All the expansions (AT-ST and more)

[Mep 2,291]

@TallGiraffe They do appear to be rather detailed over the old IA ones. I will say they are looking good. I am not sure if they are looking $50 good over $20 for the IA ATST though.

[TallGiraffe 3,447]

Just now, Mep said:

@TallGiraffe They do appear to be rather detailed over the old IA ones. I will say they are looking good. I am not sure if they are looking $50 good over $20 for the IA ATST though.

If I had a minimum I would go 40$. But these will be on sale eventually if you want that second one.

[Raging Celt 223]

45 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

The difference between the materials of the ISD and ATST here is gonna be different. I expect the AT-ST have much more plastic and weight compared to an ISD honestly.

Yeah that's cool and probably true but that still does not justify the price point. 

[TylerTT 1,295]

$50 bucks is more than I was expecting 

but the model is honestly much better than I was expecting as well. It looks almost as nice as the bandai kit but is likely much sturdier and easier to assemble. No small feat.

But Ban-Dai makes what I’m assuming will be nearly the same thing that I can get for about half price and I already own. 

I don’t envy FFG’s position here. 

In my wild dreams FFG teams up with bandai. Allowing them to manufacture the plastics would let them make a wide range of 1/48th figures that they currently don’t seem to have a license for.

[Tirion 2,223]

8 hours ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Yes $50 for an unpainted At-st seems way way too high.  I got a fully painted armada imperial star destroyer for that price.  Looks like a great game but the prices seem the same as Armada which is beautifully painted. I feel $35 or so would have been a fair price for an unpainted atst.  I really want this game but the prices are scary.  I was hoping this game would be a bit cheaper since it’s not painted. 

Do you realize the extra design and plastic that goes into this? There is way more detail on these than an armada ship. You state the prices are "scary", how so? A Raider or CR90 is $20 for way aess actual palstic than comes in a box of storm troopers not to mention there are 7 different molds going on there. So it is cheaper.

7 hours ago, kurttkrueger said:

Excited by this news, but a little bummed everything is monopose and the same sculpts. 

Hope it’s not the case. Will need to raid the WotC minis collection for conversion parts!

Not the all the same look closer

5 hours ago, poke450 said:

The price points seem well in line with hobby miniature games like 40k, etc.

Its way below actually

2 hours ago, Raging Celt said:

I was really hoping for something reasonable, something outside of 40K. Fifty bucks for a model and a set of cards seems excessive.

Clearly you are way out of touch with 40k if you think this is unreasonable.

[kurttkrueger 119]

45 minutes ago, Tirion said:

Not the all the same look closer

Sorry to bust your bubble, but these sculpts for the troopers in the expansions are identical to the contents of the box. 20 plus years have wargaming has trained me pretty well to spot identical sculpts.

On top of that is the fact that you already get two of each squad in the box anyway. So with these expansions and the core set, your getting three lots of each miniature sculpt. That's a helluva lot of same sculpts, and not much variation. 

I'll probably just use different paint schemes for the Rebel troops. But you can't do much for the Stormtroopers except for the odd head turn. 

It wouldn't be so bad if just the squad leaders were different. 

This is not a deal breaker for me, but as a hobbyist, it's incredibly annoying. 

Edited October 26, 2017 by kurttkrueger

[VAYASAN 850]

It says on the article the figures are the same as the Core Box figures.

 

In the Stormtroopers Unit Expansion, you’ll find seven Stormtrooper miniatures, identical to the ones included in the Star Wars: Legion Core Set, along with the unit card and upgrade cards that you need to add another unit of Stormtroopers to your army.

 

Edited October 26, 2017 by VAYASAN

[Gallanteer 520]

Meh. Star Wars take on the 40k franchise is at least 10 years too late. For me to be interested. Plus, no matter how much you hope, the scale is wrong to get AT-ATs in this game.

[VAYASAN 850]

Just now, Gallanteer said:

Meh. Star Wars take on the 40k franchise is at least 10 years too late. For me to be interested. Plus, no matter how much you hope, the scale is wrong to get AT-ATs in this game.

As much as I am looking forward to Legion, I do wish it was 10mm or so for some big battles(a la 40k epic etc)

[ImperialCaptain2017 230]

What I'll probably do is buy a core set and some stormtroopers, then play it like a small-unit tactics game with Star Wars figures. 

Honestly, I was really hoping for a low-cost commander, something like an "Imperial Field Officer" mini that would be cheap to buy and cheap to use in a list. I would have liked to see something comparable to the field commander in Empire at War, I.e. an officer and some storyteller guards.... oh well. Guess they'll make us wait on that.

I did notice that the overpriced dice pack has also arrived, so we have that to look forward too.

[VAYASAN 850]

6 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

What I'll probably do is buy a core set and some stormtroopers, then play it like a small-unit tactics game with Star Wars figures. 

Honestly, I was really hoping for a low-cost commander, something like an "Imperial Field Officer" mini that would be cheap to buy and cheap to use in a list. I would have liked to see something comparable to the field commander in Empire at War, I.e. an officer and some storyteller guards.... oh well. Guess they'll make us wait on that.

I did notice that the overpriced dice pack has also arrived, so we have that to look forward too.

Agreed.

One of the things which will nag me is that every battle for the foreseeable will feature Luke Skywalker and Darth vader?

 

Seems mad to me.

[Sk3tch 571]

15 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

Agreed.

One of the things which will nag me is that every battle for the foreseeable will feature Luke Skywalker and Darth vader?

 

Seems mad to me.

Whats gunna nag at me is the end Vader VS Vader battles.

I really hope there's a second part to wave one with Cheap generic commander and some sort of Special forces. 

[ninclouse2000 1,051]

4 hours ago, Tirion said:

Do you realize the extra design and plastic that goes into this? There is way more detail on these than an armada ship. You state the prices are "scary", how so? A Raider or CR90 is $20 for way aess actual palstic than comes in a box of storm troopers not to mention there are 7 different molds going on there. So it is cheaper.

Not the all the same look closer

Its way below actually

Clearly you are way out of touch with 40k if you think this is unreasonable.

You should try to be less condescending.  You’re like this on the armada thread as well.  Try to be polite. It’s ok that you have your opinion, but it’s also ok for people to question these price points. 

[qwertyuiop 591]

Glad to have the information. However, the price of the AT-ST

 

 

 

 

 

[papy72 493]

6 hours ago, Raging Celt said:

I was really hoping for something reasonable, something outside of 40K. Fifty bucks for a model and a set of cards seems excessive.

A little comparison...

The FFG heavy units are priced at $30 and $50, while the troop units are $25.

I haven't played 40k in forever so I went out to the GW site and looked up their stuff.  In looking at their Space Marine stuff (of which I am most familiar) a 10 man troop squad is $60 and their heavy vehicles tend to be $65 and up.  Heck a single leader model is $35.  One model.  The Legion core comes with 2 leaders.

AND, you have to consider that the rules to use the model in Legion are in the box.  How much are those 40k codexes with the rules?  They have an electronic one for $40 for the Marines, and I saw hardcovers for $50 and some sort of ultimate set that was over $100.

I would happily pay the cost for Legion vs 40k.

[ScottieATF 2,867]

7 hours ago, Raging Celt said:

I was really hoping for something reasonable, something outside of 40K. Fifty bucks for a model and a set of cards seems excessive.

All of those prices are on the low end compared to similar models from say PP or GW. The rules are included, not an additional purchase. For a game with a licenced IP at that.

Too high for your needs is one thing, but not reasonable? Compared to similar products from other similar games, I think you're actually being unreasonable on that.

Edited October 26, 2017 by ScottieATF

[C3POFETT 833]

I was hoping FFG would keep these in scale with the SWIA miniatures. I understand that SWIA is not a property they own outright and Hasbro gets a piece of the pie on every piece, but, here is my true reasoning.

You could bring other "Generals" into the battles and all FFG would have to do is create a "Booster Pack" of cards for the said Generals. I would gladly buy a pack of cards that would bring Han, Leia, Lando, Obi -Wan and Chewbacca into the game. I would gladly buy a pack that would bring the Emperor, Boba Fett, Maul, The Grand Inquisitor, and even a "General Veers" as a General Sorin replacement. They already sell an AT-ST pack, a Stormtrooper pack and either a Rebel Trooper or Alliance Ranger pack.

This could mean immediately bringing them to the game and then FFG could spend more time working on vehicles and less time on ground troops. It would take SO MUCH less time to just create a "Booster Pack" than a new figure sculpt and new packaging.

I also understand the argument for pricing on some of these minatures/vehicles but it is what it is. You will get a beautiful sculpt and all the cards that come with the units. Yes you can buy a Bandai AT-ST for around $29.99 but that is the same price for the T-47. I will be using a SWIA model for a downed AT-ST on my table but it seems like I will be sacrificing a few FFG T-47's as downed terrain on my table as well.

Edited October 26, 2017 by C3POFETT

[Blutsteigen 89]

34 minutes ago, ScottieATF said:

All of those prices are on the low end compared to similar models from say PP or GW. The rules are included, not an additional purchase. For a game with a licenced IP at that.

Too high for your needs is one thing, but not reasonable? Compared to similar products from other similar games, I think you're actually being unreasonable on that.

I agree.  It is rules and supplements where PP and GW get your wallet the most.  A Snowspeeder with models, upgrades and rules in the box at $40 with a typical discount is not bad at all from my experience.

 

And it appears a core set for Rebels, with an added snowspeeder, walker and one or two troop boxes = enough points for a full game.  A standard game from other systems requires far more investment.

[Corver 231]

 Pictures from essen. Good news is the scale of the speeder means IA figures are acceptable ?as scale don't mean squat!

[Tirion 2,223]

6 hours ago, kurttkrueger said:

Sorry to bust your bubble, but these sculpts for the troopers in the expansions are identical to the contents of the box. 20 plus years have wargaming has trained me pretty well to spot identical sculpts.

On top of that is the fact that you already get two of each squad in the box anyway. So with these expansions and the core set, your getting three lots of each miniature sculpt. That's a helluva lot of same sculpts, and not much variation. 

I'll probably just use different paint schemes for the Rebel troops. But you can't do much for the Stormtroopers except for the odd head turn. 

It wouldn't be so bad if just the squad leaders were different. 

This is not a deal breaker for me, but as a hobbyist, it's incredibly annoying. 

Sorry I meant with all the expansions. Misunderstood your original point.

[Tirion 2,223]

4 hours ago, Gallanteer said:

Meh. Star Wars take on the 40k franchise is at least 10 years too late. For me to be interested. Plus, no matter how much you hope, the scale is wrong to get AT-ATs in this game.

Well I've been saying this whole time that they will use a sliding scale so it is possible and what do ya know the t47 is on a sliding scale

[Tirion 2,223]

3 hours ago, ninclouse2000 said:

You should try to be less condescending.  You’re like this on the armada thread as well.  Try to be polite. It’s ok that you have your opinion, but it’s also ok for people to question these price points. 

They questioned.... I answered. 

Just imagine everything I say with a thumbs up or finger guns and you'll get it.

[Tirion 2,223]

2 hours ago, papy72 said:

A little comparison...

The FFG heavy units are priced at $30 and $50, while the troop units are $25.

I haven't played 40k in forever so I went out to the GW site and looked up their stuff.  In looking at their Space Marine stuff (of which I am most familiar) a 10 man troop squad is $60 and their heavy vehicles tend to be $65 and up.  Heck a single leader model is $35.  One model.  The Legion core comes with 2 leaders.

AND, you have to consider that the rules to use the model in Legion are in the box.  How much are those 40k codexes with the rules?  They have an electronic one for $40 for the Marines, and I saw hardcovers for $50 and some sort of ultimate set that was over $100.

I would happily pay the cost for Legion vs 40k.

Someone that can count!

[Tirion 2,223]

2 hours ago, ScottieATF said:

All of those prices are on the low end compared to similar models from say PP or GW. The rules are included, not an additional purchase. For a game with a licenced IP at that.

Too high for your needs is one thing, but not reasonable? Compared to similar products from other similar games, I think you're actually being unreasonable on that.

Hey careful you might be too condescending for this forum.

[Animewarsdude 3,639]

I'm sort of hoping that they will announce two more expansions for wave 1 just to give us a special forces option and a secondary commander. I don't expect to see that, but it would be nice, and if they announced the heavy units separately maybe they might do that for the others?