[MAFIA] Sands of the New Republic - DAY 1

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

Well, we're not "no-lynching"...

And it looks like Norell has decided it is you.

Onidsen already had you chosen, I just want to see if he's convinced of it still.

[PodRacer 1,077]

@CaribbeanNinja

I didnt dodge 6 bullets and two arson attack to get mowed down by you three I hope. Whatever he says. Keep an open mind.

the anticipation is killing me here =)

[PodRacer 1,077]

@Norell

respond

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

6 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

@CaribbeanNinja

I didnt dodge 6 bullets and two arson attack to get mowed down by you three I hope. Whatever he says. Keep an open mind.

the anticipation is killing me here =)

Well here's the thing:

My biggest issue with you is TheToad. He was lying.  Why would he have said that you were in the Hutt cult?  I'm struggling with that.

Then I went back and read EVERYTHING and saw where Onidsen had an idea of Norell getting culted after his ignite of Gink.  I can see that happening.

[PodRacer 1,077]

4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Why would he have said that you were in the Hutt cult?

Trust me, im gonna be having words with @TheToad for a few games yet XD

Hes in for a world of pain =) 

DONT let the Hutts fool you !

 

 

[PodRacer 1,077]

not to mention he nearly took my head off when i asked about his role the morning after =)

[Onidsen 571]

@CaribbeanNinja

I'm still thinking about Norell.  I've steadily grown less and less suspicious of him.  Could he have been converted?  It's possible.  If he's black sun or Hutt, he'd have been just as worried about the red keys.

If pod flips town, then I'm up for lynching Norell tomorrow. Assuming we have a tomorrow.  Depends on if anyone has a gun, their alignment,  and who they target.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

Just now, Onidsen said:

@CaribbeanNinja

I'm still thinking about Norell.  I've steadily grown less and less suspicious of him.  Could he have been converted?  It's possible.  If he's black sun or Hutt, he'd have been just as worried about the red keys.

If pod flips town, then I'm up for lynching Norell tomorrow. Assuming we have a tomorrow.  Depends on if anyone has a gun, their alignment,  and who they target.

Yup.  I agree.  And if Norell is lying I think we're doomed anyway.

Ok it is time.  Again, if you're town, I'm sorry Pod.

##vote Podracer

@Visovics

@GhostofNobodyInParticular

Thats hammer.

[Truthiness 5,696]

They both appear to be asleep at the wheel, so here's the bare bones:

Pod was a Hutt-aligned fisherman.

You ******* ain't done yet. It is now night.

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

With the day winding down you all agree that surely, a man pointed out by a cult couldn't be town? 

 

@PodRacer has died, he was a CULT-aligned Fisherman for the Hutts.

 

4 players alive, 3 to hammer

1-@Norell(0) - Pod

2-@PodRacer (3) - Onidsen, CNinja, Norell, CNinja

3-@Onidsen(0) - Pod

4-@CaribbeanNinja(0) -

Edited September 19, 2017 by GhostofNobodyInParticular

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Just now, Truthiness said:

They both appear to be asleep at the wheel, so here's the bare bones:

Pod was a Hutt-aligned fisherman.

You ******* ain't done yet. It is now night.

Just barely Ninja'd you, and all because I was looking up how Vis did it!  

[Truthiness 5,696]

17 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Just barely Ninja'd you, and all because I was looking up how Vis did it!  

Sorry!

[PodRacer 1,077]

can someone pm me observers in the meantime pretty please.

[Visovics 1,675]

Suspicions rising, you all walk back in this exhaustive mission

3 players alive, 2 to hammer

1- @CaribbeanNinja (0)

2- @Onidsen (0)

3- @Norell (0)

[Norell 1,198]

OK, so I was right, there is one more cultist in the group. Oh joy of joys, now I have to guess....

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

@Norelldo you think you're ascetic like Broba?  Why wouldn't the cults have converted you after burning Gink?

[Onidsen 571]

Well crap. I was hoping pod was the last one.

Alright. At least one of you is evil.  Norell is pinging my scum radar,  but I'm not going to vote yet. I want to make sure.

[Norell 1,198]

@CaribbeanNinja yes I do think so. That's the only logical explanation I can think about why I wasn't converted after I burned Gink. The other possibility is that all three cult leaders ignored me, despite knowing that I had a power role. Of course I can't be sure, but Broba didn't know for sure that he was ascetic either.

@Onidsen why would you think that I am the bad guy? And to clarify, do you think me to be a scum or a cultist?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

The thing that throws everything off (At least in my opinion) is that I thought I'd figured it out.

Now the 1xCult Leader Recruit idea is out the window.

Unless there actually is a scum role.

[Onidsen 571]

2 hours ago, Norell said:

@CaribbeanNinja yes I do think so. That's the only logical explanation I can think about why I wasn't converted after I burned Gink. The other possibility is that all three cult leaders ignored me, despite knowing that I had a power role. Of course I can't be sure, but Broba didn't know for sure that he was ascetic either.

@Onidsen why would you think that I am the bad guy? And to clarify, do you think me to be a scum or a cultist?

Probably cultist - I'm using scum fast and loose here. Though Serial Killer was a possibility I'd considered, and I haven't completely discarded the possibility.

And mostly, I'm weighing the possibility that you are ascetic against the possibility that you were converted by Black Sun after you burned Gink. Your actions aren't really hitting anything - both you and CNinja are reading roughly equally town in a vacuum to me. But I realized somewhere last cycle that your panic about the Red Keys made as much sense if you were converted by a non-Red Key cult. The results of last cycle rule out the Hutts, but you could have been converted by Black Sun if you weren't ascetic.

If I think that ascetic is more probable, then I'll vote CNinja. If not, I'll vote you. I want to wait before actually voting, because if I get it wrong, the other player will jump on it immediately and end the game.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

@Norella question.

Why didn't you have more people lined up by night five using your power?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

My current thought is Norell is a serial killer Arsonist. It lines up. That's why the cults each had three. 

It is my current guess anyhow. 

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

My current thought is Norell is a serial killer Arsonist. It lines up. That's why the cults each had three. 

It is my current guess anyhow. 

No that makes no sense, he's a vigilante and had to post his ignites. 

[Onidsen 571]

I'm discarding the Norell is a serial killer theory for the moment.

If he were, he'd have primed one of us last night, and triggered us as soon as he got on in the morning, thus winning.

Which means he's either Black Sun (confirmed non-Hutt/non-Red Key) or Town. If he's town, then CNinja is cult or non-Town aligned. Given the lack of information, part of me wishes that we could do a no-lynch. It would give me time to fish an alignment scanner item. There don't seem to be any kills in the game at the moment - although if CNinja is a cult fisherman, there could be a gun fished, which would break that line of attack.

But, while that could potentially be a strategic play, I don't think it would be a fun one. So I'll decide where the evidence best lies by the end of the day.

Until then, Norell, what do you have to say for yourself?

I'm leaning in your direction right now. Convince me out of it.

[Norell 1,198]

3 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

@Norella question.

Why didn't you have more people lined up by night five using your power?

My power worked only form night 1 so I couldn't prime anyone on night 0 (unlike fishermen according to the wiki).

On night 1 I primed Ginkapo, and I triggered on day 2, therefor 1 dead.

On night 2 I was uncertain about who could be a a scum/cult and who couldn't. Note that if I trigger my ability it kills EVERYONE I primed before and I didn't want to risk to kill other townies - surgical demolition if you wish - So on day 3 I had nobody primed.

By night 3 I had my strong suspicions about JJ therefor I primed him.

Night 4 I primed Caldias who I was positive being a cultist and in league with JJ. So when I was force to trigger on day 5 I had only JJ and Caldias primed.  Too bad because the original plan was to collect more of the to cultist suspects from various cults and then kill them all at once, drastically reducing their chance of winning. Meanwhile if I manage to convince the town to lynch some of them, all the better because we would have more breathing room.

I was very suspicious about Pod and Dras that they may be cultists so I would wanted to prime them and frankly I hoped I would figure out which of you was the last remaining wild card before I had to trigger. Too bad neither of you wasn't willing o lynch Cal...

 

Oni if I were a third-party why didn't I "accidentally" prime an almost guaranteed townie as well and when I triggered the second time he could have been a "necessary sacrifice" or something. In fact why would I have bothered to prime only enemies of the town? I must be saying the truth about being an arsonist because there is no other role that can daykill more than one player by action. So why would I lie about the rest? I can't prove that I'm not cultist. I can't prove that I'm ascetic either, I can only say abut that that Broba didn't know about he's being one either. Funnily the ones who could prove the latter are you two. Theoretically you could wait for the night and shoot at me or investigate each other (investigating me would end up with the same result as it did with Broba so it would be inconclusive). However I don't think it's a good idea at all. Unless both of you have bulletproof vests in your inventory already to save yourselves form a possible cultist kill, it would be a very high risk not to lynch somebody today. Fortunately we're not in a rush we still have plenty of time to decide on today's action.