Waywardpaladin 419 Posted December 24, 2017 So I'm currently running: stronghold (1) 1x Mountain's Anvil Castle role (1) 1x Seeker of Fire province (5) 1x Restoration of Balance 1x Feast or Famine 1x Public Forum 1x Shameful Display 1x Manicured Garden holding (9) 3x Imperial Storehouse 3x Mountaintop Statuary 1x The Imperial Palace 2x Favorable Ground dynasty character (31) 3x Niten Adept 2x Niten Master 3x Doomed Shugenja 3x Enlightened Warrior 3x Agasha Swordsmith 3x Togashi Yokuni 2x Mirumoto Raitsugu 1x Mirumoto Raitsugu 3x Togashi Initiate 3x Seeker of Enlightenment 2x Agasha Sumiko 3x Kitsuki Investigator attachment (24) 3x Reprieve 3x Pathfinder's Blade 2x Cloud the Mind 2x Finger of Jade 2x Way of the Dragon 3x Ancestral Daishō 3x Kitsuki's Method 3x The Stone of Sorrows 3x Daimyō's Favor event (15) 2x Charge! 2x Mirumoto's Fury 2x Good Omen 3x Let Go 3x Censure 3x Policy Debate conflict character (3) 3x Togashi Kazue I feel pretty inconsistent. Sometimes it is awesome and I have a lock on economy, or I'm just bowing everyone with Adept and have a good game. Otherwise I fall behind and have no way to catch up. Not sure if I should use Mono no Aware or Waning Hostilities to buy myself into the game. I know the first bit of advice will probably be "MORE BANZAI! MORE CHARGE! MORE 0 COST!" but I want to find something viable that isn't just "Throw every aggressively costed thing at them". I can make a Lion deck for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBlunt 368 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) A quick reply: I think that you have too many Holdings. Don’t care for the Mountaintop Statuary myself, but ok. You are missing a Fury and have 1 too many Censure. Overall, my opinion is that Crab is not the *best splash. The 2 different versions of Dragon decks that I run splash Phoenix and Unicorn, both of which are worthwhile and allow me to play aggressively or as a counter puncher. Hope this helps. ? PS- A solid no on Waning Hostilities. Edited December 25, 2017 by LordBlunt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waywardpaladin 419 Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, LordBlunt said: A quick reply: I think that you have too many Holdings. Don’t care for the Mountaintop Statuary myself, but ok. You are missing a Fury and have 1 too many Censure. Overall, my opinion is that Crab is not the *best splash. The 2 different versions of Dragon decks that I run splash Phoenix and Unicorn, both of which are worthwhile and allow me to play aggressively or as a counter puncher. Hope this helps. ? PS- A solid no on Waning Hostilities. I find Fury quickly becoming a dead card as opponents will reveal my provinces ASAP. I had a mix of Voice and Censure before to great effect. So far though Censure has been less reliable than Voice was. Crab lets me trigger Niten Adept and Master easily, Pathfinder blade let's me keep my lunch from being eaten by a host of provinces that want to take all my fate, or steal all my attachments, or honor them and dishonor me, and so on. Reprieve helps keep Sumiko, Yokuni, and so on around. Or even Enlightened Warrior for a turn that your opponent avoids picking a ring with Fate. The Phoenix splash suggestion I see people make, but Against the Waves isn't very helpful, Display of Power can be but I also like to actually win on defense. Unicorn I suppose is pretty typical, but Spyglass and what? I have seen Gaijin customs suggested, and I have seen steed used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chron73 61 Posted December 26, 2017 I also splash Crab and have been running the following deck with success: Mountain's Anvil Castle Seeker of Fire Public Forum Earth Feast or Famine Fire Restoration of Balance Fire Shameful Display Void Elemental Fury Water Influence: 10/10 Dynasty Deck (40) Character (33) 3x Agasha Sumiko 3x Agasha Swordsmith 3x Doomed Shugenja 3x Kitsuki Investigator 3x Kitsuki Yaruma 3x Mirumoto Raitsugu 3x Niten Adept 3x Niten Master 3x Togashi Initiate 3x Togashi Mendicant 3x Togashi Yokuni Holding (7) 3x Imperial Storehouse 1x Miwaku Kabe 3x Mountaintop Statuary Conflict Deck (40) Event (15) 3x Banzai! 2x Charge! 3x Court Games 2x Indomitable Will 3x Let Go 2x Mirumoto's Fury Attachment (20) 3x Ancestral Daishō 2x Daimyō's Favor 3x Fine Katana 3x Kitsuki's Method 3x Ornate Fan 3x Pathfinder's Blade /// 3x Reprieve /// Character (5) 2x Hiruma Skirmisher //// 3x Tattooed Wanderer 1 LordBlunt reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBlunt 368 Posted December 26, 2017 @Chron73 Interesring list. It seems that the Pathfinder’s Blade provides a good amount of utility in the deck, backed up with Reprieve. A very aggressive deck, IMO. The lack of Favored Ground is interesting, as well as only 2 Charge! and only 2 Fury. But hey, if it’s working, go for it! Am happy to see a variance of Dragon decks. ? 1 Chron73 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chron73 61 Posted December 26, 2017 To add a bit of a write up... The stars of the deck are Niten Master and Investigator/Yaruma, if you can get 1 of each towered you are set. A lot of Dragon players are getting away from Daimyo's Favor, but being in a heavy Crab meta I love that I can use it for economy or to get Kisada's ability wasted. Charge is great for multiple characters...Yaruma province shenanigans, a quick 4/4 Sumiko or any big personality when your opponent is about to break Feast. Also don't be afraid to use Charge on Niten Master if you have a hand full of weapons Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waywardpaladin 419 Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Chron73 said: To add a bit of a write up... The stars of the deck are Niten Master and Investigator/Yaruma, if you can get 1 of each towered you are set. A lot of Dragon players are getting away from Daimyo's Favor, but being in a heavy Crab meta I love that I can use it for economy or to get Kisada's ability wasted. Charge is great for multiple characters...Yaruma province shenanigans, a quick 4/4 Sumiko or any big personality when your opponent is about to break Feast. Also don't be afraid to use Charge on Niten Master if you have a hand full of weapons Why Kabe instead of Imperial Palace? Why Mendicant if you don't have anything that runs off of Monks? And while I don't like Yaruma, using him to reset Public Forum does seem appropriately cruel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chron73 61 Posted December 26, 2017 57 minutes ago, Waywardpaladin said: Why Kabe instead of Imperial Palace? Why Mendicant if you don't have anything that runs off of Monks? And while I don't like Yaruma, using him to reset Public Forum does seem appropriately cruel I don't usually need much help in getting the favor and I like the +3 that Kabe gives. Nothing in my deck really relies on the favor. Sure it's nice to have with Sumiko, but she's not worthless without it. If I was running Censure or other cards that depended on it, that would be a no-brainer. Mendicant just for a cheap body that also lets me peek at what's coming up in my Dynasty deck. Running a lot of 4 and 5 cost characters, I'd rather have a 1 cost, than a 2 in this slot. Also, where I'm not counting on the favor I chose him over Courtier or Guardsmen. Also he's nice to have if you have Charge in hand as you can have a little bit of control as to what's coming up in your provinces. I wasn't keen on Yaruma at first, but his ability can be quite nasty. I also use him as it gets me a second option other than Investigator for a Political tower. With my playstyle, I've found I do much better building 2 Voltrons...one military using Niten or Raitsugu, and one political using Investigator or Yaruma. Yokuni and Sumiko can be used as either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
