[MAFIA] Jedi Academy on Obroa-Skai

[PodRacer 1,077]

Who am I investigating?

 

 

[TheToad 321]

15 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Is anyone here actually willing to follow the plan?

If you got a better plan, I’m all ears

[TheToad 321]

But sitting around handlin our birds will get us no where

[Visovics 1,675]

12 minutes ago, TheToad said:

If you got a better plan, I’m all ears

I think that not having a plan is a better plan, but if everyone else wants to follow it I’ll do my part

[PodRacer 1,077]

Aww cmon... It's Saturday night.... 

 

I will investigate Ninjas flavour tonight. I think you should protect me. Obv!

short of investigating vis I'm not sure how to clear him. But if potential jailor is better than flavour cop and you go that way, il be in the observers saying "I told you so" =)

i still think lynching randomly from Nip or Ninja maybe better move, cal has claimed and I can verify if left alive?

 

[TheToad 321]

22 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Who am I investigating?

 

 

In my opinion you should investigate Nippy

@Visovics should lock Ninja up

if we lynch Cal and follow this plan I’m pretty sure the night kill won’t come because I’m pretty sure Ninja is the scum mate.

obviously we can’t cover both of you (Pod and Vis) that’s why I’m keeping my protect secret... so the scum have to take a chance to hit me

is it perfect... no but I believe it’s the best we got

[TheToad 321]

If we follow my plan and the scum kill comes through we will know who the scum is... based on who dies

if Cal flips scum and:

no one dies then it’s Ninja cause he’s locked up

vis dies then it’s Ninja, Nippy or Mad(Pod would have checked Nippy so we’ll get that worked out)

if Pod dies then it’s Mad and Nippy ( cause Ninja is locked up)

if I die then I protected the right guy and it’ll be either Mad or Nippy

 

if Cal flips town and

vis dies, then it’s still Nippy Mad or Ninja and Pods investigation will help us

Pod dies then it’s Mad and Nippy

if I die then it’s either combo of the three and Pods investigation will reveal which one

 

theres the skinny, if you guys see any holes let me know

[TheToad 321]

As I’ve said we’re not gonna get an airtight plan there is risk and I’m willing to take it

[TheToad 321]

3 minutes ago, TheToad said:

If we follow my plan and the scum kill comes through we will know who the scum is... based on who dies

if Cal flips scum and:

no one dies then it’s Ninja cause he’s locked up

vis dies then it’s Ninja, Nippy or Mad(Pod would have checked Nippy so we’ll get that worked out)

if Pod dies then it’s Mad OR Nippy ( cause Ninja is locked up)

if I die then I protected the right guy and it’ll be either Mad or Nippy

 

if Cal flips town and

vis dies, then it’s A COMBO OF Nippy Mad or Ninja and Pods investigation will help us

Pod dies then it’s Mad and Nippy

if I die then it’s either combo of the three and Pods investigation will reveal which one

 

theres the skinny, if you guys see any holes let me know

Edits are in all caps, I’m currently on break at work sorry

[TheToad 321]

3 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Edits are in all caps, I’m currently on break at work sorry

Gah found another mistake... if Cal flips town and I die then it’s Mad an Nips because Ninja is locked up

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Vote Count:

@TheToad (0) - 

@PodRacer (0) - 

@CaribbeanNinja (0) - 

@Caldias (1) - Mad, Toad

@Madaghmire (0) - 

@GhostofNobodyInParticular (0) - 

@Visovics (1) - Pod

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[Caldias 2,209]

I don’t want scum to know who exactly I’m targeting... I want them to have to guess 

I’m not going to do it randomly...

see its remarks like that that get my dander up, you have consistently worked to undermine me and then use my “backlashing” against you doing so as more evidence.

lets look at what I’ve done this game:

i stuck my neck out, being loose with my ability to draw scums attention 

I pointed out the precarious Lylo situation town would have been in had we mis-lynched D1

I then got us to go with a no-lynch to avoid the Lylo

My role has been confirmed by another player

all of this and I still have to defend my self against a guy who has done nothing but get roleblocked and claimed Vanilla 

yea I’m a bit peeved

 

why do we do this every game Cal?

Yeah, dude, no idea why we seen always opposed (well, most of the time that was because we were always separate factions)

To be fair, I totally was with you when you stuck your neck out.  No lynch is generally bad, but we had literally nothing else to go on, so seemed like a good move.  Can someone tell me who confirmed Toad's role?  I might have missed that in my reread.

16 hours ago, Caldias said:

Happy to speak.  I did find this interesting:

You are the only one that claimed having an ability and aren't dead yet.   So I think either you lied about it or you somehow gained protection.  The fact that you didn't die after claiming an ability to me is the most interesting news to come from D1.

This is all I said.  There was no accusation, just hmm, either you were protected/blocked from getting killed or lying.  If you are town, I have no idea why the scum wouldn't have killed you, esp. since you were the only known role on the first night.

6 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Btw, atm I’m leaning towards lynching Cal. Given the number of claims, at this point I think it most likely that he got the mafia faction kill was roleblocked.

Faction block is not the same as roleblocking.  Ebon didn't answer, but Vis, does your ability block FACTION kills?  @Madaghmire when a scum puts in a kill, the action comes from a person representing the faction, but not their role.  I don't think Jailkeepers can block faction stuff, but would love confirmation (though @EbonHawk might not want to tell us).

5 hours ago, TheToad said:

To add to this... you’re town in my eyes, hence my protection N1, because of your logical and generally pro-town stance on the no-lynch issue... I believe both Cal and Ninja sorta opposed the no Lynch, I’m going to have to go back and comb through that

 

4 hours ago, TheToad said:

So after my quick comb through here are my thoughts... Both Cal and Ninja initially opposed the no-lynch and then sorta went with it towards the end..

beginning D2 Ninja says he still dosnt see the logic behind the no vote

Cal tried to lay the shade on me because I didn’t get night killed

 

the only other thing that stands out is Nippy’s weird theory about scum choosing not to kill and saying it’s what he’d do...

 

heres my proposal... we lynch Cal... Vis jails Ninja... and Pod scopes Nips... I’ll keep who I’m guarding secret so scum gotta guess, I’m sure they won’t straight target me but I’m cool if they do obviously 

As I stated above, I wasn't laying shade, making an observation.  For making the observation, you try to lead a lynch party on me.

On 11/9/2017 at 0:44 PM, Caldias said:

A no lynch isn't helpful on Day one as there is no voting record to go off of.  Day two we start over again only down one person.

 

On 11/9/2017 at 3:42 PM, Caldias said:

Fair point.  That's of course also assuming folks have stuff they can do at night, as it is possible no one has any roles.  I mean it is sort of a crapshoot either way, we could do no lynch today, then be lylo day 2, or we could take a stab today and no lynch tomorrow to prevent lylo, if that's the concern.  Does anyone have thoughts on this?  IF we do go this route, I think no lynch today makes more sense, but happy to hear other input.

These are my two posts about no lynches.  You convinced me to go for it, and I actually thought you read pretty town.

Now you are pushing pretty hard for my death, even after Pod confirmed that I wasn't lying about my claim.  I do not think jailkeepers can block faction kills.  I know I'm town, so following the deduction then someone must have tried to ax me last night and Vis saved me.  

I would like to look at other things, but it seems I have to keep defending myself against Toad.

 

[Visovics 1,675]

1 minute ago, Caldias said:

Faction block is not the same as roleblocking.  Ebon didn't answer, but Vis, does your ability block FACTION kills?  @Madaghmire when a scum puts in a kill, the action comes from a person representing the faction, but not their role.  I don't think Jailkeepers can block faction stuff, but would love confirmation (though @EbonHawk might not want to tell us).

I have absolutely no idea, always thought it did tho

[Caldias 2,209]

After reading the wiki, it does appear that role blockers can stop faction kills.  Fair enough.  I hope you guys have enough to go off of once I flip town.

[TheToad 321]

12 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Yeah, dude, no idea why we seen always opposed (well, most of the time that was because we were always separate factions)

To be fair, I totally was with you when you stuck your neck out.  No lynch is generally bad, but we had literally nothing else to go on, so seemed like a good move.  Can someone tell me who confirmed Toad's role?  I might have missed that in my reread.

This is all I said.  There was no accusation, just hmm, either you were protected/blocked from getting killed or lying.  If you are town, I have no idea why the scum wouldn't have killed you, esp. since you were the only known role on the first night.

Faction block is not the same as roleblocking.  Ebon didn't answer, but Vis, does your ability block FACTION kills?  @Madaghmire when a scum puts in a kill, the action comes from a person representing the faction, but not their role.  I don't think Jailkeepers can block faction stuff, but would love confirmation (though @EbonHawk might not want to tell us).

 

As I stated above, I wasn't laying shade, making an observation.  For making the observation, you try to lead a lynch party on me.

 

These are my two posts about no lynches.  You convinced me to go for it, and I actually thought you read pretty town.

Now you are pushing pretty hard for my death, even after Pod confirmed that I wasn't lying about my claim.  I do not think jailkeepers can block faction kills.  I know I'm town, so following the deduction then someone must have tried to ax me last night and Vis saved me.  

I would like to look at other things, but it seems I have to keep defending myself against Toad.

 

Actually, Pod confirmed my role..

If you do flip town then I’m sorry, but I’ve made contingencies for that scenario 

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

1 hour ago, TheToad said:

Gah found another mistake... if Cal flips town and I die then it’s Mad an Nips because Ninja is locked up

OR. With one scum being locked up, if a kill comes through, you have to assume that one OR the other is a scum. You cannot assume both are UNLESS Ninja is confirmed town.

16 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Now you are pushing pretty hard for my death, even after Pod confirmed that I wasn't lying about my claim.  

Pod didn't confirm you.

[Caldias 2,209]

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

OR. With one scum being locked up, if a kill comes through, you have to assume that one OR the other is a scum. You cannot assume both are UNLESS Ninja is confirmed town.

Pod didn't confirm you.

Then why was he saying I seem more town?  I misunderstood him, then.  He said I was seeming town, which made me think he scanned me.  But maybe he meant something else.

[Caldias 2,209]

4 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Actually, Pod confirmed my role..

If you do flip town then I’m sorry, but I’ve made contingencies for that scenario 

I will flip town, and considering the push, I think you might get looked at pretty hard.

I also get I played pretty crap this game, and apologize.  I still think it's extremely weird the dude who said he had a role wasn't killed at night.  Before I thought it was cause he got doctored, but since the protection roles have claimed, we know he just wasn't targeted, which is pretty suspicious.

Just trying to get my thoughts out so town can look back after I flip.  

[Madaghmire 7,274]

The faction kill is part of each mafia role’s abilities. Its why non goon roles cannot use both their unique role ability as well as carrying out the faction kill. Whomsever inputs the command is considered to be making the kill. If that person were targeted by a jailkeeper, he would be unable to effect the kill. Unless the rules are wildly different in this game, but I don’t have any reason to believe that to be the case.

[Caldias 2,209]

Oh man, okay, now I see it.  My bad, Toad.  Pod confirmed you.  I guess my suspicions don't make sense, given that context.

Toad, if you're solid on your plan go ahead and kill me.  Town has a good shot, and I am sorry I had to skim so fast I missed important stuff.

[Caldias 2,209]

##vote GhostofNobodyinParticular just to get it in, since it seems if deductions are correct, then only possible scum are me, GNiPs and Ninja.  I am sorry for playing so poorly, I should've taken the time to read more carefully.

[Visovics 1,675]

I’m not buying Cal as scum, in my opinion, EITHER

-Pod and Toad are scum, and have planned all the “verifying” and targeted Cal because they followed the same lead I did of his “ I AM a tool” taking it as if he had a role

OR

-The scum thought that Toad would be under doc protection so went after Cal following the same lead I did.

Those for me are the most likely outcomes of the night, and I’m believing that Cal is town

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Vote Count:

@TheToad (0) - 

@PodRacer (0) - 

@CaribbeanNinja (0) - 

@Caldias (2) - Mad, Toad

@Madaghmire (0) - 

@GhostofNobodyInParticular (1) - Cal

@Visovics (1) - Pod

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Edited November 11, 2017 by EbonHawk

[Madaghmire 7,274]

23 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I’m not buying Cal as scum, in my opinion, EITHER

-Pod and Toad are scum, and have planned all the “verifying” and targeted Cal because they followed the same lead I did of his “ I AM a tool” taking it as if he had a role

OR

-The scum thought that Toad would be under doc protection so went after Cal following the same lead I did.

Those for me are the most likely outcomes of the night, and I’m believing that Cal is town

If its not cal, it pretty much has to be nips and ninja. Cal dissembles extremely well, what don’t you buy about him being scum?

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Yeah, there is a possibility that Toad and Pod are the scum.It's tough to verify that. 

I can however assure you that I am town, Cal.