Suzume Tomonori 543 Posted August 9, 2017 Captive Audience is the answer to Kuroi Mori if your local meta sees it played a lot. I've always liked movement trick-heavy decks. Might try and see what some Unicorn splash does for a Phoenix Deck (Breakthrough gives you more ability to control which rings your opponent has access to, which might combo well?) 1 LordBlunt reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shu2jack 610 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wintersong said: Will have to play to see but I do like her. She would seem better than Toturi in any case? It appears Toturi (and Kisada) can take out an entire horse solo. Edited August 9, 2017 by Shu2jack 1 Kuni Katsuyoshi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuni Katsuyoshi 1,261 Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, RandomJC said: So...play Unicorn? No, play Crab ?..but splash Unicorn ? ? 3 Doji Kao, RandomJC and Mirumoto Saito reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzume Tomonori 543 Posted August 9, 2017 I'll note that the Meishodo guy is dynasty, not conflict, so at the moment Phoenix can't splash Meishodo to create an "embrace their foreign ways" sort of deck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomJC 1,542 Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said: No, play Crab ?..but splash Unicorn ? ? If I wanted to stand back and scratch my ***. 2 Kitsu Seinosuke and Kuni Katsuyoshi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Usaretama 16 Posted August 9, 2017 Hmmm. Would Altansarnai's ability work with Endless Plains? It only specifies that you have to break a province and that it's during a military conflict, but I don't think the timing structure works out since you would have to trigger it in step 3.2 of the conflict resolution and you don't declare defenders (which is when she would actually be participating in the conflict) until 3.2.1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BordOne 258 Posted August 9, 2017 Meishodo guy fluff text seems to be kinda off? Or they also speak with the kami? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzume Tomonori 543 Posted August 9, 2017 Also, looks like the dude on Breakthrough is Shinjo Tatsuo. I always like it when characters show up in the art of other cards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzume Tomonori 543 Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, BordOne said: Meishodo guy fluff text seems to be kinda off? Or they also speak with the kami? I think it's a "true name" sort of thing; knowing the true name lets you control a creature. If my understanding is correct, Rokugani shugenja do not normally control kami, they more or less ask them for favors. Shugenja are good at talking kami into doing stuff for them, but the kami aren't mystically compelled to follow the shugenja's orders. 4 Laurence J Sinclair, BordOne, Devin-the-Poet and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuni Katsuyoshi 1,261 Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, RandomJC said: If I wanted to stand back and scratch my ***. Tetsubo make excellent dual-use items in this regard ???? 2 RandomJC and shosuko reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzume Tomonori 543 Posted August 9, 2017 Now I'm wondering if we'll see the reverse of Captive Audience out of the Scorpion. 5 Brekekekiwi, Togashi Gao Shan, Isawa Enns and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuni Katsuyoshi 1,261 Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Suzume Tomonori said: Now I'm wondering if we'll see the reverse of Captive Audience out of the Scorpion. Why don't we just call it Auto Crane Splash for now?? 1 Wintersong reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillos 1,523 Posted August 9, 2017 So they have a subtheme of character removal. I'm not sure how strong it will be since the champ and their province both let the opponent choose the target, and they both require a break.... will Unicorn be interested in Fallen In Battle? I don't think I've ever seen someone use that card yet in a proxy game. The movement stuff all looks brutal. Also if Lion picks a Keeper role then I could totally see splashing 3x Captive Audience and 3x Breakthrough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shosuko 2,174 Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, phillos said: So they have a subtheme of character removal. I'm not sure how strong it will be since the champ and their province both let the opponent choose the target, and they both require a break.... will Unicorn be interested in Fallen In Battle? I don't think I've ever seen someone use that card yet in a proxy game. The movement stuff all looks brutal. Also if Lion picks a Keeper role then I could totally see splashing 3x Captive Audience and 3x Breakthrough. I think the Unicorn are bent on a double MIL prov break as the first 2 conflicts of the turn. Its their dream play. After defending against 2 province breaks you aren't likely to have enough to keep going... especially if you had to also lose 1-2 characters... Even losing just 1 is big if you have to defend twice against this. I really love how Cavalry Reserve works. This, Charge AND extremely efficient cards like Meishodo Wielder, Moto Horde, and Moto Youth... The Unicorn should not have much difficulty fielding 2 attacking conflicts a turn. Unlike the Lion they aren't likely to care if they lose some honor in the process. 4 RandomJC, phillos, Kuni Katsuyoshi and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamedog 150 Posted August 9, 2017 Wait, now I'm confused. Was it Hotaru who killed Arasou or Altansarai dressed as Hotaru? 1 twinstarbmc reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone37 3,353 Posted August 9, 2017 I was just about to make fun of the idea of a "Unicorn" clan in an Edo period inspired card game, but then I read the article. I think I get their strategy.... while their opponent underestimates them because of the out of place European fantasy name, they swiftly ride in, salt and burn everything, and then get the last laugh. I look forward to trying these cards (and this clan) out soon! 4 Doji Tori, Laurence J Sinclair, BCumming and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillos 1,523 Posted August 9, 2017 I think it's worth mentioning just how unsplashable most of their conflict cards are even though they have reasonable influence costs. It's all mostly centered on the Cavalry keyword or being a Unicorn. I guess that's fitting for the outsider clan in xenophobic Rokugan. 4 Shu2jack, Kitsu Seinosuke, RandomJC and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuni Katsuyoshi 1,261 Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stone37 said: I was just about to make fun of the idea of a "Unicorn" clan in an Edo period inspired card game, but then I read the article. I think I get their strategy.... while their opponent underestimates them because of the out of place European fantasy name, they swiftly ride in, salt and burn everything, and then get the last laugh. I look forward to trying these cards (and this clan) out soon! I am forced to note that Rokugan is extremely UN-Edo period.? 3 SHARKOSAURUS, Stone37 and Isawa Omi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devin-the-Poet 224 Posted August 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gamedog said: Wait, now I'm confused. Was it Hotaru who killed Arasou or Altansarai dressed as Hotaru? That probably depends if any provinces were broken. 1 Gamedog reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devin-the-Poet 224 Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, phillos said: I think it's worth mentioning just how unsplashable most of their conflict cards are even though they have reasonable influence costs. It's all mostly centered on the Cavalry keyword or being a Unicorn. I guess that's fitting for the outsider clan in xenophobic Rokugan. I know Dragon will welcome some favored mounts from their allies any time. 2 Kuni Katsuyoshi and shosuko reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuni Katsuyoshi 1,261 Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Devin-the-Poet said: I know Dragon will welcome some favored mounts from their allies any time. Just don't run over any children ? 10 Togashi Gao Shan, Mirumoto Kuroniten, HirumaShigure and 7 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsu Seinosuke 440 Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, phillos said: I think it's worth mentioning just how unsplashable most of their conflict cards are even though they have reasonable influence costs. It's all mostly centered on the Cavalry keyword or being a Unicorn. I guess that's fitting for the outsider clan in xenophobic Rokugan. Can I briefly derail to mention that this always annoyed me? Every clan worth their ceremonially-purified salt should have cavalry cards. It's not as if it's a secret technique like meishodo or ishikendo. They might not have enough to build a deck, but they should be there. If they were there, then splashing Unicorn to help them would be enormously flavourful. Sadly they aren't there, so as you point out, the splash can't be made as easily. 3 Mirumoto Saito, LordBlunt and Kuni Katsuyoshi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asako Michi 1,746 Posted August 9, 2017 Well then...so basically if you've played your cards right, you can declare the first military conflict for the round, pay a measly 3 Fate, and pull a Moto Horde and 2 Moto Youths out of your Dynasty discard, and bam. Instant +12 Mil to whatever you declared the conflict with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wintersong 879 Posted August 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, phillos said: I think it's worth mentioning just how unsplashable most of their conflict cards are even though they have reasonable influence costs. It's all mostly centered on the Cavalry keyword or being a Unicorn. I guess that's fitting for the outsider clan in xenophobic Rokugan. Other clans getting cavalry won't be a surprise. They won't be part of a fancy Unicorn deck and all the tricks it entails, but cavalry will be out there. With ponies. Because Unicorn is the only clan with tall horses. :-P Favored Mount seems a solid splash. I see no issues with Spyglass or Ide Messenger. Breakthrough can be tricky but no cavalry needed. And Captive Audience... yeah. I Am Ready will need more time to be worth out of Unicorn because only Ide Messenger right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horvagab 67 Posted August 9, 2017 Giver of Gifts with Dragon looks nice. Not sure if Conflict though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites