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Heroes of Scarif pack; Rebellions are built on hope. What needs to be in it?

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9 minutes ago, Imperial officer said:

Easy trick Omega Leader would be a monster...

Juke + VI or Juke + Intensity. Oh, you could get Intensity and Juke on the TIE/sf with that, to keep a possible Comm Booster loaded.

In fact getting two EPT's on any small ship with a Tech Slot becomes very interesting. No quite OL nasty, as they lack the lockdown to prevent modding the focus result, but still.

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51 minutes ago, xanderf said:

...not to mention more X-Wings (green squadron colors?), and Y-Wings (red squadron?), too...

 

That's the green of Phoenix Squadron, and looking at the image, that looks like Chopper and Hera in the lead X-Wing.

 

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I like most of what I'm hearing here. U-wing with a "door gunner" upgrade that creates a side arc that can be switched from side to side would be a great way to add versatility to the U-Wing.

Y-wing... other than Kavil for scum I don't think any other Y-wing has a EPT, I would like to see more Y-wings with native EPTS but Im not sure how that will happen other than the astromech that adds EPTS from the Rebel Transport expansion. The two seater option should be a title/modification that adds crew (cant remember the actual model of the two seater Y-Wing) as already stated.

Blue squadron X-Wings is a no brainer as well as a title that helps T-65 X-wings. (I know every fix is different but something similar to the Kihraxz fighter fix would work well on the T-65 as they have similar dials, stats and the issue of being a well rounded fighter in a game of specialists)

K2SO needs to be added either as a crew, U-wing Pilot or preferably both.

I would also like to see partisan X-wings that have Rebel and Scum Pilot Cards and a Saw Gerrara Crew card! But I don't think thats likely to happen

I would also like to see the TIE Reaper but that would require a Imperial version of the same pack and while I think it would be awesome to have the TIE Reaper and Krennics Delta Class shuttle be their own expansion I don't think it will happen unless those ships could be very different kind of shuttles for the Empire. I also don't think there are enough open SKUs to fit this product...

Honestly I love this game, but I was really let down that all we got from Rogue One was the TIE Striker (which I love in the game) and the U-Wing (which lets face it, is a cool ship, but a flop in game..) Ideally if I lived in a dream world I would love to see a Heroes of Scariff expansion that has a blue squadron X-Wing a alternate paint scheme Gold Squadron Y-wing and a Partisan X-wing (Most wanted style 3 pack) with all the goodies mentioned but I would also love to see a Scariff Citadel expansion that has the TIE Reaper, Krennics Delta Class shuttle and Death Trooper / Director Krennic Crew Cards... but like I said, I don't think that will happen.

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I'm afraid the game won't be able to keep up with the release schedule of the movies. It's gonna get harder to go back and re-release older ships with "fixes" with a new movie each year. Add in Rebels and what ever replaces it. Could lead to many waves and special packs per year. 

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1 minute ago, drail14me said:

I'm afraid the game won't be able to keep up with the release schedule of the movies. It's gonna get harder to go back and re-release older ships with "fixes" with a new movie each year. Add in Rebels and what ever replaces it. Could lead to many waves and special packs per year. 

But the bright side is it adds lots of content and keeps the game alive. I've sunk hundreds into this game so I don't want it to die out because of lack of new content... tho they could always keep digging from the EU as well...

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4 minutes ago, Phoenix5454 said:

But the bright side is it adds lots of content and keeps the game alive. I've sunk hundreds into this game so I don't want it to die out because of lack of new content... tho they could always keep digging from the EU as well...

True. And a lot of content will overlap. Rebels, Rogue One and the OT can all be easily covered. Lots of opportunities for a T-65 fix. Phoenix Squadron, Red Squadron and Blue squadron. Maybe a T-65 three pack!!

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I'm in for everything that brings love to Xs Ys Us or any OT and Rogue One material.... Also the season 4 of rebels looks great to get some alternate color miniatures and new pilots (or fixes).

As others have started to say it I suggest that the official motto for this "pack claims" should be...

... Rebellions are built on hope

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I don't see the point against a X-Wing + TIE Reaper expansion. Sure there are some one factioner (I'm kinda one of those, or at least I have like 3 rebel ships), but I mean even if you are a rebel only player, you have at least 2 TIE fighters or TIE/fo fighters, and more probably at least 2 of each, so one more (cool-looking) ship would't be such a pain, would it ?

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It might be a little unusual for an "Aces" box, but I really think a triple pack like Most Wanted would be ideal - new paint scheme Xs, Ys and Us. And if that's too much, at least throw in the cards and cardboard for the third ship, whatever you don't want a new print of. 

Xs and Ys need a generic with an EPT, and some of their earlier pilots need to get a Poe, and get an EPT added to them. Ys would need new pilots more than Xs, but the X-Wing can get a bone there too. Rebels should get access to the BTL title and bomb loadout without needing to buy a Scum box. X-Wings could probably use a title to give them new upgrade options, or repositioning power - but it should be thematic. Vaksai is very much what the Kihraxz is supposed to do, X-Wings are not necessarily like that. Also I want an Astromech that is just Guidance chips but for Torps only so torpedos can be a thing. 

U-Wing could use a couple pilots (I'm thinking Hera and K2S0 right now), and K2 needs his crew card. I don't know how lore friendly it is, but adding the "Door Gunner" or door gun to allow it additional fields of fire would be pretty good. Or give Bistan a new crew card which does that because that's actually relevant to his character. I wonder if a little firing arc token for the base is feasible, like a "fixed" mobile arc? Otherwise it could just be making out of arc attacks - that'd give it something over the Gunship. 

