Odanan 4,936 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) On 26/10/2017 at 6:45 AM, Marinealver said: Dengar Nym new meta, enjoy. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Edited October 28, 2017 by Odanan Cel phone 1 Marinealver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohnoeszz 137 Posted October 28, 2017 19 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said: Thweek will be the meta I think he's going to be a significant part of it. Imperial high PS is currently a thing. Thweek will be good against them. If Thweek is good enough, a significant portion of Imperials will bail from the PS race in favor of firepower/durability. Superiority fighters are being given their opening. Not by any one single change but more so the cavalcade of changes caused by the meta re-organizing. They have a chance against most anything. I don't think it's too big a stretch to suggest Quickdraw in particular will be rising to the very top of the usage charts. I also think we're going to see a big uptick in imperial missile lists as cruise and harpoon drop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) IDK. I'd say dengar is basically unnerfable so he's going to (yet again) be fine But scum nym has lost his central gimmick, as genius now forces him to discard bombletts on use Rather than infinite long range bombing options (+ flexibility of just running into your opponent to deny shots) you get two at most Rebel Nym cares a lot less, but even he got good use of ole genius + EU or even just genius to set up key bombs with his ability For my money, the meta will continue to be turrets (which have not been nerfed at all) and maybe harpoons. Dash is literally untouched while Dengar and Miranda are effectively untouched Edited October 28, 2017 by ficklegreendice 1 RStan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celestial Lizards 2,221 Posted October 28, 2017 Seeing how dominant Thweek may be, I've been trying to build with GUNBOATs without VI and Kylo in the shuttle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohnoeszz 137 Posted October 28, 2017 I don't know about dominant, but Thweek does seem like an adequate check on high PS aces. Dominant makes me think of something that dictates how the entire match is played. I don't think Thweek can be that punishing - he's a more reactive ship. Dash seems like the ship set up to be dominant. Kiting has been established as a strong strategy and he's the epitome of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 5,719 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said: I'd say dengar is basically unnerfable ... Pish. "Once per round, after you are hit by an attack, if the attacker is inside your firing arc, you may receice a stress token to perform an attack against that ship." There. I nerfed him. Edited October 28, 2017 by DR4CO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted October 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, DR4CO said: Pish. "Once per round, after you are hit by an attack, if the attacker is inside your firing arc, you may receice a stress token to perform an attack against that ship." There. I nerfed him. bet you he'd still win worlds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnooSnarry 428 Posted October 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said: Seeing how dominant Thweek may be, I've been trying to build with GUNBOATs without VI and Kylo in the shuttle 22 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said: Thweek will be the meta What. 1 Celestial Lizards reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonestokes 737 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) I, too, am predicting a lot of Dash/Miranda, Dash/Nym, and Miranda/Nym still. I am hoping that gunboats and some new Talonbane/Thweek/+1 builds can put the hurt on Dash. I think FSR, even though still strong, will fall out of favor. I can tell you that I've dropped Biggs from my favorite build, and I'm not gonna look back. Edited October 29, 2017 by stonestokes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,068 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) On 10/26/2017 at 1:54 AM, Duskwalker said: -Dangar without unhinged -Nym without genius We will probably see more Dash/Miranda. Whatever it is it will probably have to be nerfed next FAQ. Welcome to the Nerf-meta. Edited October 28, 2017 by Marinealver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celestial Lizards 2,221 Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, SnooSnarry said: What. Eh. I share this account. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kijaucey 53 Posted October 29, 2017 Aces are definitely back for all factions Cruise Missile Imps RAC and Kylo Silencer Miranda and Dengar still 4 tlt aggressors And I think the almighty stresshog will be back in force (probably in 3 ship lists) due to ace saturation in the meta and miranda taking stress to drop action bombs on a slam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites