Rebel MSU

[anonymousguy 119]

This will be my regional fleet, will be practicing with it a lot!

Superior Positions, Opening Salvo, Hyperspace assault

AFB with Boarding Troopers, Ahsoka, DTT

MC30 Torp with Admonition, OE, APT, H9

(flagship)CR90A with Rieekan, TRC, Engine Techs, Jaina's light

Hammerhead Torp with Cham Syndulla, TFO, ER

Hammerhead TOrp with Boarding Engineers, TFO, ER, Hondo Ohnaka

GR75 med with Leia organa, comms net

Tycho celchu

 

Edited December 27, 2017 by anonymousguy

[Vergilius 2,118]

Superior Positions should be right out unless you're taking max squad for the simple reason that squads are the absolute easiest way to trigger it.  A squad list is going to ding you for 200+ points in tokens by the end of the game.  

[DrakonLord 752]

My fav MSU list is various lists like:

MSU (392/400)
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CR90 Corvette A (44 + 27)
    + General Dodonna (20)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
CR90 Corvette A (44 + 7)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
CR90 Corvette A (44 + 7)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
CR90 Corvette A (44 + 7)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
CR90 Corvette A (44 + 7)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
CR90 Corvette A (44 + 7)
    + Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
6 x A-wing Squadron (11)

[anonymousguy 119]

7 hours ago, Vergilius said:

Superior Positions should be right out unless you're taking max squad for the simple reason that squads are the absolute easiest way to trigger it.  A squad list is going to ding you for 200+ points in tokens by the end of the game.  

So, what would I replace it with?

[Vergilius 2,118]

15 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

So, what would I replace it with?

You've got a lot of choices.  Solar Corona is popular because it performs the same basic function of deployment.

[anonymousguy 119]

12 hours ago, Vergilius said:

You've got a lot of choices.  Solar Corona is popular because it performs the same basic function of deployment.

That would be a good choice, though I wouldn't want the MC30's H9 accuracies to go to waste.

Also making another variant:

MC30 torp with Admo, OE, H9, APT

(flagship)CR90A with Rieekan, Jaina's Light, TRCs, Engine Techs

CR90A with TRCs

CR90B with Ahsoka

Hammerhead Torp with TFO, Cham Syndulla, ER

Hammerhead Torp with TFO, Boarding Engineers, ER, Hondo Ohnaka

GR75 Med with Comms Net , Leia

Tycho Celchu

399/400

[Vergilius 2,118]

35 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

That would be a good choice, though I wouldn't want the MC30's H9 accuracies to go to waste.

They wouldn't.  You remove the accuracy if it is in the dice pool BEFORE you mod for H9.

[anonymousguy 119]

1 hour ago, Vergilius said:

They wouldn't.  You remove the accuracy if it is in the dice pool BEFORE you mod for H9.

Oh okay thanks, didn't read it carefully enough.

Objectives are now Solar Corona, Hyperspace Assault, and Opening Salvo.

What do you think of the above list?

[Vergilius 2,118]

You really hurt for placement, and I think you’re more vulnerable in the squadron game than you might suspect.  So you’re amost playing squadronless.  On the other hand, taking two to three critical activations after they have gone can mitigate some of this damage, and rieekan is surprisingly resilient with getting a unit like a cr90b to trade up.

 

if it were me, I’d trade down to a flotilla and get 3 more swings for placement.  I think you’re also overly upgraded in the HH to the point you might not get all those upgrades trigger.

im not sure how often you’ll actually use Ashoka or Leia.  Probably not worth the points here.

[anonymousguy 119]

28 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

You really hurt for placement, and I think you’re more vulnerable in the squadron game than you might suspect.  So you’re amost playing squadronless.  On the other hand, taking two to three critical activations after they have gone can mitigate some of this damage, and rieekan is surprisingly resilient with getting a unit like a cr90b to trade up.

 

if it were me, I’d trade down to a flotilla and get 3 more swings for placement.  I think you’re also overly upgraded in the HH to the point you might not get all those upgrades trigger.

im not sure how often you’ll actually use Ashoka or Leia.  Probably not worth the points here.

Yeah, I do only have 7 and a half deployments. Also, with that second tip, do you mind clarifying the first part?

About Ahsoka and Leia, I am so bad at commands I need them, plus there is a lunatic always running around with slicer tools in my area.

[Vergilius 2,118]

5 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

Yeah, I do only have 7 and a half deployments. Also, with that second tip, do you mind clarifying the first part?

About Ahsoka and Leia, I am so bad at commands I need them, plus there is a lunatic always running around with slicer tools in my area.

well, you have command one ships, such that the commands ought to be easy to predict and aren't the most crucial on any given turn.  Most ships have 2 commands that they pretty much want to perform, and the other two might be useful on occasion, but aren't utterly critical.  So I think you'll be ok.

[Vergilius 2,118]

On the clarification, take the CR90B, drop for a flotilla and two A-wings, find find another A-wings points worth out of the other upgrades.

[anonymousguy 119]

Maybe this?

(Flagship)CR90A with Rieekan, TRC, ET, Jaina's Light

CR90A with TRC

MC30 Torp with OE, Admonition, H9, APT

HH Torp with TFO, Cham Syndulla,  ER

HH Torp with TFO, Boarding Engineers, ER

GR75 Med with Leia, Comms Net

GR75 Med

Tycho Celchu, Shara Bey

393/400

 

 

[Vergilius 2,118]

I like it a little better.  I'd be very surprised if you can get Cham and Boarding Engineers off on a regular basis.  At least with 393, you're also likely to go first except against all but the most dedicated lists.

[anonymousguy 119]

29 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

On the clarification, take the CR90B, drop for a flotilla and two A-wings, find find another A-wings points worth out of the other upgrades.

Honestly, I think the CR90B contributes a lot, and I'm not so sure about dropping it for a transport and 1-2 extra A-wings.

In a few days, I will run some tests for both of these lists.

[anonymousguy 119]

2 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

I like it a little better.  I'd be very surprised if you can get Cham and Boarding Engineers off on a regular basis.  At least with 393, you're also likely to go first except against all but the most dedicated lists.

In my meta, the highest bids are around 6 points.

[anonymousguy 119]

18 hours ago, Vergilius said:

I like it a little better.  I'd be very surprised if you can get Cham and Boarding Engineers off on a regular basis.  At least with 393, you're also likely to go first except against all but the most dedicated lists.

You know, I might drop Cham, but what will I replace him with?

[BrobaFett 4,209]

I think the suggestion of more A wings is a good one. I'd personally listen to Verg as Shara + 3 A's is a solid squad compliment go lighter than in any case.

[Kazyone 0]

I agree, more a-wings is usually a good thing!

[Vergilius 2,118]

There are always tough choices.  The last 30 points or so of a list is the agonizing part of wondering if I really need that upgrade, or can I get more utility out of doing something else entirely.  The thing about taking 5 point of Cham or anything else, is that you really want to make sure you're getting that upgrade off.  You don't want it in your list "just in case" or because it looks cool.  That said, there is always good utility to come from increasing your placement, and there's a lot you can do with even a tiny increase in your fighter screen if you play it right and well.

[anonymousguy 119]

I ended up making this:

MC30 torp with OE, Admo, H9, APTs

(flagship)CR90A with Rieekan, TRC, Jaina's light, Engine Techs

CR90A with TRC

HH Torp with TFO and ER

HH Torp with TFO and ER

GR75 Med

GR75 Med

Tycho, Green Squadron, 2 A-wings

396/400

Though I really want Shara in there, only way to get her in would be to replace Tycho with her.

Edited December 29, 2017 by anonymousguy

[anonymousguy 119]

17 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

There are always tough choices.  The last 30 points or so of a list is the agonizing part of wondering if I really need that upgrade, or can I get more utility out of doing something else entirely.  The thing about taking 5 point of Cham or anything else, is that you really want to make sure you're getting that upgrade off.  You don't want it in your list "just in case" or because it looks cool.  That said, there is always good utility to come from increasing your placement, and there's a lot you can do with even a tiny increase in your fighter screen if you play it right and well.

Maybe with the list I just posted, I could drop the TRC90 for a CR90B and some ion cannon upgrade. Besides, I don't have that second copy of TRCs.

[Vergilius 2,118]

22 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

I ended up making this:

MC30 torp with OE, Admo, H9, APTs

(flagship)CR90A with Rieekan, TRC, Jaina's light, Engine Techs

CR90A with TRC

HH Torp with TFO and ER

HH Torp with TFO and ER

GR75 Med

GR75 Med

Tycho, Green Squadron, 2 A-wings

396/400

Though I really want Shara in there, only way to get her in would be to replace Tycho with her.

I think it is highly worth replacing Tycho with Shara.  I'd probably just drop Green to another A-wing.  The main reason being that the biggest thing you're getting off the A-wings is the counter roll and they are primarily in your list to stop up enemy squads, not boost your anti-ship strength, and you get that for a point more.   396 is a really good bid in my opinion, giving you a huge amount of flexibility in picking first or second as needed against key lists, while not leaving huge numbers of points on the table; a 7 activation list can normally play second satisfactorily.

This, I like.  Knock yourself out with it.   

[Vergilius 2,118]

23 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

Maybe with the list I just posted, I could drop the TRC90 for a CR90B and some ion cannon upgrade. Besides, I don't have that second copy of TRCs.

If you're short the second TRC, then yeah, there's a lot you can do with a CR90B and SW-7.  Rieekan SW-7/Bs are extremely potent, as you ought to be able to position them well on multiple turns before they go, and afterward, they've done a ton of damage.

[anonymousguy 119]

45 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

If you're short the second TRC, then yeah, there's a lot you can do with a CR90B and SW-7.  Rieekan SW-7/Bs are extremely potent, as you ought to be able to position them well on multiple turns before they go, and afterward, they've done a ton of damage.

I will probably make the CR90A into an SW7/B, and I'll save 7 points, allowing me to upgrade a generic A-wing to Shara, and I'll have a 6 point bid if I drop the Green squadron to a generic A-wing too.

46 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

I think it is highly worth replacing Tycho with Shara.  I'd probably just drop Green to another A-wing.  The main reason being that the biggest thing you're getting off the A-wings is the counter roll and they are primarily in your list to stop up enemy squads, not boost your anti-ship strength, and you get that for a point more.   396 is a really good bid in my opinion, giving you a huge amount of flexibility in picking first or second as needed against key lists, while not leaving huge numbers of points on the table; a 7 activation list can normally play second satisfactorily.

This, I like.  Knock yourself out with it.   

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help you've provided for me. I'm also a big fan of your Madine builds.

Edited December 29, 2017 by anonymousguy