[MAFIA] Jedi Academy on Obroa-Skai

[Visovics 1,675]

5 minutes ago, TheToad said:

So after my quick comb through here are my thoughts... Both Cal and Ninja initially opposed the no-lynch and then sorta went with it towards the end..

beginning D2 Ninja says he still dosnt see the logic behind the no vote

Cal tried to lay the shade on me because I didn’t get night killed

 

the only other thing that stands out is Nippy’s weird theory about scum choosing not to kill and saying it’s what he’d do...

 

heres my proposal... we lynch Cal... Vis jails Ninja... and Pod scopes Nips... I’ll keep who I’m guarding secret so scum gotta guess, I’m sure they won’t straight target me but I’m cool if they do obviously 

Planned nights fail in many ways because scum can plan accordingly to their best chances, like here, let's take for the sake of the example that Mad is scum, he is totally out of the plan, he can try to kill the people where he knows there will be a death, for example he already ruled Ninja out, and then you have a slim chance only of picking the same target as him

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

And besides, scanning me is just a waste of time, though obviously you won't agree. 

[Caldias 2,209]

11 hours ago, TheToad said:

Why would lying about my ability protect me? Im just as surprised that I didn’t get night killed but since I’m a town bodyguard I would have been fine with it. My guess is the doc protected me because of my claim.

 

I look forward to you trying to convince town I’m scum... remember I’m the guy that pointed out the potential Lylo situation we were in and then saved us from that by convincing town not to go with a hasty turbo lynch 

Sorry for the delay, I'm on toddler duty.

Toad, I am not saying you're scum, I just said it was interesting and gave us something to work with.  If I was scum, I would've definitely night killed you since you claimed a role.  The fact that you're saying you're a body guard and didn't die helps us puzzle stuff out.  

If you're telling the truth, this makes me think you were probably protected, because I fail to believe scum just wouldn't nightkill, unless we're dealing with something new.

Will read the rest to catch up now, just wanted to say what my reasoning is before I became a victim of Toad's backlash.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

21 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I have no idea. Pod seems to clear Toad (I disagree that Toad clears Pod). For the benefit of the doubt, I think that Pod and Toad should be left alive to perform their duties. 

Vis I shall give the benefit of the doubt. He is the only protective role who claimed and could have prevented a kill and live to tell about it, so I have to assume that his action worked, one way or the other. Which means that either Cal is the target, or the killer.

 

We are 7. I know I am clear, Pod/Toad/Vis oughtn't be lynched today, which clears 4/7 from the lynch-list for this day.

 

Of those 3, it's Cal, Mad, and CNinja. I do not know whom to trust of those three. Mad is arguing strongly for the lynch of Cal. If Mad is scum, and Cal is not, that's the death sentence for Mad. So I have to assume that either Mad is town, or they are both scum and Mad is taking the opportunity to gain some town cred. Either way, it implies that Cal is scum, and that thus we are better off lynching him. I just don't like Mad's disregard for your input.

What are your insights? 

I disregarded ninja because i believe its scum 2 trying to muddy the waters.

[TheToad 321]

If we go through with my plan and the kill still goes through then we’ll know it was Mad, we’ll know what nips is by way of Pod’s check and we’ll know Ninja is clear cause he was locked up

 

If Cal flips town we’ll still know what nips is by way of Pod,Ninja will still be locked up and if the kill goes through we’ll know it’s Mad 

the way I see it either Pod or Vis is getting targeted and I got a 50/50 shot of picking right

and right now that’s the best we got

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

15 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Sorry for the delay, I'm on toddler duty.

Toad, I am not saying you're scum, I just said it was interesting and gave us something to work with.  If I was scum, I would've definitely night killed you since you claimed a role.  The fact that you're saying you're a body guard and didn't die helps us puzzle stuff out.  

If you're telling the truth, this makes me think you were probably protected, because I fail to believe scum just wouldn't nightkill, unless we're dealing with something new.

Will read the rest to catch up now, just wanted to say what my reasoning is before I became a victim of Toad's backlash.

That would imply yet another protective role. Just how powerful are these scum?

14 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I disregarded ninja because i believe its scum 2 trying to muddy the waters.

Ah.

[TheToad 321]

17 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Sorry for the delay, I'm on toddler duty.

