Fat Han in the current meta

[Wiredin 3,459]

Han Solo (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
C-3PO (3)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Total: 62

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A few of us locally agree Fan Han maybe a good meta call in the current Meta. The arguments are between VI/Determination for sure...but then with 38 points left over who is the best to pair with Han? Go for a bid?

Option one:

Miranda TLT/Bomblet generator

she's lost some weight from when we last saw her five minutes ago, thats a pretty quick working diet... no initiative bid for Han to try and avoid arcs, but it's hard to argue with Miranda as his wingman.

 

Option two: 

Wes Janson w/VI, Flight Assist, Integrated Astro + Harpoon on Han / 3 point bid

We can help out keep PS10 missile boats under control and a Harpoon from Han is always a fun time for your opponent. 

 

Option three:

Lowhrick w/selflessness, gunner, tactician 

Now we are just way too defensive I think.

 

There are probably more options out there, but these are the first few that jumped to mind. As much as I love A-Wings, LOVE A-Wings, I don't think they have the needed punch to fly alongside our favorite smuggler. 

[Burius1981 566]

I've seen some Fat Hans lately, similar set up though they either have Predator or Expertise instead of VI and Gunner instead of Luke.  Miranda is a good call, TLTs and Regen, bomblet if the points are there.  Maybe Poe,  Lowrick, or even Wulfaroo.

Not a huge fan of Wes with Han because Wes is a little too fragile.  If you were to do Wes I would go R3-A2 on him; stress them and strip a token at PS 10 with Predator/Expertise Han at PS9 to hit them hard.  Once Wes goes down you still have Gunner to help push damage through.

Edited December 13, 2017 by Burius1981

[Fozzyman 47]

The following Han is probably what I would run:

Han Solo — YT-1300	46
Lone Wolf	2
C-3PO	3
Gunner	5
Engine Upgrade	4
Millennium Falcon	1
Ship Total: 61

 

Lots of good defense and reroll from Gunner if necessary. This has you running another ship that does not want to be next to Han. And for that I really like:

Poe Dameron  T-70 X-Wing	31
Veteran Instincts	1
BB-8	2
Advanced Optics	2
Autothrusters	2
Black One	1
Ship Total: 39

 

But there are lots of other option. Good luck.

[theBitterFig 11,598]

I keep thinking about a Warden K-Wing bomber.  Sabine, Bomblets, Cluster or Conner, EM, Experimental Interface.  Comes in at 37 points, and you could easily save points by skipping or downgrading bomblets.  If we're expecting a return of arc dodgy aces, this can hit them pretty hard with a clutch SLAM-Bomb.  Compared to TLT/Bomblet/Long Range Scanner Miranda, it's going to be stronger against different sorts of ships.  Depending on the mix of ships you think you'll fight, it could be strong.

I'd also think about Hotshot Copilot on Han.  Many of the aces (Kylo, Poe, maybe even Fenn Rau post-Attanni nerf) out there these days only have a single focus token.  Stripping it then having Luke's shot to follow up could be really strong.  It works defensively, too, since your opponent won't be able to use a focus to modify their attack.  Losing focus modification on a 3-dice attack probably prevents about as much damage as C-3PO.

Edited December 13, 2017 by theBitterFig

[tonycanevaro 18]

How about this:

Fat Han  (99)

•Norra Wexley (39) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), •Nien Nunb (1), •BB-8 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

•Han Solo (60) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •C-3PO (3), Gunner (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

[Fozzyman 47]

29 minutes ago, tonycanevaro said:

How about this:

Fat Han  (99)

•Norra Wexley (39) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), •Nien Nunb (1), •BB-8 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

•Han Solo (60) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •C-3PO (3), Gunner (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

 

Norra is great, but with no regen, she will die quickly. You would have to fly her super carefully, and be incredibly aggressive with Han.

[YourHucklebrry 110]

1 hour ago, Fozzyman said:

The following Han is probably what I would run:

Han Solo — YT-1300	46
Lone Wolf	2
C-3PO	3
Gunner	5
Engine Upgrade	4
Millennium Falcon	1
Ship Total: 61

 

Lots of good defense and reroll from Gunner if necessary. This has you running another ship that does not want to be next to Han. And for that I really like:

Poe Dameron  T-70 X-Wing	31
Veteran Instincts	1
BB-8	2
Advanced Optics	2
Autothrusters	2
Black One	1
Ship Total: 39

 

But there are lots of other option. Good luck.

