensus I've seen is:

1) prequels were too different from OT and therefore sucked.

2) TFA was too similar to OT and therefore sucked.

3) TLJ was too Goldilocks and therefore sucked. 

Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again. When star wars fans in general come to terms with that, then maybe they'll start judging movies on their own rather than make constant comparisons.

Maybe then I'll consider their opinions worth something. 

Yeah, it's... Star Wars fans are an unpleasable bunch. Honestly worse than Star Trek fans. "Nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans" is more than a meme at this point, it's a **** fact. It's sad as ****, to me.

1 minute ago, Rexler Brath said:

The critics were paid off by Disney.  That is my theory.

TLJ was a bad movie because 

• Major Plot Holes
• Internal Inconsistencies
• External Inconsistencies (with the other movies)
• Poor and almost non-existent Character Development
• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)
• The overall Plot is bad (doesn't make sense and is just very boring)
• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monitor)

> Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

Strawman.  TLJ is a bad movie b/c its a bad movie, not because OT was great.

> George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again.

First of all, George Lucas didn't capture anything.  It was the team of people (writers, directors, actors, special effects, etc) that make the OT great.  George was just 1 part of that (and I would say the OT was great despite George).

George Lucas is not required to make a great movie.  There are 'great' movies still produced.

Okay so, you like facts so much right? Here's one for you.

Star Wars literally would not have happened without George Lucas. I don't think you understand that a project needs somebody to start and see it through.

[TheVeteranSergeant 367]

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Star Wars literally would not have happened without George Lucas. I don't think you understand that a project needs somebody to start and see it through.

That wasn't at all what he said...

[Rexler Brath 173]

7 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

[citation needed]

There are many reports of this, here you go (google search power)

• https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-china-box-office-why-disneys-jedi-mind-trick-isnt-working-china-1075177
• http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-the-last-jedi-pulled-from-china-after-just-two-weeks
• https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-chinese-theaters/
• http://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/01/17/star-wars-the-last-jedi-dropped-china-movie-theaters/
• http://www.nme.com/news/film/star-wars-last-jedi-pulled-cinemas-china-2221065

 

7 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

also
>Imperial player angry about something regarding Star Wars

why's it almost always you guys

Who is angry?  Are you accusing me of being angry?  Why?  For pointing out that TLJ was a bad movie?

 

7 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Star Wars literally would not have happened without George Lucas. I don't think you understand that a project needs somebody to start and see it through.

Strawman.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Rexler Brath

[DagobahDave 1,621]

3 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Responses to points: 

1.  As mentioned, Han, Lando, and likely other characters are not in the rebellion.   Gamewise scum faction fits.   Though Bink and Tag could be a cross faction unique, kind of like BoShek.

2. We know it is before A new Hope, Han is about 10 years older than Leia, and the rebellion started to form at the end of Episode 3.  

3. Going by leaked Lego sets, a mobile arc would be welcomed, but the cannon(s) pictured only had one barrel.   A two dice attack is more likely.  

1. We don't know anything about the situations in this movie yet. The protagonists may not be card-carrying Rebels but that doesn't mean Scum is going to be a better fit.

3. The Lego version looks like a pretty serious gun to me, like a heavy laser cannon, but who knows. I just think if you're going to trade away the 3-dice primary turret for a more limited field of fire, you'd want to give it more firepower.

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Don't care about the movie, looking forward to scum tears when it's 2attack like the ors.

[Sekac 3,506]

1 hour ago, Rexler Brath said:

The critics were paid off by Disney.  That is my theory.

TLJ was a bad movie because 

• Major Plot Holes
• Internal Inconsistencies
• External Inconsistencies (with the other movies)
• Poor and almost non-existent Character Development
• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)
• The overall Plot is bad (doesn't make sense and is just very boring)
• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monster)

> Got it. Every attempt at Star Wars that doesn't measure up exactly to one of the most (if not the very most) iconic movie franchises of all time, then it sticks. 

Strawman.  TLJ is a bad movie b/c its a bad movie, not because OT was great.

> George Lucas captured lightning in a bottle with the OT and that's never, ever happening again.

First of all, George Lucas didn't capture anything.  It was the team of people (writers, directors, actors, special effects, etc) that make the OT great.  George was just 1 part of that (and I would say the OT was great despite George).

George Lucas is not required to make a great movie.  There are 'great' movies still produced.

On your list, your last 3 points are purely subjective. The character development I agree with some characters and disagree with others. Still, hardly a statement of fact.

I agree that there are internal and external inconsistencies with the other movies, but that's an issue completely consistent with every Star Wars movie! Do lightsabers cut you or make you evaporate? Watch A New Hope again and tell me it's not "both". Did anybody scream "that's not how The Force works!" when Luke banked torpedoes 90 degrees and hit the death star's core? No. They said, "huh. Maybe that's how The Force works..." and kept watching.

Star Wars has always been a sloppy, silly, messy storyline but the original trilogy had the magic spice of having a real on-screen chemistry between the cast that isn't easily replicated. I'm not saying Lucas deserves full credit, but it was lightning in a bottle. 

And since then we've had nearly 41 years to fully digest the original trilogy and the many, many comics, novels, videogames, encyclopedias, etc. Star Wars is a giant sandbox we've all been playing in for most or all of our lives and we bring a TON of baggage to the theater with us.

Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.