Toad, I am not saying you're scum, I just said it was interesting and gave us something to work with.  If I was scum, I would've definitely night killed you since you claimed a role.  The fact that you're saying you're a body guard and didn't die helps us puzzle stuff out.  

If you're telling the truth, this makes me think you were probably protected, because I fail to believe scum just wouldn't nightkill, unless we're dealing with something new.

Will read the rest to catch up now, just wanted to say what my reasoning is before I became a victim of Toad's backlash.

I wasn’t protected... you were role blocked... which is why I’m still alive

 

[TheToad 321]

14 minutes ago, TheToad said:

If we go through with my plan and the kill still goes through then we’ll know it was Mad, we’ll know what nips is by way of Pod’s check and we’ll know Ninja is clear cause he was locked up

 

If Cal flips town we’ll still know what nips is by way of Pod,Ninja will still be locked up and if the kill goes through we’ll know it’s Mad 

the way I see it either Pod or Vis is getting targeted and I got a 50/50 shot of picking right

and right now that’s the best we got

Actually we’re better than 50/50 cause Im pretty sure Ninja is the other scum and is going to get blocked if we go with my plan

[TheToad 321]

Just now, TheToad said:

Actually we’re better than 50/50 cause Im pretty sure Ninja is the other scum and is going to get blocked if we go with my plan

Sorry another thought hit me... because we didn’t lynch D1 we’ve pretty much got this locked in.. we’d have to guess today and tomorrow which I don’t see happening 

[TheToad 321]

3 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Sorry another thought hit me... because we didn’t lynch D1 we’ve pretty much got this locked in.. we’d have to guess today and tomorrow which I don’t see happening 

Edit: guess WRONG today and tomorrow 

[Caldias 2,209]

Man, Toad, I know you accusing me of being scum is like the easiest square to get in Armada mafia bingo, but I am really not getting how me saying you not dying is interesting makes me scum.  My reasoning is sound, and you backlashing against me for no reason makes you look suspicious. 

 

[Visovics 1,675]

33 minutes ago, TheToad said:

If we go through with my plan and the kill still goes through then we’ll know it was Mad, we’ll know what nips is by way of Pod’s check and we’ll know Ninja is clear cause he was locked up

 

If Cal flips town we’ll still know what nips is by way of Pod,Ninja will still be locked up and if the kill goes through we’ll know it’s Mad 

the way I see it either Pod or Vis is getting targeted and I got a 50/50 shot of picking right

and right now that’s the best we got

It’s sounding like a pretty robust plan... that is of course if everyone is truly telling the truth! That is always the one flaw there is

[Caldias 2,209]

4 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Okay I just could have sworn we had one at some point.  That may have been Cal's role in his first game with me.

Yes, I was.

 

Okay, just caught up, and now the role block thing makes sense, I was still thinking of a regular doc..  Sorry about the long delay, and I totally get why that seems scummy.  I swear to you guys I am not, though.  I am vanilla town, Jedi Master Gnost-Dural.  Hopefully that helps with puzzling things out, but probably not.  @EbonHawk can you tell us if a jailkeeper would be able to block a FACTION kill?  I thought those were not tied to one person.

I initially didn't think Toad was scum, but the more defensive he gets the more I am thinking he might be.  That said, Toad tends to backlash when accused, so it could just be Toad being town.  I also don't think it's likely that there's a body guard, a cop, and a jailkeeper, unless we have some uber scum, so one of those three is probably lying.  

I know that my absence has likely sealed my fate, and fair enough.  But after I flip town, I think you should all look very hard at the three claims, and figure out which one is full of it.  If I had to lay down a vote, I'd go Toad due to his strong counter accusation to my observation, but it could be any three of them.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

Bodyguard and jailkeeper make a lot of sense tho, balance wise. They cant protect each other, bodyguard cant successfully protect someone without dying, and jailkeeper cant protect cop without canceling his ability. 

Plus, hes a flavor cop. Not actually a strong role.

[Caldias 2,209]

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Bodyguard and jailkeeper make a lot of sense tho, balance wise. They cant protect each other, bodyguard cant successfully protect someone without dying, and jailkeeper cant protect cop without canceling his ability. 