Do you mind explaining the thought behind putting Lone Wolf on Han, rather than on Poe? With Han's built-in re-roll on offence it seems like Poe would get the bigger bump there. As well, Poe is rolling another evade die so it would also trigger on defence more for him. Granted the Autothrusters helps Poe out there. But I'd still give him the better odds to trigger.

Is there a particular combination I'm missing?

[Wiredin 3,459]

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

I keep thinking about a Warden K-Wing bomber.  Sabine, Bomblets, Cluster or Conner, EM, Experimental Interface.  Comes in at 37 points, and you could easily save points by skipping or downgrading bomblets.  If we're expecting a return of arc dodgy aces, this can hit them pretty hard with a clutch SLAM-Bomb.  Compared to TLT/Bomblet/Long Range Scanner Miranda, it's going to be stronger against different sorts of ships.  Depending on the mix of ships you think you'll fight, it could be strong.

I'd also think about Hotshot Copilot on Han.  Many of the aces (Kylo, Poe, maybe even Fenn Rau post-Attanni nerf) out there these days only have a single focus token.  Stripping it then having Luke's shot to follow up could be really strong.  It works defensively, too, since your opponent won't be able to use a focus to modify their attack.  Losing focus modification on a 3-dice attack probably prevents about as much damage as C-3PO.

the hot cop/Luke combo is something I've contemplated a lot too. 

[gennataos 5,873]

He's not as chubby, and I lean toward Rey falcons over Han falcons (by a wide margin), but this might be something I should consider.  Could even go regen Poe with no bid if it makes sense.

Han Solo (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
C-3PO (3)
Rey (2)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 98

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Edited December 13, 2017 by gennataos

[imrandy85 152]

I've been toying around with this and have had good success so far.  I tried VI on Han also, without black one but I think having them both at PS10 and adding black one is a better call right now.

Han Solo (46)
Adaptability (0)
Gunner (5)
C-3PO (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R2-D2 (4)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

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[Fozzyman 47]

4 hours ago, YourHucklebrry said:

Do you mind explaining the thought behind putting Lone Wolf on Han, rather than on Poe? With Han's built-in re-roll on offence it seems like Poe would get the bigger bump there. As well, Poe is rolling another evade die so it would also trigger on defence more for him. Granted the Autothrusters helps Poe out there. But I'd still give him the better odds to trigger.

Is there a particular combination I'm missing?

The reason for lone wolf on Han is to reroll when you only have 1 blank. Specifically on defense, but also on offense. With C3P0 you can guess 0, get 0 or 1, possibly have the lone wolf reroll and have the Evade from the title. Or on offense, if you roll 2 or 3 hits (depending on range) you can reroll the one blank. It’s similar to why people run Predator, just defensive as well.

For putting it on Poe, by all means, that makes sense for the total numbers. But Han is he focus of this build, specifically keeping him alive for many rounds to deal out the most damage.

Edited December 14, 2017 by Fozzyman

[RocketDarth 37]

9 hours ago, Wiredin said:

Han Solo (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
C-3PO (3)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Total: 62

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Just curious, which Han are you using? HotR, or 1300? I love the falcon it just always seemed useless to me.

Edited December 14, 2017 by RocketDarth

[tonycanevaro 18]

52 minutes ago, Fozzyman said:

 

Norra is great, but with no regen, she will die quickly. You would have to fly her super carefully, and be incredibly aggressive with Han.

Don’t have a ton of upgrades available but this may be better

Fat Han  (99)

•Norra Wexley (39) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), •Nien Nunb (1), •R2-D2 (4), Alliance Overhaul (0), Vectored Thrusters (2)

•Han Solo (60) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •C-3PO (3), Gunner (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

[Wiredin 3,459]

13 hours ago, RocketDarth said:

Just curious, which Han are you using? HotR, or 1300? I love the falcon it just always seemed useless to me.

old han always.

 

new han may have a use for super jank with the new bomber... but original Han has always been a solid staple in X-Wing. 

[RocketDarth 37]

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

old han always.

 

new han may have a use for super jank with the new bomber... but original Han has always been a solid staple in X-Wing. 

I Definitely agree with you. Old Hans ability is much better than new Hans. I don't think I've ever even used the new Han, he always seemed useless to me. He's the same amount of points but you don't really get any thing from his pilot ability except turn one shooting, which doesn't really do much except give you a quicker game.

[tonycanevaro 18]

Or:

Fat Han  (99)

•Norra Wexley (39) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), •Nien Nunb (1), •R2-D2 (4), Alliance Overhaul (0), Vectored Thrusters (2)

•Han Solo (60) - YT-1300
Push The Limit (3), •Kanan Jarrus (3), •Kyle Katarn (3), •Millennium Falcon (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

push for a boost/evade then get a focus with no stress seems pretty potent for Han?

 

[Wiredin 3,459]

1 hour ago, RocketDarth said:

I Definitely agree with you. Old Hans ability is much better than new Hans. I don't think I've ever even used the new Han, he always seemed useless to me. He's the same amount of points but you don't really get any thing from his pilot ability except turn one shooting, which doesn't really do much except give you a quicker game.

Han Solo (TFA) (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Sabine Wren (2)
Courier Droid (0)
Burnout SLAM (1)
Proton Bombs (5)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Countermeasures (3)
Millennium Falcon (1)

"Crimson Specialist" (27)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Proton Bombs (5)
Ordnance Silos (2)
Crossfire Formation (2)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

 

The only way to fly new han that may work! Drop him at PS0 where you think the enemy will deploy. Set it up so either they are gonna get proton bombed or be lined up for a harpoon missile to the face. Poop your proton then SLAM right the eff out of there! Meanwhile, launch a proton bomb at them once or twice with your resistance bomber. 

 

competitive? oh heck no... funny? yes! 

Edited December 14, 2017 by Wiredin

[Greebwahn 925]

I think Fat Han is in fact a good meta call these days, because you can get him up to PS 11 and still have excellent mods like so:

VI

Evade Title

EU

Rey

C-3PO

 

Mostly its standard Fat Han stuff, boost if it'll help, evade otherwise, but Rey lets you bank for some offense.

It pairs very well with Poptics

PS9 Poe

VI

Adv. Optics

FAA

AT

Black One

 

This Poe will ALWAYS have his ability active (unless you go up against HSCP), can strip locks on either ship, and can boost/roll as needed.

[Bigstevo 13]

In my local meta there are alot of ps 10 bomber lists popping up. 

 

Vi nym with vi ten numb is popping and throwing bombs like a wild dog. 

 

With that in mind would this work.

 

Both ships are ps11 so would this help get away from their ps10 bombs. 

Poe Dameron 41pts
Veteran Instincts

BB-8

Advanced Optics

Black One

Autothrusters

Han Solo 59pts

Veteran Instincts

Gunner

Rey

Millennium Falcon

Engine Upgrade

Edited December 16, 2017 by Bigstevo

[Greebwahn 925]

Less survivable, but more offensive. I would still be tempted to use FAA rather than BB-8, but overall, it seems solid!

[Wiredin 3,459]

On 12/16/2017 at 2:38 PM, Bigstevo said:

In my local meta there are alot of ps 10 bomber lists popping up. 

 

Vi nym with vi ten numb is popping and throwing bombs like a wild dog. 

 

wait wait wait... Ten Numb throwing bombs?!?!?!? OMG My hero. sounds expensive, but beautiful. 

[Bigstevo 13]

4 hours ago, Wiredin said:

wait wait wait... Ten Numb throwing bombs?!?!?!? OMG My hero. sounds expensive, but beautiful. 

It's beautiful and paired with nym they are both either throwing or dropping bombs. Tens build is 

•Ten Numb
Veteran Instincts

Trajectory Simulator

 Extra Munitions

Proton Torpedoes

B-Wing/E2

Sabine Wren

Proton Bombs

[Wiredin 3,459]

this is awesome.... So Ten throws a bomb, then moves up, target locks, and nukes them with a torpedo? my god, I love it. 

[Rolotamasi 208]

On ‎12‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 3:41 AM, Fozzyman said:

The reason for lone wolf on Han is to reroll when you only have 1 blank. Specifically on defense, but also on offense. With C3P0 you can guess 0, get 0 or 1, possibly have the lone wolf reroll and have the Evade from the title.

So do I have the timing correct on this:

• Roll 1 defense die, call 0 with C-3PO, get 0, add 1 evade
• Re-roll the blank with Lone Wolf get an evade
• Use the evade from the title
• 1 green die = 3 evade results

[Fozzyman 47]

Yup

Edited December 19, 2017 by Fozzyman