[MAFIA] Crisis aboard the ISD Morpheus - FINISHED

[Bike Stunts 163]

Oh you know, just the usual witchhunt stuff. Do you have any ideas on who could possibly be the next scum?

[PodRacer 1,077]

nope not really, but some others around here seem to have a very good read on things.

Ninjas death to me suggests we are dealing with someone who knows the meta

[PodRacer 1,077]

like @ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular

[PodRacer 1,077]

was it just me or did that night go on Forever?

[Truthiness 5,696]

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait...Toad was actually Scum?! HA! Man, that made my life so much easier. Here I was thinking the good Admiral was a legitimate Admiral and I would need to hardcore bluff a counter claim. Nope. Eeeeexcellent.

So what the hell is crazy Truthiness rambling on about? Well, I have literally already won the game, so I'm gonna put my cards on the table because I think it's funny. I'm a third party lyncher. My only goal for the game was to get Admiral Kon hanged during the day. Thank you all for making that so easy. As a token of my gratitude, I'll use my particular set of skills for the good of the town.

Now some of you may be thinking "hey let's get this guy!" Sure, go ahead. I'll jettison the escape pod and be happy with my win. But do you really want to use your day kill on someone that's not a threat to the town? And to the Scum, do you really want to waste a night kill on a non-townie (although if you got the town to waste their votes on me, I applaud the genius manuever)? My swing vote will not exactly be inhibited by any timid desire to avoid killing a townie.

I will now hear your pleas for aid. Let's just have some fun with this!

[Visovics 1,675]

3 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

was it just me or did that night go on Forever?

24 hours, I was asleep as last actions came in

[PodRacer 1,077]

1 minute ago, Visovics said:

24 hours, I was asleep as last actions came in

Il repeat my opening question @JJs Juggernaut

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

15 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

like @ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular

Thanks for the compliment (if that's what it was)! I would not see myself as having too great a grasp of the meta, as evidenced by my near constant death, whether I'm Mafia, Vanilla Town, Doc, or whatever. Out of all these games, I only lived to the end of two, and in one I cast the losing vote, in the other I cast the winning vote, ironically for the same person, Visovics. I basically stumble through my games. I may have made that impression upon you because of my 'knowledge' of the issue concerning day one lynches. Allow me to disillusion you: nearly everything I said was a rehash of the arguments that occupied most of the discussion day 1 of Game 2, and part of Game 3*. So it was hard to not know of it. However I usually mess up meta in most other cases. For example, one time as a mafioso I joke voted an experienced player, and when called out for it I unvoted to show my insincerity. When I say joke voted, I mean literally: I was being sarcastic. In order to prove this, I unvoted. They then lynched me, because apparently unvoting to prove sarcasm is a scum tell. . . the last game, as doc, when Gink claimed doc I said I knew he was lying, but didn't counter-claim, hoping to keep my ID secret. I protected somebody else night 1 and was thus killed, because I didn't consider that the only person who could have his convictions reinforced by a doc claim is the doc. So please, don't go looking to me for guidance or whatever, there are very few things I actually know about good playing in this game.

*that's not to say I wasn't sincere. Merely that the arguments that swayed me (I too was partially on Truthi's side that game) were the ones I used.

@Truthiness, why won't you be discerning in your votes? That does make you a bit of a wild card. If you only vote on a whim, then how can we be sure you will take claims, pleas, or other arguments into consideration? My point is: as you have graciously given your services to us, why not go the full length and act as if you were a normal townie (thanks, though, for not deciding to side with the scum)?

[PodRacer 1,077]

@Truthiness

 

[Truthiness 5,696]

@PodRacer

[Truthiness 5,696]

@ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular in all seriousness, I will be acting in my usual townie methodology, just with a little...flair...

So let's get to it. I'm not sure why they went after Ninja. Frankly, as the only one to offer any kind of defense of Toad (he called him "too obvious" of a target), he was going to be the one I put the screws to first. On top of that, he was not in on the vote against Toad, so why narrow that pool further? 

My thoughts at this point is we likely have two Scum left. I think one was probably in on the vote and the other was likely not. Since Scum do not have day talk, I'm not assigning any merit to the length of the night. Plus, it's easily enough to manipulate the length of the night to coincide with someone's normal availability. 

Let's start with the obvious suspects. Again, i have no idea why they would kill Ninja of all people. There were only three people on the outside of that vote (besides Toad), and they just killed one of them. I'm included to believe they over thought it, so I'm sticking to the obvious avenue of interrogation at this point. So let's have at it.

@JJs Juggernaut time to chime in with your defense.

@PodRacer Nice try deflecting to JJ over the length of the night. Explain yourself.

[Truthiness 5,696]

2 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

@ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular in all seriousness, I will be acting in my usual townie methodology, just with a little...flair...

So let's get to it. I'm not sure why they went after Ninja. Frankly, as the only one to offer any kind of defense of Toad (he called him "too obvious" of a target), he was going to be the one I put the screws to first. On top of that, he was not in on the vote against Toad, so why narrow that pool further? 

My thoughts at this point is we likely have two Scum left. I think one was probably in on the vote and the other was likely not. Since Scum do not have day talk, I'm not assigning any merit to the length of the night. Plus, it's easy enough to manipulate the length of the night to coincide with someone's normal availability. 

Let's start with the obvious suspects. Again, i have no idea why they would kill Ninja of all people. There were only three people on the outside of that vote (besides Toad), and they just killed one of them. I'm inclined to believe they over thought it, so I'm sticking to the obvious avenue of interrogation at this point. So let's have at it.

@JJs Juggernaut time to chime in with your defense.

@PodRacer Nice try deflecting to JJ over the length of the night. Explain yourself.

Fixed.

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

7 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

@ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular in all seriousness, I will be acting in my usual townie methodology, just with a little...flair...

Good to read! That gives me a bit more peace of mind.

[Bike Stunts 163]

I think it's very likely that one of the non-voters is scum, but I don't think both of them are. So far, as I said earlier, the vague playstyle that PodRacer has adapted makes him seem real fishy, like he's trying to obscure any motive he could have. I'm going to hold off on a vote until JJ replies next though, because he's the other prime suspect.

If I'm right, and assuming there are two scum left, then at least one scum player did get in on the vote on Toad, because it would be really strange that both JJ and PodRacer, if they were both scum, would both non-vote with no communication between them.  Not sure on who that could be, but Truthiness is possibly absolved, unless he's making a seriously crazy roleclaim gambit.

[PodRacer 1,077]

Nice try deflecting to JJ over the length of the night. Explain yourself.

Well at first i had thought that the night had taken so long due to the time to register the kill, a player who would be say returning from work late maybe could be the reason for that.

Its more likely that realising how screwed the scum are after loosing a big player, they would use all the time available to concuct a silly long winded story.

like yours.

 

[Truthiness 5,696]

6 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Nice try deflecting to JJ over the length of the night. Explain yourself.

Well at first i had thought that the night had taken so long due to the time to register the kill, a player who would be say returning from work late maybe could be the reason for that.

Its more likely that realising how screwed the scum are after loosing a big player, they would use all the time available to concuct a silly long winded story.

like yours.

 

Hahahaha. The Scum aren't screwed. Not even close. Ninja won the last game in this position, and he did it by turning on his buddy early on. No, I have no need for somehow that ridiculously convoluted. The only reason for outing myself like this is it's the truth and I want to have some fun.

I dislike your tone random citizen. You should be bowing to the incredibly handsome criminal genius and master of all villainy. I control your destiny. Still, I applaud your feeble attempts to cast suspicion elsewhere. But do you know what the difference is between a villian and a supervillain?

##vote Podracer

[PodRacer 1,077]

Explain your role to a noob one more time @Truthiness, for clarity?

[Truthiness 5,696]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lyncher

[PodRacer 1,077]

wheres morgan freeman when you need him?

[PodRacer 1,077]

Theres only one man who can sort this out @Madaghmire

[ImperialCaptain2017 230]

I'm back, and I'm still alive. Yay!

OK, so...we got Toad. Great. Now what?

3 hours ago, ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Thanks for the compliment (if that's what it was)! I would not see myself as having too great a grasp of the meta, as evidenced by my near constant death, whether I'm Mafia, Vanilla Town, Doc, or whatever. Out of all these games, I only lived to the end of two, and in one I cast the losing vote, in the other I cast the winning vote, ironically for the same person, Visovics. I basically stumble through my games. I may have made that impression upon you because of my 'knowledge' of the issue concerning day one lynches. Allow me to disillusion you: nearly everything I said was a rehash of the arguments that occupied most of the discussion day 1 of Game 2, and part of Game 3*. So it was hard to not know of it. However I usually mess up meta in most other cases. For example, one time as a mafioso I joke voted an experienced player, and when called out for it I unvoted to show my insincerity. When I say joke voted, I mean literally: I was being sarcastic. In order to prove this, I unvoted. They then lynched me, because apparently unvoting to prove sarcasm is a scum tell. . . the last game, as doc, when Gink claimed doc I said I knew he was lying, but didn't counter-claim, hoping to keep my ID secret. I protected somebody else night 1 and was thus killed, because I didn't consider that the only person who could have his convictions reinforced by a doc claim is the doc. So please, don't go looking to me for guidance or whatever, there are very few things I actually know about good playing in this game.

*that's not to say I wasn't sincere. Merely that the arguments that swayed me (I too was partially on Truthi's side that game) were the ones I used.

@Truthiness, why won't you be discerning in your votes? That does make you a bit of a wild card. If you only vote on a whim, then how can we be sure you will take claims, pleas, or other arguments into consideration? My point is: as you have graciously given your services to us, why not go the full length and act as if you were a normal townie (thanks, though, for not deciding to side with the scum)?

So this long and moving speech is setting off a few alarm bells for me. ForceGhost had been rather quiet for a while, then he started following the "lynch Toad" group when he saw the way the wind was blowing.

1 hour ago, Truthiness said:

My thoughts at this point is we likely have two Scum left. I think one was probably in on the vote and the other was likely not.

I figure ForceGhost was the one "in on the vote" to save his own neck from suspicion.

[PodRacer 1,077]

8 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

I'm back, and I'm still alive. Yay

welcome back =) such a great feeling huh??!!

[PodRacer 1,077]

did anyone else hear @Caldias snoring last night?

[Madaghmire 7,274]

I was really not expecting to see Ninja die there. 

Truth being a third party lycncher also completely torps some of my theories from day one. Just woke up so ima need a minute to reorganize. 

I will say though, if we had 10 people at jump, and and Truth is third party self aligned...theres probably only one scum left. Because otherwise there were 6 town to 4 non-town...and that could end very fast. Plus one of the scum is a godfather? How could that balance out?

Also, the inclusion of a godfather likely means we have a cop somewhere. 

Ima take a shower now, and then I'll come back with my thoughts on Pod, who has exponentially increased his post count, and Impcaptain who just posited a super bizarre theory about slippy nippy.

[PodRacer 1,077]

29 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lyncher

emphasis on Your, & Clarity