Plus, hes a flavor cop. Not actually a strong role.

Doesn't that still seem like too many roles, though?  It does to me, but again playing the meta game can be dangerous.  I guess you're right, not nearly as bad as, say, a doc and a jailkeeper.

[Caldias 2,209]

1 hour ago, TheToad said:

So after my quick comb through here are my thoughts... Both Cal and Ninja initially opposed the no-lynch and then sorta went with it towards the end..

beginning D2 Ninja says he still dosnt see the logic behind the no vote

Cal tried to lay the shade on me because I didn’t get night killed

 

the only other thing that stands out is Nippy’s weird theory about scum choosing not to kill and saying it’s what he’d do...

 

heres my proposal... we lynch Cal... Vis jails Ninja... and Pod scopes Nips... I’ll keep who I’m guarding secret so scum gotta guess, I’m sure they won’t straight target me but I’m cool if they do obviously 

Assuming you're town, why would you not protect the jailkeeper?  He is for sure going to get targeted by a scum kill.

[PodRacer 1,077]

Thing is I won't be able to say anything if I die.

Toad your destiny is to die protecting me!

meantime we need to figure out a plan based off the others, I'm not 100% on vis, even if he dies overnight his alleged role block goes through. I will need more proof at this point. 

Cal confirms he was jailed?

i sure as **** don't want to be 'protected' by him just now =)

[Madaghmire 7,274]

Every time I play scum, town does exactly what happened in this game, which is claim way too early. But it actually winds up scaring me, because each time I’m sitting there like “oh ****, if they just work together they have this **** on lock” and I say things like “if we believe X” and “does this actually work” because I want to get town to examine anything but the super easy path to victory they just laid out.

Don’t get snoockered.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

Another day draws to an end on Obroa-Skai, and preparations for the covert mission are well underway.

The Mandalorian threat seems to be building, more and more jedi pass through on reassignment and it's surely a matter of time before those following Revan take up arms...

This Academy must remain secure, it's now more urgent than ever to snuff out the threat of the Covenant, we cannot allow its information to fall into the wrong hands at this time.

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4 to hammer

[Caldias 2,209]

So, I don't know if I would get a notification or not, since I have no role, but I didn't get notice that I was jailed.  However, the fact that no one else died means I am inclined to believe Vis, unless scum is cult, but with all the protection in place I would believe scum is more kill focused.  Assuming this, the fact that town has a jailkeeper also makes me think scum does in fact have a decent role.

I want to think more on this and do some more looking.  In case I am suddenly turboed, I just wanted to say if I get lynched and Vis gets nightkilled, we need to lynch Toad.  His remark about randomly selecting a target is troubling, especially since Vis' role is the most valuable.  

[PodRacer 1,077]

Well cals given off his role and flavour, which is what im after,

Makes him alot more towny than some of you anonymous roles just now

[Visovics 1,675]

10 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Well cals given off his role and flavour, which is what im after,

Makes him alot more towny than some of you anonymous roles just now

So just because I haven't announced myself as Jedi Master Vrook Lamar I seemed more suspicious? Well why didn't you say earlier!

[TheToad 321]

56 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Assuming you're town, why would you not protect the jailkeeper?  He is for sure going to get targeted by a scum kill.

I don’t want scum to know who exactly I’m targeting... I want them to have to guess 

I’m not going to do it randomly...

see its remarks like that that get my dander up, you have consistently worked to undermine me and then use my “backlashing” against you doing so as more evidence.

lets look at what I’ve done this game:

i stuck my neck out, being loose with my ability to draw scums attention 

I pointed out the precarious Lylo situation town would have been in had we mis-lynched D1

I then got us to go with a no-lynch to avoid the Lylo

My role has been confirmed by another player

all of this and I still have to defend my self against a guy who has done nothing but get roleblocked and claimed Vanilla 

yea I’m a bit peeved

 

why do we do this every game Cal?

[TheToad 321]

All bull-**** aside, either Cal is the scum and he got blocked by Vis or he’s town and got  protected right now he’s the best lynch candidate IMO

We can prove the others if we follow my plan

 

##Vote Caldias

[Visovics 1,675]

26 minutes ago, TheToad said:

We can prove the others if we follow my plan

Is anyone here actually willing to follow the plan?