Thorinrazer 7 Posted August 14, 2017 Faction: Galactic Empire Points: 400/400 Commander: Darth Vader Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Sensor Net [ flagship ] Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Darth Vader ( 36 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 104 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) = 73 total ship cost Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points) = 95 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost 2 Lambda-class Shuttles ( 30 points) 4 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 48 points) 1 BrobaFett reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted August 14, 2017 Nav team is an interesting take on the Arq's, I really like that solution to their nav charts! That said, I am not wholly convinced I would rely on Coms net to provide the tokens. It locks you into an awkward sort of activation order depending on when you spend the tokens and could leave you a little gimped when you needed it most. Still, I really like the idea and if you can fly it well man it could be super fun! I am just hypothesizing because I have never tried that combo. 2 n00bzilla99 and Thorinrazer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 2,113 Posted August 15, 2017 Swap enhanced armament for Needa & TRC. I'm not that keen on nav teams as you probably should be navigating to use the turning. Now you can downgrade to the cheaper Arquitens and put RBDs on the flagship at least. Quad battery turrets on the VSD is a good bet with an extra dice out of both gunnery team front arc shots. Drop advanced gunnery as the VSD can't benefit from it (having GTs) and some Ackbar Defiance or Avenger BT chap will give you the great mace in the face treatment. Most wanted is a better red mission for you. With 2 Lamdas fire lanes can be fun. With so many Tie-As consider Sontir Fel. 3 BrobaFett, Megatronrex and Thorinrazer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted August 15, 2017 All good points above mad cat, but I tried to get arquitens to work for a long time before I decided that I absolutely need a nav command and a c.f. command on the same turn to make them work. I might actually try this with Tarkin, and bank a c.f. token turn one for re roll and then on demand the nav token for nav teams. Remove the flora for one more arq as coms nets would be unneeded which would significantly up gun the fleet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) You inspired me to build this list! It is definitely a variation on your theme, but with 4 Arquitens and Tarkin to fuel Nav Teams with those sweet sweet tokens. I figure I would Tarkin CF turn 1 and Nav turn 2, while dialing nav both turns to get my speed and position adjusted and start forming up the battle line. Then keep supplying CF and Nav tokens as needed for extra yaw and red dice rerolls. A squad token on the Goz means he can always activate the 3 token squads Tarkin is expensive, but man in a fleet like this he can be stretched for some really impressive gains. Also, just a note, a Glad-1 with OE, APT, and Demo is exactly the same points as one one of the Arquitens, so it could easily be swapped in for flavor if one wanted. Without engine techs it doesn't benefit as much from Tarkin, but it's got Demo damage output, so if for some reason the Arquitens still don't push the required damage it could be used as a sweeper. Revenge of the Tarkin Author: Brobafett Faction: Galactic Empire Points: 400/400 Commander: Grand Moff Tarkin Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Capture the VIP Navigation Objective: Solar Corona [ flagship ] Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Grand Moff Tarkin ( 38 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 113 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 75 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 75 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 75 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) = 23 total ship cost 1 "Mauler" Mithel ( 15 points) 2 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 24 points) Edited August 15, 2017 by BrobaFett 1 Megatronrex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorinrazer 7 Posted August 15, 2017 So I have tweaked my list based on some of your inputs , see below. I think I will only require each gozanti to provide one nav token so I am not to worried about the forced activation order problem. My squadrons are only a screen and once engaged the gozantis don't need to push the squadrons and can feed other tokens as required. Thanks for all the help inputs! VSD+2Arq+2Goz+escortball Author: Thorinrazer Faction: Galactic Empire Points: 400/400 Commander: Darth Vader Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Sensor Net [ flagship ] Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Darth Vader ( 36 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 109 total ship cost Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points) - Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points) = 100 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) = 73 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost 3 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 36 points) 1 Lambda-class Shuttle ( 15 points) 1 Ciena Ree ( 17 points) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,201 Posted August 16, 2017 Hey @Thorinrazer! Just wanted to say that thanks again for the nav team idea. I played my 4 arq tarkin nav team fleet you inspired and it rocked. Tabled a dual vsd, dual goz defender spam list. Most fun I've had flying a ship in a long time! I think you are really onto something with this fleet, as the vsd likes the coms net flotillas too. The squads could still be tweaked, as you would get more out of soontir and advanced than ciena as she does thing unless she is the target. 1 Thorinrazer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorinrazer 7 Posted August 16, 2017 I completely agree that sontir would be a better fit but I have to find one point somewhere. The most logical spot is the enhanced armaments but I want these arqs to hit like a ton of bricks. Will continue to think, thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorinrazer 7 Posted August 17, 2017 I believe that with the nav teams and comms net I will be able to dial concentrate fire on the arqs very frequently so decided to take the needa + trc to get me the one point to swap cieena for sontir. Won't get to try it until late next week. VSD+2Arq+2Goz+escortSontirBall Author: Thorinrazer Faction: Galactic Empire Points: 400/400 Commander: Darth Vader Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Sensor Net Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points) - Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points) = 100 total ship cost [ flagship ] Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Darth Vader ( 36 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 109 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Captain Needa ( 2 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 72 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost 3 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 36 points) 1 Lambda-class Shuttle ( 15 points) 1 Soontir Fel ( 18 points) 1 anonymousguy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonymousguy 119 Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 7:08 PM, Thorinrazer said: I believe that with the nav teams and comms net I will be able to dial concentrate fire on the arqs very frequently so decided to take the needa + trc to get me the one point to swap cieena for sontir. Won't get to try it until late next week. VSD+2Arq+2Goz+escortSontirBall Author: Thorinrazer Faction: Galactic Empire Points: 400/400 Commander: Darth Vader Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Sensor Net Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points) - Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points) = 100 total ship cost [ flagship ] Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Darth Vader ( 36 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 109 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost Arquitens-class Command Cruiser (59 points) - Captain Needa ( 2 points) - Nav Team ( 4 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 72 total ship cost Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 25 total ship cost 3 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 36 points) 1 Lambda-class Shuttle ( 15 points) 1 Soontir Fel ( 18 points) I'm not sure this list can get any better! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorinrazer 7 Posted August 26, 2017 So I flew this fleet this week and I tabled my opponent but I can't give all of the credit to the fleet. My opponent made a mistake in deployment which allowed me to defeat each ship piecemeal. I only made use of nav teams on 2 occasions so I think I will mod this fleet to the light cruisers, tweak their loading and perhaps tweak the squadrons a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General6Kracker 4 Posted August 27, 2017 Great job on your victory, but in my opinion for your squads, if you only want to use them for a screen then I would suggest to switch to just TIE Fighters. If you switch them for the point value of your current squads you could have 8 TIE Fighters to use as defense protecting your ships or offense for your fleet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonymousguy 119 Posted August 30, 2017 How about for the squadron screen, you use 3 lambda shuttles and Valen Rudor. You save 11 points. You should also take @General6Kracker's fighter screen into consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
