FTS Gecko 24,135 Posted August 28, 2017 5 hours ago, ImNtDead said: So what was the wight waiting for when the Hound opened the box? I mean was he stuck in some way or possibly confused by how much warmer and brighter things had gotten? Considering how much noise it was making on the ship, and how little it was making in the box, I'm sure the intent was for audience to wonder if there was just going to be a bundle of rags and bones in there. Was surprised how little actually happened, and how low the body count was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Jo 4,808 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Pretty good finale. After the warp speed last couple episodes, this slower paced, almost plodding episode was a nice change. A bunch did happen though. I'm glad Petyr got played as turning Sansa and Arya against each other wouldn't have made much sense. He did go out like a *****, which was sort of disappointing. So Jon's real name is Edward Targaryen? Did I hear that right? I take it Tormund and Beric were on the one section of the wall that didn't collapse, but they are kind of stuck up there. and now the wait begins... Edited August 28, 2017 by Jo Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HaranHaste 137 Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jo Jo said: A bunch did happen though. I'm glad Petyr got played as turning Sansa and Arya against each other wouldn't have made much sense. He did go out like a *****, which was sort of disappointing. So Jon's real name is Edward Targaryen? Did I hear that right? I take it Tormund and Beric were on the one section of the wall that didn't collapse, but they are kind of stuck up there. yeah, Petyr was a little cry baby when he got put on the spot with what he was doing. He was so cocky up to that moment then the crap came down on him. I would say Sansa was talking to Bran behind the scenes and was waiting to see what Petyr's next play was going to be then turn on him when he tried to pit her against Arya. Sansa was too smart to think that Arya wanted to be lady of Winterfell. Jon's name is "Aegon", which was a dumb move because Rhaegar already had a son with Elia Martel named Aegon. Lyanna could have named him Rhaegar after his father, but naming him Aegon in the show aligns with the dragons and unification theme. Tormund and Beric ran along the top of the wall instead of down, so they are stuck until they go West enough to get to another castle to climb down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNtDead 24 Posted August 28, 2017 The fake Sansa, Arya conflict felt kinda pathetic to me. I think they could have done more to try and convince us that Sansa and Arya might turn on eachother; but I loved its conclusion Baelish going out like that is exactly how I imagined someone like himself going out. I know a lot of people liked him; but I did not so I am very happy to see him finally gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlodVargarna 4,041 Posted August 28, 2017 My only disappointment with the Sansa Little Finger arc, was that she should have been the one to lop off his head. As the Lady of Winterfell, her duty was to carry out the death sentence. The series started with Ned explaining why it was the lord's duty to carry out justice. It would have been much cooler if Sansa had fully assumed the mantle of power and done there deed herself. That said, it was a very satisfying scene. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNtDead 24 Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said: My only disappointment with the Sansa Little Finger arc, was that she should have been the one to lop off his head. As the Lady of Winterfell, her duty was to carry out the death sentence. The series started with Ned explaining why it was the lord's duty to carry out justice. It would have been much cooler if Sansa had fully assumed the mantle of power and done there deed herself. That said, it was a very satisfying scene. Pretty sure Ned only teached his sons this lesson. As Sansa had said he tried to protect his girls and didn't want them to see how dirty the world really was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlodVargarna 4,041 Posted August 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, ImNtDead said: Pretty sure Ned only teached his sons this lesson. As Sansa had said he tried to protect his girls and didn't want them to see how dirty the world really was. All the more reason she should have done it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 8,726 Posted August 28, 2017 Tormund and Beric are probably trucking it West to the next castle with an intact step/ladder system. Probably Castle Black. I would bet a lot that season 8 starts with them arriving and telling Edd what happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 24,135 Posted August 28, 2017 Yeah, I don't think Beric or Tormund would get a blink-and-you'll-miss-it or off screen death t this point, not after surviving the raid last week. As for Baelish.. well, I was a little underwhelmed. I knew it would all catch up to him in the end, but I was expecting a bit more than that. He was thoroughly clowned, and I was hoping for a better "gotcha" moment for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 I don't know. I think it was a perfect way for him to go. Snivvling on the floor and getting his throat slashed mid-sentence as he tries to weasel his way out of it. 2 ImNtDead and TasteTheRainbow reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 8,726 Posted August 28, 2017 I liked this one because it was just Bran and Sansa going "no, you're awful, time to die". It was simple. You don't have to be fancy when you have the 3-eyed raven on your side. 1 Jo Jo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 8,726 Posted August 28, 2017 So Jaime has left Lannister power behind in both the books and the show now. That's interesting. Do we still think he's the one to choke out Cersei? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Jo 4,808 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) So where the **** is Jaime going to go? North? Is he going to try and recruit some of the Lannister armies to his side? Yeah, I think Jaime will ultimately kill Cersei. That or Arya. Of course I could also envision a scenario where Cersei escapes Kings Landing somehow. You know sequel series and all. Edited August 28, 2017 by Jo Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 Maybe not. One theory I heard that might have credence now is that she dies in childbirth. Make the baby be a dwarf for best irony. 1 Pooleman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNtDead 24 Posted August 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said: Tormund and Beric are probably trucking it West to the next castle with an intact step/ladder system. Probably Castle Black. I would bet a lot that season 8 starts with them arriving and telling Edd what happened. Yeah I hope it starts that way, followed by a mass retreat to Winterfell. Of course a lot of season 8 will also depend on the movements of the Night King and his over all strategy 1 minute ago, Jo Jo said: So where the **** is Jaime going to go? North? Is he going to try and recruit some of the Lannister armies to his side? I sure do hope so, plus I think the bulk of the Lannister forces would rather fight for Jaime and not Cersei. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said: Yeah, I don't think Beric or Tormund would get a blink-and-you'll-miss-it or off screen death t this point, not after surviving the raid last week. As for Baelish.. well, I was a little underwhelmed. I knew it would all catch up to him in the end, but I was expecting a bit more than that. He was thoroughly clowned, and I was hoping for a better "gotcha" moment for him. I was certain it would be revealed that Baelish was also a "faceless" man, that's how he was able to sneak around and set up Arya. But I am glad that he is dead. It would have made me sad to see Sansa and Arya at odds after all that the Starks have been through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said: So Jaime has left Lannister power behind in both the books and the show now. That's interesting. Do we still think he's the one to choke out Cersei? I think it will be revealed that the baby isn't his and he will run his sword through the back of another occupier of The Iron Throne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 I highly doubt he isn't the father. Who else could it possibly be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, BadMotivator said: Maybe not. One theory I heard that might have credence now is that she dies in childbirth. Make the baby be a dwarf for best irony. I don't think she will ever get to child birth. Remember the fortune telling that she met as a tween that told her about the death of her three children? A fourth child was not mentioned, so I don't think she will ever have a 4th child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, BadMotivator said: I highly doubt he isn't the father. Who else could it possibly be? Euron Greyjoy. We know that she has no issue with being unfaithful (she was banging her nephew when Jamie was in captivity). I doubt that Euron would be very loyal without some assurances that he would get what he wants in the end. Even if Cersei has no intention of marrying him after the war, I'm sure she would have no issue banging him to keep him in line, and the competition would potentially keep Jamie in line as well. Edited August 28, 2017 by Pooleman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Pooleman said: I don't think she will ever get to child birth. Remember the fortune telling that she met as a tween that told her about the death of her three children? A fourth child was not mentioned, so I don't think she will ever have a 4th child. Remember she did have a child that was actually Robert Barathion's. She poisoned him when he was only a few days old. 2 Tbetts94 and HaranHaste reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Pooleman said: Euron Greyjoy. We know that she has no issue with being unfaithful (she was banging her nephew when Jamie was in captivity). Wait what? Who are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, BadMotivator said: Remember she did have a child that was actually Robert Barathion's. She poisoned him when he was only a few days old. I do not remember this. When was it referenced? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMotivator 1,263 Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Pooleman said: I emember this. When was i t referenced? Season one. She tells a sob storuy to i believe Ned about her first boy being sickly and dying. She references his black hair. 1 TasteTheRainbow reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pooleman 963 Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, BadMotivator said: Wait what? Who are you talking about? The names are difficult to spell and keep straight. The Greyjoy who is currently sailing to Esos to ferry the reinforcements to Westeros. The Greyjoy who wants to marry Cersei. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites