Ginkapo 9,321 Posted January 4, 2018 Or just kill Motti 1 Helias de Nappo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Ginkapo said: CR90B with engine techs. In seriousness, though, this is the scenario I'm looking for WAB: use it to tee up shots for the rammer finishers. Dropping an incidental hull damage or two with WAB and suddnely the flotilla is super vulnerable to the ET or Quantum Storm finisher. Beyond that, I'm having a hard time finding a really good, reliable application for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) DOUBLE POSTED IN THE FAAAAAACE Edited January 4, 2018 by Ardaedhel 1 Democratus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ardaedhel said: Beyond that, I'm having a hard time finding a really good, reliable application for it. Combining with Mauler and Saber to kill Jan Orrs. Flotillas arent the target you are looking for..... its a flak upgrade. Everyone begged for one and now cant see what it is.... *Sigh* 2 ovinomanc3r and Muelmuel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Ginkapo said: Combining with Mauler and Saber to kill Jan Orrs. Flotillas arent the target you are looking for..... its a flak upgrade. Everyone begged for one and now cant see what it is.... *Sigh* No, I see what it is. But what platform am I putting it on for that application? What platform... - Reliably crits with blacks - Has an ordnance slot - Is attacking ships - Is willing to give up flak shots to shoot ships - Is willing to give up ship-killing ordnance to contribute to killing Jan - Can pin Jan close to her own ships If you have few enough blacks that you're not a primary ship-killer, you're probably a Raider, not likely to crit, or both. If you have enough blacks that you're likely to crit naturally, you're an MC30 or GSD and it's a pretty hard pitch to replace APT/ACM/ExRax with this. Also worth noting that I've never asked for a flak upgrade because I think flak is fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 It will specifically counter Jan inside the GH bubble though, so it's got that going for it I guess, which is nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Ardaedhel said: No, I see what it is. But what platform am I putting it on for that application? What platform... - Reliably crits with blacks - Has an ordnance slot - Is attacking ships - Is willing to give up flak shots to shoot ships - Is willing to give up ship-killing ordnance to contribute to killing Jan - Can pin Jan close to her own ships If you have few enough blacks that you're not a primary ship-killer, you're probably a Raider, not likely to crit, or both. If you have enough blacks that you're likely to crit naturally, you're an MC30 or GSD and it's a pretty hard pitch to replace APT/ACM/ExRax with this. Also worth noting that I've never asked for a flak upgrade because I think flak is fine. I agree, I dont like it as an upgrade and hope to be proved wrong. IrishMadCat reckons Sato Hammerheads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Ginkapo said: I agree, I dont like it as an upgrade and hope to be proved wrong. IrishMadCat reckons Sato Hammerheads. Yeah, Shmitty mentioned the same thing. I do think spamming across lots of small ships it is going to be the only way to make it work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted January 4, 2018 Ideally (the spirit) 4 Flotillas. undamaged. They do not have Bright hope / motti no other ships in proximity. I extended it to small ship ONLY because getting 4 Flotillas together was a long ask. 2 Helias de Nappo and Ardaedhel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warlord Zepnick 324 Posted January 4, 2018 14 hours ago, Thrindal said: I think this card will have more of a secondary effect then the primary effect. I feel like this will have the effect of getting your opponent flying more spread out, which could be more beneficial to you then the primary effect of the card. Sucks for squads who want Toryn in range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MandalorianMoose 1,862 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ardaedhel said: For this to happen you're going to have to have OS in an MC75 build, I think. I can't for the life of me seem to figure out what OS is... EDIT: Opening Salvo maybe? I had been thinking of upgrades Edited January 4, 2018 by MandalorianMoose 1 Ardaedhel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted January 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said: I can't for the life of me seem to figure out what OS is... EDIT: Opening Salvo maybe? I had been thinking of upgrades Yep, sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiabloAzul 2,636 Posted January 4, 2018 New glossary entry? 1 ovinomanc3r reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said: New glossary entry? WAB probably earned it yesterday alone 3 DiabloAzul, Ardaedhel and ovinomanc3r reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 4,437 Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Ginkapo said: Combining with Mauler and Saber to kill Jan Orrs. Flotillas arent the target you are looking for..... its a flak upgrade. Everyone begged for one and now cant see what it is.... *Sigh* That was the main purpose I saw from the beginning. It is good to be usable against flotillas though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites