FFG We Need to Nerf Darth Vader (Squadron)

[Marinealver 7,744]

I mean he is so OP with escort, it distorts the meta and we all know he needs a nerf

Remove Escort from Darth Vader, that will bring him back down to power level.

hey, it was worth a try as that is the only way FFG will ever change a card if enough people get on the forums and subreddit to complain and call for a nerf.

[Mad Cat 1,845]

I don't really see the problem. Darth is a double brace escort with 5 hull. Very similar to Wedge, Luke and Biggs and only a point or two more. He is more Killy I suppose but not too much for the points. 

Zertek Storm is better, for only 15 points you get the same defence properties as Vader. A bargain even if you never use the reroll ability. 

Edited November 19, 2017 by Mad Cat

[DR4CO 4,932]

Just ignore Marin. He's been on a seemingly endless rant about errata ever since the X-wing FAQ landed last month.

[Crabbok 9,459]

I don't care what they do to Vader as a squadron.  You can't use him and Vader as your commander, and that's a big deal because Vader is one of the best commanders in the game.   

[Drasnighta 24,486]

24 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

I don't care what they do to Vader as a squadron.  You can't use him and Vader as your commander, and that's a big deal because Vader is one of the best commanders in the game.   

And soon to be a boarding team, to boot!

[Thraug 909]

Should he instead have had a brace and a ..... scatter!! Now that's why a Sith Lord sqyad should be! Escort and scatter baby!

Really wouldnt be as bad as it seems.

[Crabbok 9,459]

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

And soon to be a boarding team, to boot!

I hate boarding teams.   

 

 Would much rather Darth Vader Officer.  

[MandalorianMoose 1,651]

41 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

I hate boarding teams.   

 

 Would much rather Darth Vader Officer.  

You know it’s only a matter of time...

[Marinealver 7,744]

4 hours ago, Mad Cat said:

I don't really see the problem. Darth is a double brace escort with 5 hull. Very similar to Wedge, Luke and Biggs and only a point or two more. He is more Killy I suppose but not too much for the points. 

Zertek Storm is better, for only 15 points you get the same defence properties as Vader. A bargain even if you never use the reroll ability. 

 

3 hours ago, DR4CO said:

Just ignore Marin. He's been on a seemingly endless rant about errata ever since the X-wing FAQ landed last month.

For those that don't get the joke it is a request for a secret buff. Vader is good but with the weakest (second only to single brace from decimators) defense tokens and no scatter there is no way to protect him so he just dies.

*So removing Escort would be more of a Buff, but don't tell FFG that.

Yeah not a very good topic, but this is what we do without any news.

Edited November 20, 2017 by Marinealver

[ktflory 35]

Vader is teh suxxor. He needs a scatter token.

[Marinealver 7,744]

13 minutes ago, ktflory said:

Vader is teh suxxor. He needs a scatter token.

Agreed, Nerf the double brace to scatter brace too!

shhh, If FFG thinks it is a nerf they just might do it.

[Ophion 797]

Watch irokens ohoenix squadron batrep for proper vader squadron rules.

[Flengin 236]

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

 

For those that don't get the joke it is a request for a secret buff. Vader is good but with the weakest (second only to single brace from decimators) defense tokens and no scatter there is no way to protect him so he just dies.

*So removing Escort would be more of a Buff, but don't tell FFG that.

Yeah not a very good topic, but this is what we do without any news.

 

For whatever it's worth, I got it

 

And even had a bit of a chuckle

[NebulonB 664]

6 hours ago, Thraug said:

Should he instead have had a brace and a ..... scatter!! Now that's why a Sith Lord sqyad should be! Escort and scatter baby!

Really wouldnt be as bad as it seems.

Luke and Vader should both have a scatter, with their force premonition and all.

[Blail Blerg 6,075]

He shoulda have scatter. 

[BrobaFett 4,043]

Double scatter for good measure.

[Ritalbringer 183]

7 hours ago, NebulonB said:

Luke and Vader should both have a scatter, with their force premonition and all.

Makes sense, should have been like that.

Kanan in the Ghost has Scatter and Brace, so why not.

[Swusn 461]

I think Escort on Vader is backwards. The should drop Escort on Vader and he should give Escort to any friendly squadron with Swarm within range 1. 

 

I think he should have Scatter/Brace instead of Brace/Brace.

Edited November 20, 2017 by Swusn

[Ritalbringer 183]

11 hours ago, Swusn said:

I think Escort on Vader is backwards. The should drop Escort on Vader and he should give Escort to any friendly squadron with Swarm within range 1. 

When you see the attack run in the Death Star trench, it makes sense. Vador shouldn't have Escort for any reason, but be the last one being targetable

[Norsehound 2,593]

The root problem of this is us trying to justify why Vader dies first, when clearly we see a horde of underlings in Black Squadron bite it, and Vader is the only survivor.

Heck... You can have Black Squadron and Vader right next to each other and Vader can still die first.

[The Jabbawookie 2,848]

Just remember if FFG cared about lore too much, Mauler Mithel would have escort...

[Sharego 128]

Vader squadron is fine for me bit Vader commander (Tarkin too) should cost less maybe 30-32 

[Democratus 1,698]

6 hours ago, Ritalbringer said:

When you see the attack run in the Death Star trench, it makes sense. Vador shouldn't have Escort for any reason, but be the last one being targetable

How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move.

Theory: The Death Star has Intel.

[Drasnighta 24,486]

8 minutes ago, Democratus said:

How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move.

Theory: The Death Star has Intel.

That'd only allow Darth Vader to move.  Because it'd make Luke heavy, as it is part of Vader's fleet.

 

[Ritalbringer 183]

15 minutes ago, Democratus said:

How are either Luke or Vader even flying down the trench? They are engaged and shouldn't be able to move.

Theory: The Death Star has Intel.

Yeah, and Wedge has Grit. He is the only one able to move out from the fight, but only triggered when he suffers 1 dmg.