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Destiny derived from TLJ story arcs (MOVIE SPOILERS)

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2 hours ago, soviet prince said:

the movie was not horrible I was not bored once, the  problem is this directer completely took the story lines that JJ built and crapped all over them.

- killed snoke off with no explanation of who the **** he is.

- rey parents being nobody's after hyping it up

-  phasma again gets the shaft

 

Actually Rey's parents being nobodies was HEAVILY hinted at in The Force Awakens.

First it was easy to know that she wasnt a Solo, because if she were Han would have mentioned her being kidnapped by Kylo rather then just saying "I saw him, I saw our son" with no mention of the girl he kidnapped. And then Leia ON TOP of that only asked Han to bring him home no care for the fact that they were going to blow up a station with a kidnapped girl on it.... the only one that cared in that regard was Finn. The hug scene at the end was because both of them being force sensitive could feel the others feelings JJ even explained that himself.

Second she specifically stated she thought Luke Skywalker was a Myth. We see clearly that she would have been old enough to remember her parents she even remembers to try and wait for them. If Luke was her dad, she wouldnt have thought that he was just some sort of myth.

Finally Maz's line "you already know the truth, who ever you are waiting for is never coming back" "the belonging you are looking for IS NOT behind you it is ahead". Right here Maz tells us Rey's parents dont matter.

She is to young to be the daughter of kenobi and to young to be the daughter of palpatine, Both died around 10 years before she was born so that rules them out.

JJ specifically says Rey's parents ARE NOT in Force Awakens. Daisy Ridley the actor for Rey thought the force awakens ALREADY ANSWERED who Rey's parents were. The only reason episode 8 focused on it at all was because of how much stock the fans put in it, and thus they allowed it to be important to Rey as well and be part of her character arc for the movie. It is just like the scene in RotJ where Luke has to confirm that darth vader is his father with Yoda and Obi-wan because people were convinced Vader was lying. 

It is SUPER important that Rey's parents be from no where as a part of one of the best messages of the film, that you dont have to be born from greatness to be great. Whether great evil like Snoke, or Great good like Rey you dont have to come from any where to have that potential. Any of us can be the last jedi.

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29 minutes ago, tunewalker said:

Actually Rey's parents being nobodies was HEAVILY hinted at in The Force Awakens.

First it was easy to know that she wasnt a Solo, because if she were Han would have mentioned her being kidnapped by Kylo rather then just saying "I saw him, I saw our son" with no mention of the girl he kidnapped. And then Leia ON TOP of that only asked Han to bring him home no care for the fact that they were going to blow up a station with a kidnapped girl on it.... the only one that cared in that regard was Finn. The hug scene at the end was because both of them being force sensitive could feel the others feelings JJ even explained that himself.

Second she specifically stated she thought Luke Skywalker was a Myth. We see clearly that she would have been old enough to remember her parents she even remembers to try and wait for them. If Luke was her dad, she wouldnt have thought that he was just some sort of myth.

Finally Maz's line "you already know the truth, who ever you are waiting for is never coming back" "the belonging you are looking for IS NOT behind you it is ahead". Right here Maz tells us Rey's parents dont matter.

She is to young to be the daughter of kenobi and to young to be the daughter of palpatine, Both died around 10 years before she was born so that rules them out.

JJ specifically says Rey's parents ARE NOT in Force Awakens. Daisy Ridley the actor for Rey thought the force awakens ALREADY ANSWERED who Rey's parents were. The only reason episode 8 focused on it at all was because of how much stock the fans put in it, and thus they allowed it to be important to Rey as well and be part of her character arc for the movie. It is just like the scene in RotJ where Luke has to confirm that darth vader is his father with Yoda and Obi-wan because people were convinced Vader was lying. 

It is SUPER important that Rey's parents be from no where as a part of one of the best messages of the film, that you dont have to be born from greatness to be great. Whether great evil like Snoke, or Great good like Rey you dont have to come from any where to have that potential. Any of us can be the last jedi.

well said,it doesnot bother me as much as snoke though, i mean who the ****  is this guy how he get to be the head of a massive army? how did he get so ugly? why is he so powerful? why does ppl follow him in the first place?

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I want a character called Broom Kid. Joking aside I would be interested to see a neutral DJ character. Have him have some kind of mill mechanic or maybe an ability that the opponent can use like they did with Jar-Jar.

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16 hours ago, soviet prince said:

well said,it doesnot bother me as much as snoke though, i mean who the ****  is this guy how he get to be the head of a massive army? how did he get so ugly? why is he so powerful? why does ppl follow him in the first place?

The first order in general needed more fleshing out

Personally not satisfied with "empire 2.0" especially when they have a more fantical vibe (indoctrinating children as troopers, hux's big speech pre starkiller launch etc) that could really be explored 

Its top guys (hux and Ren) are also VERY young especially relative to their imperial counterparts (tarkin/piett and Vader) which could've lent itself to more themes of brain washing by radicalization, esp with Ren's "let the past die" in TLJ 

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