Marinealver 7,742 Posted November 19, 2017 I mean he is so OP with escort, it distorts the meta and we all know he needs a nerf Remove Escort from Darth Vader, that will bring him back down to power level. hey, it was worth a try as that is the only way FFG will ever change a card if enough people get on the forums and subreddit to complain and call for a nerf. 8 The Jabbawookie, Flengin, Norell and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 1,845 Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) I don't really see the problem. Darth is a double brace escort with 5 hull. Very similar to Wedge, Luke and Biggs and only a point or two more. He is more Killy I suppose but not too much for the points. Zertek Storm is better, for only 15 points you get the same defence properties as Vader. A bargain even if you never use the reroll ability. Edited November 19, 2017 by Mad Cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 4,928 Posted November 19, 2017 Just ignore Marin. He's been on a seemingly endless rant about errata ever since the X-wing FAQ landed last month. 4 Chemosh667, stonestokes, BlueSquadronPilot and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,453 Posted November 20, 2017 I don't care what they do to Vader as a squadron. You can't use him and Vader as your commander, and that's a big deal because Vader is one of the best commanders in the game. 1 Formynder4 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 24,471 Posted November 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Crabbok said: I don't care what they do to Vader as a squadron. You can't use him and Vader as your commander, and that's a big deal because Vader is one of the best commanders in the game. And soon to be a boarding team, to boot! 4 Crabbok, Norell, ninclouse2000 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thraug 908 Posted November 20, 2017 Should he instead have had a brace and a ..... scatter!! Now that's why a Sith Lord sqyad should be! Escort and scatter baby! Really wouldnt be as bad as it seems. 3 Marinealver, Helias de Nappo and Norell reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,453 Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Drasnighta said: And soon to be a boarding team, to boot! I hate boarding teams. Would much rather Darth Vader Officer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MandalorianMoose 1,651 Posted November 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, Crabbok said: I hate boarding teams. Would much rather Darth Vader Officer. You know it’s only a matter of time... 1 LegionOfBOOM reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 7,742 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mad Cat said: I don't really see the problem. Darth is a double brace escort with 5 hull. Very similar to Wedge, Luke and Biggs and only a point or two more. He is more Killy I suppose but not too much for the points. Zertek Storm is better, for only 15 points you get the same defence properties as Vader. A bargain even if you never use the reroll ability. 3 hours ago, DR4CO said: Just ignore Marin. He's been on a seemingly endless rant about errata ever since the X-wing FAQ landed last month. For those that don't get the joke it is a request for a secret buff. Vader is good but with the weakest (second only to single brace from decimators) defense tokens and no scatter there is no way to protect him so he just dies. *So removing Escort would be more of a Buff, but don't tell FFG that. Yeah not a very good topic, but this is what we do without any news. Edited November 20, 2017 by Marinealver 3 ryanabt, Chemosh667 and Flengin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktflory 35 Posted November 20, 2017 Vader is teh suxxor. He needs a scatter token. 1 1 Swusn and Marinealver reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 7,742 Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, ktflory said: Vader is teh suxxor. He needs a scatter token. Agreed, Nerf the double brace to scatter brace too! shhh, If FFG thinks it is a nerf they just might do it. 1 Flengin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ophion 794 Posted November 20, 2017 Watch irokens ohoenix squadron batrep for proper vader squadron rules. 1 Marinealver reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flengin 236 Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Marinealver said: For those that don't get the joke it is a request for a secret buff. Vader is good but with the weakest (second only to single brace from decimators) defense tokens and no scatter there is no way to protect him so he just dies. *So removing Escort would be more of a Buff, but don't tell FFG that. Yeah not a very good topic, but this is what we do without any news. For whatever it's worth, I got it And even had a bit of a chuckle 2 Marinealver and ryanabt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NebulonB 660 Posted November 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Thraug said: Should he instead have had a brace and a ..... scatter!! Now that's why a Sith Lord sqyad should be! Escort and scatter baby! Really wouldnt be as bad as it seems. Luke and Vader should both have a scatter, with their force premonition and all. 8 Marinealver, MercIncBourne, Helias de Nappo and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blail Blerg 6,075 Posted November 20, 2017 He shoulda have scatter. 3 Thraug, MercIncBourne and Marinealver reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,039 Posted November 20, 2017 Double scatter for good measure. 4 1 Marinealver, dominosfleet, Megatronrex and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ritalbringer 183 Posted November 20, 2017 7 hours ago, NebulonB said: Luke and Vader should both have a scatter, with their force premonition and all. Makes sense, should have been like that. Kanan in the Ghost has Scatter and Brace, so why not. 2 Marinealver and BrobaFett reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swusn 461 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) I think Escort on Vader is backwards. The should drop Escort on Vader and he should give Escort to any friendly squadron with Swarm within range 1. I think he should have Scatter/Brace instead of Brace/Brace. Edited November 20, 2017 by Swusn 5 Helias de Nappo, Marinealver, DekoPuma and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ritalbringer 183 Posted November 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Swusn said: I think Escort on Vader is backwards. The should drop Escort on Vader and he should give Escort to any friendly squadron with Swarm within range 1. When you see the attack run in the Death Star trench, it makes sense. Vador shouldn't have Escort for any reason, but be the last one being targetable 2 Helias de Nappo and Swusn reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norsehound 2,593 Posted November 21, 2017 The root problem of this is us trying to justify why Vader dies first, when clearly we see a horde of underlings in Black Squadron bite it, and Vader is the only survivor. Heck... You can have Black Squadron and Vader right next to each other and Vader can still die first. 3 1 Marinealver, The Jabbawookie, GhostofNobodyInParticular and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jabbawookie 2,839 Posted November 21, 2017 Just remember if FFG cared about lore too much, Mauler Mithel would have escort... 2 Marinealver and MandalorianMoose reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharego 128 Posted November 21, 2017 Vader squadron is fine for me bit Vader commander (Tarkin too) should cost less maybe 30-32 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Democratus 1,698 Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Ritalbringer said: When you see the attack run in the Death Star trench, it makes sense. Vador shouldn't have Escort for any reason, but be the last one being targetable How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move. Theory: The Death Star has Intel. 2 Flengin and thestag reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 24,471 Posted November 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Democratus said: How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move. Theory: The Death Star has Intel. That'd only allow Darth Vader to move. Because it'd make Luke heavy, as it is part of Vader's fleet. 2 Democratus and GhostofNobodyInParticular reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ritalbringer 183 Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Democratus said: How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move. Theory: The Death Star has Intel. Yeah, and Wedge has Grit. He is the only one able to move out from the fight, but only triggered when he suffers 1 dmg. 1 Flengin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites