Stagsquad13 26 Posted January 24, 2020 What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into squads 1 FlyingAnchors reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingAnchors 4,607 Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stagsquad13 said: What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into lists. you take as many copies as possible on generics so the opponent has to take multiple crits /burn focus to shut them off. The longer the opponent waits, the worse it gets for them, as taking a crit late game can be nasty. also at lower initiatives, especially against aces they have to wait until you shoot them, so either they aren’t modifying dice to hold onto a focus to shut PT off, or they are eating a crit, or letting you keep it. still hard to say what the correct number is to be successful. 4 RStan, impspy, Hoarder of Garlic Bread and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClassicalMoser 4,018 Posted January 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Stagsquad13 said: What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into squads Starkiller Base Pilot (58) General Hux (6) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Total: 200 View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=First Order&d=v8ZsZ200Z288XWW180WWWWWY267X319W186WY267X319W186WY267X319W186WY267X319W186W&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs= Coordinate them all a red lock, then they can still focus. Sloop or K-turn, they can still focus. Double mods for days. If they want to flip that card they have to volunteer extra damage on themselves. Hux is kind of silly in this list, but more seriously: Major Vonreg (57) Daredevil (2) Pattern Analyzer (5) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Omega Squadron Ace (28) Proud Tradition (2) Advanced Optics (4) Total: 200 View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=First Order&d=v8ZsZ200Z381X117W206WWY267X319W186WY267X319W186WY267X319W186WY267X319W186W&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs= That's a lot of positional flexibility while retaining your offensive mods. 2 reqent and FlyingAnchors reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reqent 430 Posted January 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, Stagsquad13 said: What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into squads So it's great on holo and muse because they can easily mitigate it. For generics it opens up some options once the xi is released you can use huffy for target locks and still focus for fully modified shots for sf's with ordinance. It isn't bad on generics because even if your opponent flips it you still have other options Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theBitterFig 11,640 Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Stagsquad13 said: What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into squads Basically this. Budget Pattern Analyzer is solid. 1 ClassicalMoser reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jagsba 3,446 Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, theBitterFig said: Basically this. Budget Pattern Analyzer is solid. not only budget pattern analyzer, but you can do a white move after the sloop and still focus, it lets you ignore debris, and it lets your opponent make the mistake of token spending or taking a crit to make your ship with hard 2 blues take red focus actions. 7 2 impspy, gennataos, Biophysical and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theBitterFig 11,640 Posted January 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, jagsba said: it lets your opponent make the mistake of token spending or taking a crit to make your ship with hard 2 blues take red focus actions. Like, it's Juke or Crack Shot, if your opponent wants it to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenDragoon 9,576 Posted January 24, 2020 I have a small extended event on Sunday... I know that some people bring their HS list, and on one hand I would love to. But on the other hand is this: Darth Vader (67),Passive Sensors (3), Afterburners (6) Soontir Fel (53) “Whisper” (57),Passive Sensors (3),Fifth Brother (11)Total: 200, View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0 lol 2 RStan and gennataos reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuz05 3,567 Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Good old Perceptive Copilot eh? Glad I'm bringing 2 of them You guys are making me want to switch one of my Sprays to Koshka. Edited January 24, 2020 by Cuz05 1 1 Kleeg005 and ClassicalMoser reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucknife 1,801 Posted January 24, 2020 6 hours ago, impspy said: Am I really gonna have to pick up another /ba just so I can have 4 copies of Proud Trad? I mean...there's always Epic. Pick up 6. 1 impspy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucknife 1,801 Posted January 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Stagsquad13 said: What am I missing on proud tradition? Is it like a budget pattern analyser for generic FOs? I’m sort of struggling to see how it would fit into squads It's all about cheap advantages and head-game control. Basically a lose-lose for your opponent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boom Owl 13,254 Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) LaQuintA or FOcho? or Edited January 24, 2020 by Boom Owl 8 3 theBitterFig, gennataos, FlyingAnchors and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenDragoon 9,576 Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Boom Owl said: LaQuintA I approve this message. 1 Blail Blerg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svelok 6,487 Posted January 24, 2020 man sure looks like extended's meta is still just triple aces with purple who could have foreseen this? 2 1 4 Flurpy, RStan, impspy and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ablazoned 1,095 Posted January 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, svelok said: man sure looks like extended's meta is still just triple aces with purple who could have foreseen this? Still too early to say. Most x-wing players are either bad at list building or cowards, so it'll take a while to see real change. 1 Smikies02 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theBitterFig 11,640 Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, svelok said: man sure looks like extended's meta is still just triple aces with purple who could have foreseen this? Not sure it rises to the level of a problem, but the biggest weakness of the last points update was that it was rather timid with most stuff which was Extended-only. The Hyperspace changes were, IMHO, pretty exciting. But most stuff which didn't make the transition to Hyperspace seems like... it mostly got ignored. Can kicked down the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucknife 1,801 Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Ablazoned said: Most x-wing players are either bad at list building or cowards, so it'll take a while to see real change. Almost every time I'm on here, I think, "How do these people know me so well?!? It's uncanny..." 3 1 impspy, ClassicalMoser, Ablazoned and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boom Owl 13,254 Posted January 25, 2020 Also please vote: https://strawpoll.com/sz9s1z74 2 jagsba and Bucknife reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenDragoon 9,576 Posted January 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Boom Owl said: Also please vote: https://strawpoll.com/sz9s1z74 I don't know who wanted what solution (I have my guess). But **** I would be frustrated if I had argued against BCP before my big event Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tbetts94 2,401 Posted January 25, 2020 TTT is the correct choice. Not sure why BCP is even considered still after Atlanta and Seattle. Cryodex is solid too if you’re worried about the internet connection. 1 impspy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biophysical 15,776 Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tbetts94 said: TTT is the correct choice. Not sure why BCP is even considered still after Atlanta and Seattle. Cryodex is solid too if you’re worried about the internet connection. What I keep hearing is that BCP is a sponsor of LVO, so there wasn't a choice. Don't know if it's true, but if previous failures didn't convince people, this one should. Edited January 25, 2020 by Biophysical Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tbetts94 2,401 Posted January 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Biophysical said: What I keep hearing is that BCP is a sponsor of LVO, so there wasn't a choice. Don't know if it's true, but if previous failures didn't convince people, this one should. Legion used TTT, so I don’t think that’s entirely true. 1 Brunas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ablazoned 1,095 Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Biophysical said: What I keep hearing is that BCP is a sponsor of LVO, so there wasn't a choice. Don't know if it's true, but if previous failures didn't convince people, this one should. I'm unironically surprised there were issue yesterday. I figured Dee has been hard on their case the last few months about making sure it goes smooth? 1 Brunas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boom Owl 13,254 Posted January 25, 2020 So looking at LVO Day 1 data.... Just want to remind everyone that Hyperspace ban lists do not apply to Extended tournaments. 3 Brunas, jagsba and FlyingAnchors reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenDragoon 9,576 Posted January 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Boom Owl said: So looking at LVO Day 1 data.... Just want to remind everyone that Hyperspace ban lists do not apply to Extended tournaments. With the usual note that factions do not equal list styles or playstyles: 5 resistance players made cut from day 1, and allegedly only 10 started. That would be an interesting cut rate. top32 had 8 imperial, 7 scum, 5 resistance, 4 FO, 4 seps, 2 republic, 2 rebel. Particularly interesting is that people try and succeed with scum. 1 Brunas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites