Herr Style 152 Posted November 16, 2017 I have a couple of Rebel lists that I want to try out which always involve Ackbar/Mothma/Reikaan. Never my first Admiral who I got in the core set. So I started to build it out and found if I kept things lean, I could fit every ship I own in the list! Not 100% on Objectives yet though. Any advice is welcome, I only ask that if you have a suggestion of adding something, say what you would take out as I'm at 400 points. The limited Squadrons are there to initially hang around Yavaris protecting Dodonna until later in the game. Thanks in advance! FLEET SHIP: Nebulon-B Support Refit 51 Lando Carissian 4 Turbolaser Reroute Circuits 7 Salvation 7 TOTAL POINTS:69 SHIP: MC30c Torpedo Frigate 63 Ordnance Experts 4 Assault Proton Torpedoes 5 TOTAL POINTS:72 SHIP: MC30c Torpedo Frigate 63 Ordnance Experts 4 Assault Proton Torpedoes 5 TOTAL POINTS:72 SHIP: Nebulon-B Escort Frigate 57 General Dodonna 20 Yavaris 5 TOTAL POINTS:82 SHIP: CR90 Corvette A 44 Turbolaser Reroute Circuits 7 TOTAL POINTS:51 SHIP: GR-75 Combat Retrofits 24 Repair Crews 4 TOTAL POINTS:28 SQUADRONSPTS X-wing Squadron × 1 13 X-wing Squadron × 1 13 TOTAL POINTS:26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonestokes 737 Posted November 16, 2017 That's pretty cool! Here are some changes I would consider: On Salvation change TRC into Quad Battery Turrets [save 2 points]; Drop Yavaris title (bear with me) [save 5 points]; Change Nebulon-B Escort Frigate to another Support Frigate [save 6 points]; On CR-90A, add Jaina's Light title [cost +2 points]; Put the Bright Hope title on the GR-75 [cost +2 points] On GR-75, drop to Medium Transport, drop Repair Crews, add Toryn Farr [net save 3 points]; Change the X-Wings to Shara Bey and Tycho Celchu [net cost +7 points]. That leaves you with 5 points you can spend back in however you want. Maybe put the Repair Crews back in, if that's your thing. Or you could put Boosted Comms on the Bright Hope. Or you could put the Yavaris Title back on (though, now you need a token to activate both squadrons). Keep Toryn Farr and the A-Wings close to Dodonna. They will do better to hold off enemy squadrons than just 2 X-Wings will. The X-Wings get to roll 4 blue dice twice, for a total of 16 blue dice without modifications. The A-Wings get to roll 3 blue dice twice, plus 2-3 dice each time they are attacked. Let's assume they are each attacked once (unlikely but possible). That is 6+6+3+2 = 17 blue dice with 6 rerolls in there. 1 Herr Style reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted November 16, 2017 Couple of notes- First off, MC30's are better with the titles. I would find room to make both of them titled ships. I agree with dropping Yavaris title and changing it to a support Neb. It's a pretty big point investment for 2 squads that are going to bite the dust probably turn 3. Salvation/support Neb retrofit on the other hand is a good title with Dodonna. Maybe look to there, and turn the GR75 into the squad pusher. Repair crews as well is a very bad upgrade. The range is too short for it to be effective, it will end up not getting used or causing you to ram yourself far too often. Finally, Nebulons are notoriously flimsy. The admiral will probably be safest on Admonition after you add the title to that MC30. 2 Herr Style and stonestokes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Style 152 Posted November 17, 2017 Thanks for that input guys. I will readjust my list and post it tomorrow. I would like Admon title in if I could, and I have seriously considered going down to 5 ships to add some meat on. Also, I don't own Rebel 1+2 squadrons, only Core, Imp 1 and R&V, but both Rebel fighter packs are on the shopping list (along with Imp 2, another R&V, MC30, etc.....). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted November 17, 2017 There's always room for the titles! Always Room For Titles Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 398/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points) - Foresight ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 80 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points) - Admonition ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 80 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Skilled First Officer ( 1 points) - Projection Experts ( 6 points) = 58 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Salvation ( 7 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 65 total ship cost [ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 71 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) = 18 total ship cost 2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points) 2 Herr Style and stonestokes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Style 152 Posted November 17, 2017 Thanks BrobaFett! As there's always room for titles, how about Jainas Light or Bright Hope for 2 points! Brings me up to 400 then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ritalbringer 183 Posted November 17, 2017 Put Dodonna on a Jaina's Light CR90 as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted November 17, 2017 I wouldn't put bright hope on a naked transport, and while there is room for jainas, I think in this case the 2pt bid is a good idea just so you have a chance at first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrakonLord 751 Posted November 17, 2017 Im so far past the days of being able to use every ship i own. Even if i keep things lean..... Fleet 2870 (974/400) =================== MC80 Command Cruiser (106) MC80 Star Cruiser (96) MC80 Star Cruiser (96) Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72) Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72) Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56) Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56) Nebulon-B Support Refit (51) Nebulon-B Support Refit (51) CR90 Corvette B (39) CR90 Corvette B (39) CR90 Corvette B (39) CR90 Corvette B (39) Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36) Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36) Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36) Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36) GR-75 Medium Transports (18) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Style 152 Posted November 18, 2017 Thanks for all that info. I'd have never thought of putting Projection Experts on my second Neb B! I can see how useful that would be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonestokes 737 Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 10:26 PM, BrobaFett said: There's always room for the titles! Always Room For Titles Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 398/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points) - Foresight ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 80 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points) - Admonition ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 80 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Skilled First Officer ( 1 points) - Projection Experts ( 6 points) = 58 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Salvation ( 7 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 65 total ship cost [ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 71 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) = 18 total ship cost 2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points) Can you find room for Redemption (or Yavaris), Jaina's Light, and Quantum Storm? Dropping the TRCs for QBT and DTT, respectively, gives you J.L. and Q.S. with 1 point left towards R. or Y. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted November 18, 2017 I didnt mean room for all the titles hahaha poorly worded fleet name. I was thinking mc30s only for this fleet you could get without really sacrificing function. Yavaris with less than probably 70 pts in squads will end up being useless most of the game and Redemption is just a bad title. IMO i would that one at the bottom of your storage bin and not pull it out until wave 14 when tanking becomes as good as damage dealing and tank fleets stand a prayer of a chance. Quantum storm is nifty with slicer tools to get it in position but otherwise pretty bad. Bright Hope is great when it is protecting something valuable (toryn far or bomber command are notable) but on a naked transport it isnt quite needed. Jainas Light is great, especially when you sit your Admiral in the cr90. No defense for not adding it, other than the fact that if you have even a small shot at it you want to go first. If you want to go up to 400, then Jainas can only help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Style 152 Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) I could probably put DTT on my cr90 and keep it at long range just peppering with 2 or 3 shots ( Dodonna would be on it now after all), but I put trc on there as standard to hopefully use Dodonnas ability. Same for the Neb title, but thinking about it now, if I took the title off, I could keep TRC's on to generate the same effect, but that then exhausts my only evade token. Hmmmm. The question I have then is: - CR90: -TRC's or DTT? Neb B: -Salvation and TRC's, or one or the other? Also QBT??? Any points saved would go towards a bid or maybe Lando??? The GR75 is a sacrificial lamb/AA platform lol. This could go for a YT2400??? But only if I had a bid. Edited November 18, 2017 by Herr Style Had an after thought! Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites