++Spoilers++ Two Peter Sylvestres? And an engaged Experiment in TDL

[Lancing75 0]

Some help please: we're fairly new to the game and whilst playing TDL last night came up with a couple of queries and any help would be appreciated:

1) Why are there two Peter Sylvestres (of both levels i.e. two card 33s and two cards 35s) in the TDL cards? I mean, ok so two different investigators could each use one but surely this is a bit strange thematically? Did he have a twin brother? We decided to play with only one Peter Sylvestre available but it did leave us with the question, why two? How could this be used and be thematically correct?

2) Also, whilst playing Extracurricular Activity, Agenda 3a gives the Forced instruction "When this agenda would advance by reaching its doom threshold: Instead, remove all doom in play and move the Experiment 1 location toward the Dormitaries". In itself, not a problem, however, we had the situation where the Experiment was engaged with 2 investigators at the Student's Union and remained so to the end of the round. The next turn, the doom on the Agenda reached its threshold so, does the "Forced" instruction overrule the fact that the monster is engaged at the time? Or does being engaged hold the Experiment up? And if so, what happens about the doom on the agenda?

Many thanks for any help folks.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Lancing75

[Buhallin 4,563]

11 minutes ago, Lancing75 said:

1) Why are there two Peter Sylvestres (of both levels i.e. two card 33s and two cards 35s) in the TDL cards? I mean, ok so two different investigators could each use one but surely this is a bit strange thematically? Did he have a twin brother? We decided to play with only one Peter Sylvestre available but it did leave us with the question, why two? How could this be used and be thematically correct?

2) Also, whilst playing Extracurricular Activity, Agenda 3a gives the Forced instruction "When this agenda would advance by reaching its doom threshold: Instead, remove all doom in play and move the Experiment 1 location toward the Dormitaries". In itself, not a problem, however, we had the situation where the Experiment was engaged with 2 investigators at the Student's Union and remained so to the end of the round. The next turn, the doom on the Agenda reached its threshold so, does the "Forced" instruction overrule the fact that the monster is engaged at the time? Or does being engaged hold the Experiment up? And if so, what happens about the doom on the agenda?

1) Uniqueness limits what you can have in play, not what you can have in your deck.  So you could include two copies in hopes of drawing him sooner, or replacing him if he's discarded/defeated.

2) The Experiment is Massive, so it's never really engaged with any of the investigators, just considered to be engaged.  So when he moves, he'll happily move away.  I actually think the same would apply even if he were engaged, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

Final thought, people are pretty careful about spoilers for this game, if you're going to include specific story elements like the Experiment or game text, you should add spoiler tags.

[Lancing75 0]

7 minutes ago, Buhallin said:

Final thought, people are pretty careful about spoilers for this game, if you're going to include specific story elements like the Experiment or game text, you should add spoiler tags.

Thanks for the replies/thoughts there Buhallin. That helps.

Apologies for the spoiler - first-time-posting error. Now amended.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Lancing75
Update to spoiler point

[Khudzlin 734]

There are 2 different versions of Peter Sylvestre. Card #33 is level 0 and card #35 is level 2 (and it's all-around better). When upgrading your deck, you can spend 2 XP to replace a level 0 Peter Sylvestre (or any other card) with a level 2 Peter Sylvestre. However, note that the deckbuilding rules say you can only have 2 copies of each card, by title, so you can only have 2 cards named Peter Sylvestre in your deck. And because Peter is unique, there can only be 1 in play at any time.