rules: whispers in your head + discards (minor spoilers for U. Oath)

[awp832 447]

when you are instructed to choose and discard a card from your hand, can you choose a Whispers in your Head card?   Feels wrong but I can't locate anything that says you can not do this.

For example, the Forced effect on the Mess Hall,   or Wendy's ability.

[Network57 561]

"A hidden card counts toward your hand size, but it cannot be discarded from your hand by any means except those described on the card."

From https://arkhamdb.com/rules#Hidden

Edited December 11, 2017 by Network57
Wrong copypasta

[BD Flory 695]

49 minutes ago, Network57 said:

From https://arkhamdb.com/rules#Hidden

Originally printed in the Path to Carcosa campaign guide, in case there's any doubt as to officialprovenance.  

[Khudzlin 734]

They cannot even be discarded randomly, per the quote.

Edited December 11, 2017 by Khudzlin

[mwmcintyre 271]

14 hours ago, Khudzlin said:

They cannot even be discarded randomly, per the quote.

Which makes sense since they have a different back. It's more like it's actually in your encounter area, but affects you like it's in your hand, so you keep it there for convenience.

[zooeyglass 327]

I think of hidden cards as having all of the negatives of a weakness in your threat area, and all of the negatives of a weakness in your hand, sort of combined: 

Can I discard this randomly? No. Can I discard this when something gets discarded from play? No. Does it really count towards my hand size? Yes. Am I going mad? Probably.