 

 

[RufusDaMan 2,299]

2 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

• Major Plot Holes
• Internal Inconsistencies
• External Inconsistencies (with the other movies)
• Poor and almost non-existent Character Development
• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)
• The overall Plot is bad (doesn't make sense and is just very boring)
• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monster)

 

• How long was Luke on Dagobah really?
• "Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise"- beaten by teddy bears. "Once you start down the dark path, forever it will dominate your destiny" - except if you are Luke, then you can feed off your anger to beat Vader, and act like it's no big deal.
• Yeah, its not like they changed the actor for the Emperor between two movies.
• Boba Fett, Iconic character, with 5 lines and no personality whatsoever. Who is the Emperor really? Just a nameless dark side user of the Force, and he dies like a total wimp...
• 3PO is such a fun and well written character, delivering just the right lines at the best moments. It couldn't possibly be that you have stockholm syndrome over bad jokes.
• A farmboy becomes a space wizard to destroy the moon sized battle station of the evil empire. He is also the son of the evil space wizard. If that's not a load of nonsense, I don't know what is.
• JABBA LICKING LEIA

[Rexler Brath 173]

8 minutes ago, Sekac said:

On your list, your last 3 points are purely subjective. The character development I agree with some characters and disagree with others. Still, hardly a statement of fact.

• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)

Is it subjective if the majority of people agree?  Is it subjective when the vast majority of people DO NOT LAUGH?  Does it even matter if its subjective if the majority of people agree?

Because that is the case, the joke timing was bad and the jokes were bad.

• The overall Plot is bad (doesn't make sense and is just very boring)

The plot is bad.  Its a long and drawn out car chase that could have ended before it even started (hyper driving into the empire or the empire hyperdriving a star destroyer into them).

• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monster)

I don't know anyone who doensn't think the scene with look drinking milk isn't gross.  I guess you can have some sick wierdos who think its normal, but the average person is going to think that scene is unpleasant.

Also, did I ever claim any or all of my statements as fact?  Seems you are attempting to pull a strawman.

14 minutes ago, Sekac said:

Star Wars has always been a sloppy, silly, messy storyline

I disagree.

 

15 minutes ago, Sekac said:

And since then we've had nearly 41 years to fully digest the original trilogy and the many, many comics, novels, videogames, encyclopedias, etc. Star Wars is a giant sandbox we've all been playing in for most or all of our lives and we bring a TON of baggage to the theater with us.

Not china.  China is evidence TLJ is trash and a bad movie.  Only 2 weeks and its out of the theatre.  Thank you for proving my point.

[RufusDaMan 2,299]

Rexler if one is to understand the great Franchise, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the OT purists. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of Star Wars...

[SabineKey 6,348]

2 minutes ago, Rexler Brath said:

• Not china.  China is evidence TLJ is trash and a bad movie.  Only 2 weeks and its out of the theatre.  Thank you for proving my point.

Sorry, not trusting China on their movie taste considering what's hit it big over there (like Transformers).

[Sekac 3,506]

21 minutes ago, Rexler Brath said:

• Horribly Joke Timing (and bad jokes in general)

Is it subjective if the majority of people agree?  Is it subjective when the vast majority of people DO NOT LAUGH?  Does it even matter if its subjective if the majority of people agree?

Because that is the case, the joke timing was bad and the jokes were bad.

•  

The reality of movie making in the 21st century is that you either make an all-ages super blockbuster or a low budget "artistic film". Unless you can put the streaming/pirating genie back in the bottle, in-between options are not financially viable. 

The reality of all-ages super blockbusters is there are moments that are tailored to younger audiences. Kids aren't the majority, but there are enough that having kid-friendly jokes are going to happen. You might groan. 

30 minutes ago, Rexler Brath said:

•  

• Gross Scene (Luke drinking milk from a lactating space monster)

I don't know anyone who doensn't think the scene with look drinking milk isn't gross.  I guess you can have some sick wierdos who think its normal, but the average person is going to think that scene is unpleasant.

Gross scenes make movies bad?

How'd you like that hott twin make-out scene in ESB, btw? Boy I thought Echo Base was gonna melt!  

Pretty pleasant, eh? 

[Rexler Brath 173]

Nerd Crew does a good job reviewing the new trailer: https://www.youtube.com/embed/80T59B2RVOo

[Dr Zoidberg 3,200]

8 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

Gonna be another crappy Disney SW movie.

 

Interesting Fact: TLJ was removed in all theatres in China just after 2 weeks.  It bombed there bc its a bad movie.

I saw it here in Beijing. It doesn’t surprise me that it didn’t stay long. 

Star Wars doesn’t hold the same cultural zeitgeist here that it does in the West. Remember ANH was released towards the end of the cultural revolution and the films were banned for years. China still has a quota on how many foreign films can be shown in cinemas here. 

From memeory, there was special screenings of the original trilogy to celebrate the release of TFA and it was possibly the first time the films had been shown officially in a Chinese cinema.  I’ll see if I can find the article  

To give you an idea of just how unfamiliar Chinese cinema goers are with Star Wars; when TLJ screened here every time a major character first appeared, a small blurb (in Mandarin and English) appeared on the screen explaining who the character was and where they fit into things. 

 

Edited February 2, 2018 by Dr Zoidberg

[Rexler Brath 173]

2 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

I saw it here in Beijing. It doesn’t surprise me that it didn’t say long. 

Star Wars doesn’t hold the same cultural zeitgeist here that it does in the West. Remember ANH was released towards the end of the cultural revolution and the films were banned for years. China still has a quota on how many foreign films can be shown in cinemas here. 

To give you an idea of just how unfamiliar Chinese cinema goers are with Star Wars; when it screened here every time a major character first appeared, a small blurb (in Mandarin and English) appeared on the screen explaining who the character was and where they fit into things. 

 

A film should stand on its own.  Obviously TLJ does not.  Chinese do not like it.  But just because the Chinese didn't grow up with a franchise, doesn't mean they won't like a franchise.  WoW did very well for instance.  If you are in Beijing, you should know that the movie was reviewed very poorly in China and it was removed from the theatres because it did poorly the opening week.  It did poorly the opening week because it was a bad movie, not because it was a Star Wars movie.