Courtesy of the Jade Throne Podcast - Adept of Shadows

[Daigotsu Steve 402]

 

Adept - 2/2/2 - 0 Bushi. Shinobi.

Action: Lose 1 honor - return this character to your hand.

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Hmm mmmmmmm Nelly.
 

Edited August 8, 2017 by Daigotsu Steve

[RandomJC 1,542]

As someone smarter than me has said, Crab may like her in their conflict deck (Vengeful beserker)

[Sometimes Y 33]

Seems really versatile. Pop her back before the end of the Fate phase to avoid discard, or during Conflicts after she's bowed to get a second/third/fourth use out of her. Also seems like an easy way to help keep Scorpion's honour total low, if that ends up being part of their overarching strat.

[Yogo Gohei 622]

Edit: It helps to know what cards do before commenting.  Nothing to see here.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Yogo Gohei

[Fumo 156]

1 minute ago, Yogo Gohei said:

Between Adept of Shadows and Shosuro Actress, Vengeful Berzerker is looking like a mighty fine splash for Scorpion.

Except he's a Dynasty character. Poor guy.

[RandomJC 1,542]

1 minute ago, Fumo said:

Except he's a Dynasty character. Poor guy.

Or scorpion looks like mighty fine splash for Crab. 

[Togashi Gao Shan 772]

So, what happens if you copy her ability with Togashi Yokuni and then he uses the ability? 

[RandomJC 1,542]

2 minutes ago, Togashi Gao Shan said:

So, what happens if you copy her ability with Togashi Yokuni and then he uses the ability? 

Oh my god...just have Togashi pop into your hand. I want this to happen.

 

[Wintersong 879]

Courtesy of Casanunda 2 hours ago? 

Her mask reminds me of Kachiko.

[Cambeul no Oni 105]

41 minutes ago, Togashi Gao Shan said:

So, what happens if you copy her ability with Togashi Yokuni and then he uses the ability? 

Illegal action fails?

or

Yokuni goes to hand and then has no way of coming back into play because Dynasty Personality cannot return to play from hand?

[RandomJC 1,542]

2 minutes ago, Cambeul no Oni said:

Illegal action fails?

or

Yokuni goes to hand and then has no way of coming back into play because Dynasty Personality cannot return to play from hand?

There is nothing that says only conflict characters can be played from hand.

[TheItsyBitsySpider 710]

1 minute ago, Cambeul no Oni said:

Illegal action fails?

or

Yokuni goes to hand and then has no way of coming back into play because Dynasty Personality cannot return to play from hand?

Is there a rule saying you can only play conflict characters from hand? The rules do say you can play characters, but I don't think they specify.

Also is there a rule stating that Dynasty cards cant be put into your hand?

[Cambeul no Oni 105]

1 minute ago, TheItsyBitsySpider said:

Is there a rule saying you can only play conflict characters from hand? The rules do say you can play characters, but I don't think they specify.

Also is there a rule stating that Dynasty cards cant be put into your hand?

 

2 minutes ago, RandomJC said:

There is nothing that says only conflict characters can be played from hand.

I am just guessing on a ruling that they may give, I have no idea if Dynasty cards can into play from hand, I am sure it is not intended.

[TheItsyBitsySpider 710]

Just now, Cambeul no Oni said:

 

 I am sure it is not intended.

Me too, but I cant wait to see someone try to pull this off at Gencon!

[RandomJC 1,542]

1 minute ago, Cambeul no Oni said:

 

I am just guessing on a ruling that they may give, I have no idea if Dynasty cards can into play from hand, I am sure it is not intended.

Oh it's probably illegal as all ****, but nothing so far says it is.

[Shu2jack 610]

Just now, Cambeul no Oni said:

 

I am just guessing on a ruling that they may give, I have no idea if Dynasty cards can into play from hand, I am sure it is not intended.

I'm not sure how much of an issue it will be. Yokuni costs 5 fate? Is a Dragon player really going to keep 5 fate into the Conflict phases? He could, but he will probably be lacking characters from the Dynasty plays and your opponent knows what that 5 fate is probably for.

[RandomJC 1,542]

Just now, Shu2jack said:

I'm not sure how much of an issue it will be. Yokuni costs 5 fate? Is a Dragon player really going to keep 5 fate into the Conflict phases? He could, but he will probably be lacking characters from the Dynasty plays and your opponent knows what that 5 fate is probably for.

Only way it works is to bounce Yokuni at end of last turn, and then at dynasty, pass first then play at start of conflict.

[Fumo 156]

It doesn't seem like that big a deal. Yes it's potentially strong being able to bounce and then replay Yokuni, but you're not copying a more directly powerful ability and spending five fate to replay the champ. 

[Daigotsu Steve 402]

47 minutes ago, Wintersong said:

Courtesy of Casanunda 2 hours ago? 

Her mask reminds me of Kachiko.

My bad lol, to tell the truth I was mad excited and just did it =p

[Cambeul no Oni 105]

But also the ruling will set a precedent on future rulings, what if there is a 2 Fate cost personality that will have a similar effect, or maybe the create an Item called the Egg of Pan'ku that somehow gets shuffled into the Dynasty deck?

[RandomJC 1,542]

3 minutes ago, Fumo said:

It doesn't seem like that big a deal. Yes it's potentially strong being able to bounce and then replay Yokuni, but you're not copying a more directly powerful ability and spending five fate to replay the champ. 

It's board state, kind of thing. Able to keep you're champ around longer than you could have, next turn you can replay him with more fate. The real problem comes in how does one deal with the obvious dynasty card in a conflict hand when earth ring is one.

[Ishi Tonu 2,855]

I thought there was something in the rules about a card going to a zone it does not belong gets discarded?

[RandomJC 1,542]

On discord, official confirm. Yokuni pops to hand

Edited August 8, 2017 by RandomJC

[Klawtu 180]

3 minutes ago, RandomJC said:

On discord, official confirm. Yokuni pops to hand

Who confirmed it and can he then be played or is he basically a dead card?

[Kubernes 736]

RAW there's nothing to stop Yokuni from going into your hand. The rules don't really mention dynasty/conflict cards as meaning anything other deck construction and the discard pile.