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8 minutes ago, MalanTai said:

I don't see the point against a X-Wing + TIE Reaper expansion. Sure there are some one factioner (I'm kinda one of those, or at least I have like 3 rebel ships), but I mean even if you are a rebel only player, you have at least 2 TIE fighters or TIE/fo fighters, and more probably at least 2 of each, so one more (cool-looking) ship would't be such a pain, would it ?

Up to this point there have been expansions where the ship can be used under two factions but never a pack that has a ship for one faction and ship for another that don't cross factions in any way. Im not opposed to it I just think based on FFGs releases up to this point, Rebel ships would be in one pack and Imperial in another, however if they had a Scariff pack that did just that and had a Blue Squadron X-Wing and a TIE reaper with delicious goodies for both factions I'd be all for it.

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Why does anyone think that a Scarif anything is still happening? The window for a pack like that closed. FFG are not going to release a product branded for a film that is almost a year old when they have another film to release stuff for at the end of this year, and then another one mid next year (and all the subsequent ones). There's 'nowhere in the release schedule' for it, the same reason the E-Wing is not going to get fixed. You can be damned sure the Punisher won't either (because the [expletive deleted] Star Wing is clearly designed to replace it), and I'd be tempted to lay money on the mythical X-Wing fix never actually happening. When you consider how long the namesake ship has been irrelevant outside of extremely casual play, and how important it should be to get it up to speed, the fact that it still hasn't happened after so many opportunities suggests there's no room/incentive for it.

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2 minutes ago, UnitOmega said:

X-Wings could probably use a title to give them new upgrade options, or repositioning power - but it should be thematic. Vaksai is very much what the Kihraxz is supposed to do, X-Wings are not necessarily like that. 

 

I get what you're saying, what I was thinking and what I said are two different things (sorry jet lagged) The Vaksai title has actually made my Kihraxz fighters somewhat playable and thats mostly because I upgrade them with Pulsed Ray Shield, Engine Upgrade and Vectored Thrusters. Rebels already have astros that can regen and the repositioning actions really help these ships in my experience however I agree an X-Wing is not a freelance ship that can be hot-rodded to the pilots needs. BUT as the OP stated, we saw some pretty impressive flying from some of the X-Wings above the battle of scariff so what I was thinking is some combination of a title that allows the T-65 X-wing to equip VT and EU for a reduced cost with the ability to equip a third 0 point modification (Integrated Astromech) and this title upgrade is either 0 points or negative points if the title just allowed the barrel role and boost action to be added without the addition of the upgrade cards.

Another option would be a double sided S-Foils Title that manipulates the T-65 X-Wing actions and attacks. have it be able to be triggered when performing a certain move (After performing a straight move you may flip the S-Foils Title Card), one side would be a maneuverability boost (S-Foils closed, You may perform the boost and barrel roll actions, you may not modify attack dice while this side is up) S-Foils Open (You may add a Focus Result to your attack die roll) the key to making this useful is to have it trigger during the move phase and before the combat phase and not be an action. Unsure of points cost.

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14 minutes ago, MalusCalibur said:

Why does anyone think that a Scarif anything is still happening? The window for a pack like that closed. FFG are not going to release a product branded for a film that is almost a year old when they have another film to release stuff for at the end of this year, and then another one mid next year (and all the subsequent ones). There's 'nowhere in the release schedule' for it, the same reason the E-Wing is not going to get fixed. You can be damned sure the Punisher won't either (because the [expletive deleted] Star Wing is clearly designed to replace it), and I'd be tempted to lay money on the mythical X-Wing fix never actually happening. When you consider how long the namesake ship has been irrelevant outside of extremely casual play, and how important it should be to get it up to speed, the fact that it still hasn't happened after so many opportunities suggests there's no room/incentive for it.

I don't believe the window has closed. We got two ships from that movie. There's still plenty of room and time to add more. 

I will agree with you somewhat on the X-Wing fix. They had the perfect opportunity with Rogue one releasing. However, with Rogue one and Season 4 of Rebels, I think the real opportunity is ahead of us. 

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28 minutes ago, Phoenix5454 said:

The Vaksai title has actually made my Kihraxz fighters somewhat playable and that's mostly because I upgrade them with Pulsed Ray Shield, Engine Upgrade and Vectored Thrusters.

Yeah, I didn't really mean that as a specific counterpoint to anyone in particular - I just see a lot of "Oh man Vaksai is really cool, why doesn't the X-Wing get that?", sometimes with an undercurrent of "why doesn't a real ship" get it. But despite their mechanical similarities the X-Wing and Kihraxz aren't necessarily originally developed to be similar, that's something FFG kind of emphasized for the minis game. I think Vaksai  very strongly encapsulates what the Kihraxz is supposed to do in the background, and whatever they do for the X-wing should have similar results but hopefully not be phrased the same way and play to a basis in the X-Wing's lore too. 

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1 hour ago, drail14me said:

True. And a lot of content will overlap. Rebels, Rogue One and the OT can all be easily covered. Lots of opportunities for a T-65 fix. Phoenix Squadron, Red Squadron and Blue squadron. Maybe a T-65 three pack!!

Now that would be an awesome. Definitely a great pack.

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Been thinking of Title and upgrade cards I'd like to see in a Scarif pack for the X-Wing. Came up with these. Critique please. How would they play?

 

Can't get the jpgs to upload. keep getting an error.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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