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The first "campaign" for Descent that released with the app was just a series of side quests put together. Kindred fire used those side quests again within its campaign. So technically the first campaign was kindred fire. It was however a full campaign unlike the abbreviated version we got.

i hope the next one dropped is at least 8 missions long. 

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1 hour ago, FrogTrigger said:

The first "campaign" for Descent that released with the app was just a series of side quests put together. Kindred fire used those side quests again within its campaign. So technically the first campaign was kindred fire. It was however a full campaign unlike the abbreviated version we got.

i hope the next one dropped is at least 8 missions long. 

And it dropped just 6 weeks after the app was released. We're at over 4 months now.

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Anticipation builds as nothing has yet been announced today...

 

In what creative way will we be disappointed today?

 

 

edit: 

 

Well, I guess it was "creative".

 

 

edit edit:  Ah, and Legion still gets an article.

 

No, I totally didn't get my hopes up when I saw flametrooper art in the jpeg.  And briefly saw the word "campaign" (loose interpretation of that, btw)

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12 minutes ago, The Cocky Rooster said:

Become a Rebel with Tyrants of Lothal (SWI54), a new small box expansion for Imperial Assault, available now from your local retailer!

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Fantasy Flight Games is proud to announce Tyrants of Lothal, a new expansion for Imperial Assault, available for pre-order now from your local retailer!

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On 3/30/2018 at 10:54 PM, subtrendy2 said:

Right, Legion dropped, but they weren't gonna hold of on everything IA just to steal Legion's thunder in a week.  I expect it'll probably be at least 2-4 weeks before we hear anything, still.

 

And not sure you saw, but it looks like at least some Rebels stuff seems likely...

Finally some news! Tyrants of Lothal and the rest of Rebels crew.

Yes indeed, the trend was inevitably going into Rebels. As said before, by no means I am fond of Rebels, however, every cloud has a silver lining, and my reasons for liking this release which definitely puts a stop to the Legion invasion are:

1) T.H.R.A.W.N.

2) Death Troopers. This is exciting news. This can be a precedent for the releases to come. With Death Troopers in play, I foresee  the beginning of a trend towards Rogue 1 (which I feel should deserve a big box expansion), and perhaps later on, Solo and the final third anthology movie.

3) Lothal Tiles. New tiles in different planets are always welcome. I guess we will getting some meadow lands to enrich our tile ecosystem. I´`'d love to see one day Mustafar (volcanic setting) and Scarif (jungle and beach setting) and Death Star tiles.

4) Tyrants of Lothal is a small box. Fair is to say that big box expansions  outperform small box expansions in every department. Therefore, I am glad that they have kept this rebels expansion to a small box. After this release, I consider the cycle of Rebels releases complete, and  feel that they should be moving on to different pastures and more adult themes.

To me, the age average of people playing IA  is much more older (and complex :D) than the age average for which Rebels series was designed for, therefore no reason for lingering with more Rebels. From this point, I only see 2 paths to move  IA onwards thematically:

either Rogue 1 (which I feel very likely with Death Troopers),

and/or Endor (which I feel very unlikely, but in my own humid dreams, a perfect setting for creating the two massive aspects that I feel IA is leaving out: an Imperial-based campaign and a merc-based campaign. And what if all of the existing IA boxes could  also be played with a team of Imperial heroes or mercenaries? Surely, new campaign books and more rebel minis as enemies would be needed, but who would not like to break bad in Hoth, Tatooine, etc.?

 

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People who don't like rebels never watched the final few seasons. Not quite as dark as clone wars got, but definitely more "adult" (what does this term even mean relative to our subject? We are playing a board game where we move miniatures around a map and roll dice.. lol..) than it is given credit for. The Ahsoka/Vader fight alone is worth watching the entire series. But the entire story line is great and while it does brush up against existing content (if we're condemning rebels for this you should probabaly also do the same for r1... and the new trilogy), it mainly offers its own unique story that fills a small niche in the Star Wars history. I don't want to comment to much on this as it is spoiler filled but the way they ended the series was so satisfying. 

Nothing in your post is by any means a revelation, all pretty general knowledge we already knew or many have already predicted. Just wanted to comment on the silly fans, rebels is for kids!! portion. 

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15 hours ago, Tell me more said:

To me, the age average of people playing IA  is much more older (and complex :D) than the age average for which Rebels series was designed for, therefore no reason for lingering with more Rebels.

 

I'm curious about how much of Rebels you've seen. The storylines and interpersonal relatio ships were pretty deep for a "kid's show". It did a fine job of keeping to the feel of the original triology. (And, I think that Kanan is my favorite Jedi, after Obi-Wan.)

I do think there won't be any more Rebels releases after this (although, if they could squeeze in Ruhk and Kallus, I won't complain), but my son and I have been hoping for a Rebels box for a while! I'm pumped about this one.

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On 4/14/2018 at 10:48 AM, FrogTrigger said:

The Ahsoka/Vader fight alone is worth watching the entire series. But the entire story line is great and while it does brush up against existing content (if we're condemning rebels for this you should probabaly also do the same for r1... and the new trilogy), it mainly offers its own unique story that fills a small niche in the Star Wars history.

21 hours ago, rbaker1978 said:

I'm curious about how much of Rebels you've seen. The storylines and interpersonal relatio ships were pretty deep for a "kid's show". It did a fine job of keeping to the feel of the original triology. (And, I think that Kanan is my favorite Jedi, after Obi-Wan.)

 

I have watched Rebels from beginning till the end once, to kill the hunger of  more Star Wars and, certainly,  I will be getting this box and all the minis in due time, the same as you will. But this is not my point.  I take for granted that everyone with some spare time to write in this forum and to purchase and play with these expensive IA toys is a deep Star Wars fan.

It is true that rebels has some memorable moments, my favourites being  primarily the series finales. However, the point I am trying to convey is that, as I feel that rebels  is orientated to a juvenile audience,  when I play IA, I like to do it with characters/minis which represent and clearly show in their audiovisual material the complexities of grown adults. I will explain myself more clear: 

Firstly, Rebels lacks explicit violence which you can clearly see in the original trilogy and rogue 1. In the vast majority of cases, the stormtroopers and/or any other ground troops in rebels are either stunned, made unconscious, immobilised, tied or any other ingenious mechanism you can think of that avoids showing an explicit murder committed by the Ghost crew. Violence and murder is an adult theme, which tends to be avoided in rebels.  For me, in this war of stars, violence is  a necessary means. Wars are all about violence. Therefore, I feel more passionate about playing IA and defeating enemies with characters which clearly show more deadly instincts  (eg. the kind of what Rogue 1 minis would be for instance), than those in Rebels.

Secondly, Rebels does not have a love story, similar to the love between Han and Leia, to give an example. Love. I do not mean friends love, but couples love (love that eventually leads to sex and reproduction). This kind of love is an adult theme. Therefore, I like playing more with Leia and Han on the table, or with any other established couple with love interests for that matter, than I will possibly be with Sabine or Ezra. Personally, when playing IA figures  whose audiovisual counterparts are drawn from films or series featuring them with deep personal feelings and loving interests, I feel those characters (ergo minis) more real, more recognisable and human. The fact than I am playing with them on their 28mm version, I found it more enjoyable.

Thirdly, Rebels  lacks the kind of moral ambiguities that are shown in rogue 1. I refer to rebels killing in cold blood or trying to do so. Non politically correct decisions and moral ambiguities is an adult theme.  These are out there, everywhere in the real world, on our planet. They give realism to any fictional drama. When I play IA, I like to play with minis that belong to a world where there is not that clear cut between good and evil. Rebels tends to be overly black or white, if you know what I mean.

For these reasons and to conclude, if you give me the chance of spending a  FF budget on IA minis and a box game, I would choose FIRST spending these resources  on an adaptation of Rogue 1 (and possibly Solo) rather than rebels. I can guarantee you that I will play Tyrants of Lothal, because I am passionate about the mechanics of the game. But the fact that  I do not wish more rebels minis coming up because I feel there are other interesting settings to explore which rely more on adult themes, that does not mean that I consider rebels  series a joke or a sub-product. 

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2 hours ago, Tell me more said:

 

Secondly, Rebels does not have a love story, similar to the love between Han and Leia, to give an example. 

Thirdly, Rebels  lacks the kind of moral ambiguities that are shown in rogue 1. I refer to rebels killing in cold blood or trying to do so. Non politically correct decisions and moral ambiguities is an adult theme.  These are out there, everywhere in the real world, on our planet. They give realism to any fictional drama. When I play IA, I like to play with minis that belong to a world where there is not that clear cut between good and evil. Rebels tends to be overly black or white, if you know what I mean.

If you go back through my posts you won't find much bigger a Rebels detractor than me.  But you are incorrect on both these counts.  Is the violence less D-Day in Saving Private Ryan? Yes, but overly graphic violence doesn't make something adult, anymore than sex does.  I find a lot of so called adult shows that feature gratuitous sex and violence to be the opposite of adult, they are juvenile; designed to appeal to prurient interests rather than serving the story.  

The Hera/Kanan will they, won't they relationship, culminating in Kanan's final sacrifice, is, frankly, better than Han and Leia's short romance in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.  I'm not saying it was bad, it was decent.  We all remember I love you, I know, but it wasn't all that deep.  Rebels, given its format, has much more time to explore that theme, and it does so more deeply.   Rebels started out very badly in my opinon.  The first season, and most of the second season, were crap, but it got its stride towards the end of the second season, and did a great deal with it for the remainder of the series.  

If you want moral ambiguity, I point you to Maul's attempt to manipulate Ezra away from Kanan and to fully embrace the dark side.  Maul force chocking the inquisitor, goading Ezra to strike her down, and then throwing his lightsaber in anger when he didn't do it, is a dark as anything in rogue one.  His subsequent gas-lighting of Ezra in order to trick him into leading him to Obi Wan was a very good arc.  And then, Thrawn.  Thrawn was even better in Rebels than he was in the Zahn books.  

If the animation had been better, the final two seasons, save some still silly stuff, would have beaten out almost any of the live action films.  

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10 hours ago, Tell me more said:

I do not wish more rebels minis coming up because I feel there are other interesting settings to explore which rely more on adult themes, that does not mean that I consider rebels  series a joke or a sub-product. 

Rebels was a show that was appealing to kids.  Not unlike the original movies.  If you feel embarrassed being an adult and watching a children's cartoon, then Rogue One was the movie for you.  Finally, Star Wars can be taken seriously, and we can get that gritty war movie we've been clamouring for since we were kids.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to dip out of this chat about a kid's show so I can paint my little plastic space men.

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To be fair, I kinda get where the frustration with Rebels comes this time, even though I personally love the show and am extremely excited for this release.

 

In the past, Rebels stuff has been packaged with other stuff.  The Grand Inquisitor came out alongside Obi Wan and Greedo. 

 

Hera and Chop were released with Jawas and comics characters.  Even Heart of the Empire contained stuff outside Rebels (at least, Rebels at that time) with Palpatine, Clawdites, and the Riot Troopers.

 

With Tyrants of Lothal (by the way, that might be one of the best campaign names so far) pretty much everything is Rebels inspired, even one of the two heroes.  All ally/villains are straight out of the show, and lothcats are obviously from Rebels.  The only thing that isn't pretty much exclusively from animated Star Wars are the deathtroopers, though we probably saw more of them in Rebels than Rogue One now anyway.

 

So as good as the show is, some people have bad taste (joking!) and either don't enjoy it or haven't watched it.  At least, if you're in the latter group, I'd encourage you to give it a try.  When the Droids wave was announced, I had no idea who Hera, Chopper, BT-1, or 0-0-0 were.  That's when I got into the comics and Rebels, and I'm very pleased with both of those decisions.  It maybe wasn't the Star Wars that I knew- but it's the Star Wars that I know and love now.

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1 hour ago, subtrendy2 said:

So as good as the show is, some people have bad taste (joking!) and either don't enjoy it or haven't watched it.  At least, if you're in the latter group, I'd encourage you to give it a try.  When the Droids wave was announced, I had no idea who Hera, Chopper, BT-1, or 0-0-0 were.  That's when I got into the comics and Rebels, and I'm very pleased with both of those decisions.  It maybe wasn't the Star Wars that I knew- but it's the Star Wars that I know and love now.

I had no idea who BT-1 and 0-0-0 where when the blister came out.  Someone told me and I went to explore this Dr. Aphra comic and was so, so very sorry I did.  Sorry to those who like it, but it's absolute crap.  I kind of dig on BT-1 though.  Still, not excuse for those characters to be released instead of Zuckuss and 4-LOM.

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1 minute ago, Rikalonius said:

I had no idea who BT-1 and 0-0-0 where when the blister came out.  Someone told me and I went to explore this Dr. Aphra comic and was so, so very sorry I did.  Sorry to those who like it, but it's absolute crap.  I kind of dig on BT-1 though.  Still, not excuse for those characters to be released instead of Zuckuss and 4-LOM.

That's on whoever told you to read Aphra first.

 

Should've started with Vader, friend.  That's actually their first appearance anyway, aside from generally being a much better run.

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I'm quite happy to get Death troopers (yeah non-white troopers!) and Thrawn (Have not seen Rebels but recall him from Legends and he was great).  I may not be as excited as I was when Jabba's Realm was announced, but we are having new IA stuff!  You're not going to read me complaining that's for sure!  And from my experience, there is no such thing as luck great surprises often show up when you expect them the least!    

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2 hours ago, IanSolo_FFG said:

And from my experience, there is no such thing as luck great surprises often show up when you expect them the least!    

Ain't that the truth!  I can't say I was particularly excited about anything in the Heart of the Empire spoilers as far as figures go.  I mean I guess there was Palpatine, and Drokkotta looked kind of cool, but the rest of the units didn't do a whole lot for me thematically.  But then came the fixes for Vader, Han and Chewie, which completely turned it around for me.  And then I actually tried playing with the other new units (riots, sentries, AT-DP, etc.) and they all ended up being great additions too!  So I'm not too worried about judging the theme of this expansion as a non-rebels-watcher - I'm willing to bet that the actual content of the box is going to be a lot of fun.

Plus, you know, Thrawn! :)

 

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18 minutes ago, ManateeX said:

 But then came the fixes for Vader, Han and Chewie, which completely turned it around for me. 

 

Speaking of which- I wonder what we don't know about this expansion so far. 

 

I'd say more fixes aren't off the table.  

 

I'm sure that we're getting an Imperial class deck- I'm very curious about that!

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